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Old 10-10-2011, 10:30 PM   #1
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Anyone checked out the Dean RC8?

Looks like Rusty's new RC8 is finally gonna go into production.
Thoughts? Would you go for fanned or standard?
http://www.deanguitars.com/rustycooley_rc7series.php
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Old 10-10-2011, 10:31 PM   #2
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I know they were both at NAMM, but to my knowledge neither has shipped to dealers.

I know the fanned model is limited to only 25 pieces world wide.

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Old 10-10-2011, 10:35 PM   #3
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I really want to try the fanned one out, hopefully they carry them around here, but I doubt they will
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I know they were both at NAMM, but to my knowledge neither has shipped to dealers.

I know the fanned model is limited to only 25 pieces world wide.
Yea dont think so either. Found this though:
Dean USA Rusty Cooley Signature RC8 Xenocide Fanned Fret
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I know they were both at NAMM, but to my knowledge neither has shipped to dealers.

I know the fanned model is limited to only 25 pieces world wide.
Well ...., I'm screwed.
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Well ...., I'm screwed.
You could be one of the lucky 25. U never know haha
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Yea dont think so either. Found this though:
Dean USA Rusty Cooley Signature RC8 Xenocide Fanned Fret
That price is prohibitively high. I'd rather spend way too much money on an outrageously priced Blackmachine.
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That price is prohibitively high. I'd rather spend way too much money on an outrageously priced Blackmachine.
These aren't going to be cheap, but that is the UK import price, which is a good deal more than what it'll probably go for here in the US.

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Old 10-10-2011, 10:55 PM   #10
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My bud is taking lessons with Rusty and got to try the fanned 8 a week or so ago. He came

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I don't even want to imagine what thats going to cost.
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Old 10-11-2011, 11:20 AM   #13
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It's too bad that the description of the fanned-fret model only gives one scale. Is that 25.5" on the bass side or the treble side?

Not really my style on many levels, but good to see another company expanding the 8-string stable!

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Old 10-11-2011, 11:22 AM   #14
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^^^^^^^ nvm. "High A to Low B" - I'm guessing 25.5" on the bass side.

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Old 10-11-2011, 12:07 PM   #15
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His Conklin had 23.5-25.5" scales I believe, so I'd imagine that's what the Dean has

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Played one at Drumcityguitarland recently.

Only 25 are fanned fret by the way...
And it plays like the RC7, just on an 8 string with different frets haha.
Not too much of a difference, but it's awesome!
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Old 10-11-2011, 04:08 PM   #17
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That price is prohibitively high. I'd rather spend way too much money on an outrageously priced Blackmachine.
The headstock is prohibitively ugly too
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I swear a saw a $2499 street price for the fanned one, doesn't seem all that high to me. Even the $2999 I'm seeing when I search now doesn't seem absurdly high for an instrument like that.

You absolutely cannot get anything made for a high A like that anywhere else without going full custom and spending at least that much money.
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I swear a saw a $2499 street price for the fanned one, doesn't seem all that high to me. Even the $2999 I'm seeing when I search now doesn't seem absurdly high for an instrument like that.

You absolutely cannot get anything made for a high A like that anywhere else without going full custom and spending at least that much money.
Rondo is currently offering a 24-25.5" fan as a $200 option on this round of custom builds, so you could conceivably get an 8 that would handily take a high A for well under half of what Dean is charging, and with much more flexibility on the other specs.

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I don't think 24" will be even close to short enough for A with normal strings, not to mention no Agile I've ever played is anything like a quality USA-made (or Japanese) instrument.

In fact I'm skeptical of 23.5" being short enough really, otherwise I'd probably have one on order

For my own "one of these years I'll buy/build it" custom I was planning on using more like 22" scale for the high A. Something like a 22-26" 8-string for AEADGCEA is what I have in my head. If the RC8 turns out to be capable of the high A then I might try to buy one before putting the time/money into a full custom.
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Old 10-11-2011, 08:00 PM   #21
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I don't think 24" will be even close to short enough for A with normal strings, not to mention no Agile I've ever played is anything like a quality USA-made (or Japanese) instrument.

In fact I'm skeptical of 23.5" being short enough really, otherwise I'd probably have one on order

For my own "one of these years I'll buy/build it" custom I was planning on using more like 22" scale for the high A. Something like a 22-26" 8-string for AEADGCEA is what I have in my head. If the RC8 turns out to be capable of the high A then I might try to buy one before putting the time/money into a full custom.
Everyone will have different preferences for string tension, of course, but I ran some numbers based on my own. My 25.5" 6-string is tuned with D'Addario 11s in standard, which gives 19.6 lbs of tension on the high E. D'Addario's smallest plain string is a .007, which at a 24" scale tuned to A-440 produces 12.5 lbs of tension. That doesn't seem at all unreasonable to me. I don't doubt your experiences with Agile's quality, but plenty of players here seem perfectly satisfied with them based in their own experiences. I would still argue that this is a far more practical option for players interested in a high-A 8-string than the Cooley model, in terms of both price and availability.

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Everyone will have different preferences for string tension, of course, but I ran some numbers based on my own. My 25.5" 6-string is tuned with D'Addario 11s in standard, which gives 19.6 lbs of tension on the high E. D'Addario's smallest plain string is a .007, which at a 24" scale tuned to A-440 produces 12.5 lbs of tension. That doesn't seem at all unreasonable to me. I don't doubt your experiences with Agile's quality, but plenty of players here seem perfectly satisfied with them based in their own experiences. I would still argue that this is a far more practical option for players interested in a high-A 8-string than the Cooley model, in terms of both price and availability.
I was told that the scale is 23.5-27 or something like that?
Not 24...
Maybe I heard wrong!

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I don't think 24" will be even close to short enough for A with normal strings, not to mention no Agile I've ever played is anything like a quality USA-made (or Japanese) instrument.

In fact I'm skeptical of 23.5" being short enough really, otherwise I'd probably have one on order

For my own "one of these years I'll buy/build it" custom I was planning on using more like 22" scale for the high A. Something like a 22-26" 8-string for AEADGCEA is what I have in my head. If the RC8 turns out to be capable of the high A then I might try to buy one before putting the time/money into a full custom.
Have a look; http://www.sevenstring.org/forum/ext...nd-thread.html
My thread in there and a few other things show even 25.5" is possible. 24.75" should be alright. The Dean is plenty short enough. Try it yourself

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I can't even get G to last at 25.5" - been there done that. I even break the octave4plus strings tuned to G on my strat Keep in mind I need to be able to bend up a minor third so I need a scale that can effectively handle a high C. That's why I was thinking more like 22-26" for a fan.
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That thing looks f*cking disgusting!
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