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Old 09-23-2011, 01:13 PM   #1
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What Is Your Biggest Guitarist Habit Pet Peeve?

When people REFUSE to use their pinky.
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Old 09-23-2011, 01:24 PM   #2
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When they have to rearrange their hair like Wayne from Wayne's World every 8 measures... or they sing the notes with their mouth as if that somehow makes any sense... yeah, Steve Vai I'm talking about you... you're ridiculous at guitar but you're such an egomaniacal douche in your videos...
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When they have to rearrange their hair like Wayne from Wayne's World every 8 measures... or they sing the notes with their mouth as if that somehow makes any sense... yeah, Steve Vai I'm talking about you... you're ridiculous at guitar but you're such an egomaniacal douche in your videos...
Hahahahahahaha. Absolutely agree.
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Old 09-23-2011, 01:37 PM   #4
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When they have to rearrange their hair like Wayne from Wayne's World every 8 measures... or they sing the notes with their mouth as if that somehow makes any sense... yeah, Steve Vai I'm talking about you... you're ridiculous at guitar but you're such an egomaniacal douche in your videos...
Vai would call that "stage presence" I'm sure...

I'm not sure there's anything that really bothers me about a guitar player except maybe when they just don't seem to look like they're as in to their music as they want you to be.

For example... I thought John Petrucci on that G3 video just looked "boring" on stage and even though the songs he was playing were AWESOME, I just found it slightly less enjoyable with him looking so boring up on stage. I could see the gears turning in his head too much. The flashier people like Vai "seem" to just let it flow a little more than what I saw from Trooch on that particular video and that's the only reason I prefer watching Vai perform to Trooch.

That wasn't to argue your post in anyway... I was just using the two guitarists as an example since Vai had already been thrown out there.



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Old 09-23-2011, 01:41 PM   #5
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You never hear from them. The next time you see them, it's "Long time no see. We need to jam some time." It would make sense if I sucked at my instruments or sucked as a person, but I know that neither is true! LOL.

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Old 09-23-2011, 01:50 PM   #6
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... or they sing the notes with their mouth as if that somehow makes any sense ...
Actually it does. A lot of instructors for a lot of non-wind instruments suggest this exact thing. It helps for ear training. It helps for phrasing. I'm sure one of the folks that teach for a living can chime-in with more details.

I felt kind of stupid self-singing do-de-re-ri, etc. when I first started, but it seems to help with the learning of pieces.

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Actually it does. A lot of instructors for a lot of non-wind instruments suggest this exact thing. It helps for ear training. It helps for phrasing. I'm sure one of the folks that teach for a living can chime-in with more details.

I felt kind of stupid self-singing do-de-re-ri, etc. when I first started, but it seems to help with the learning of pieces.

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No, not at all what I'm talking about. I'm not talking about self-singing... Have you never watched a Steve Vai video??? I'm talking about the douchey over the top my-mouth-is-a-wah pedal oral thing he does.

Plus self-singing doesn't help you on stage.

I googled Vai... 1st 5 images:











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(* PS I love Vai and own 2 JEMs and I'm a douche too...but, c'mon man)
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Plus self-singing doesn't help you on stage.
Vai aside for the moment, I have to disagree with this: just because you can't hear yourself doesn't mean that self-singing isn't helping you with phrasing. If nothing else, it's helping you feel where a wind player would have to take a breath, which forms a natural break between phrases.

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I don't see the problem. I'd rather have that than standing like a statue with a dead serious look. Vai just looks like he's having fun, even if it is, by his own admission, way over the top.

My pet peeve, guitarists that only seem to play the most horribly out of key solos during a song. Main reason I say this is there is one band I keep seeing supporting bands here. Every time they went into a solo, it wasn't so much bad notes, it was the WORST notes. Every time they played a solo I could feel my head shrinking into my chest.

To make it worse, the band they were supporting was Freak Kitchen, so I'm pretty sure the majority of the audience was made up of more advanced musicians. I don't mind if you're not a walking music theory dictionary, but at least have a decent enough ear
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If nothing else, it's helping you feel where a wind player would have to take a breath, which forms a natural break between phrases.
I'll remember that the next time I'm playing "Bad Horsie"...

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I'll remember that the next time I'm playing "Bad Horsie"...

Yeah, okay, maybe not so helpful if you're playing extended shred phrases. I tend to think from a more jazz/funk/minimalist perspective. Different strokes, etc.

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Vai would call that "stage presence" I'm sure...

I'm not sure there's anything that really bothers me about a guitar player except maybe when they just don't seem to look like they're as in to their music as they want you to be.

For example... I thought John Petrucci on that G3 video just looked "boring" on stage and even though the songs he was playing were AWESOME, I just found it slightly less enjoyable with him looking so boring up on stage. I could see the gears turning in his head too much. The flashier people like Vai "seem" to just let it flow a little more than what I saw from Trooch on that particular video and that's the only reason I prefer watching Vai perform to Trooch.

That wasn't to argue your post in anyway... I was just using the two guitarists as an example since Vai had already been thrown out there.
You are ABSOLUTELY correct.
Darren Reid, the 16 year old I constantly talk about who literally blew me away with his playing did not win a guitar contest because of major mentality issues. He just couldn't please the crowd with stage preformance even though he could play the most beautiful music I have ever heard to this day on the guitar.
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Yeah, okay, maybe not so helpful if you're playing extended shred phrases. I tend to think from a more jazz/funk/minimalist perspective. Different strokes, etc.
yeah... that's a different story... but check out some of his videos... Building the Church comes to mind... dude pulls a lot of faces. I can't help but think douche every time I watch him.

I see Paul Gilbert do the same thing and I think he's just into it...

I guess it's all in the interpretation.

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^^^^^ Dear gods, put that Yngwie away! You're scaring the children! =)

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Pentatonic solos, I have got myself in a hitch and a rut and can't get out of it thanks to that damn scale, I have tried to learn more Chromatic stuff and I just can't seem to get it right any more and thanks to too much down picking and chugging my alternate picking is screwed too so playing widdly solo's is off limits to me now, any suggestions on how to get better at this? (those are my bad guitar habits....)


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Pentatonic solos, I have got myself in a hitch and a rut and can't get out of it thanks to that damn scale, I have tried to learn more Chromatic stuff and I just can't seem to get it right any more and thanks to too much down picking and chugging my alternate picking is screwed too so playing widdly solo's is off limits to me now, any suggestions on how to get better at this? (those are my bad guitar habits....)
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Pentatonic solos, I have got myself in a hitch and a rut and can't get out of it thanks to that damn scale, I have tried to learn more Chromatic stuff and I just can't seem to get it right any more and thanks to too much down picking and chugging my alternate picking is screwed too so playing widdly solo's is off limits to me now, any suggestions on how to get better at this? (those are my bad guitar habits....)
Don't hate on the pentatonic. A lot can be done with it.



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Not a lot annoyed me before I joined this damned board .

Probably the most annoying thing to me now is bad live tone. If you can't keep that icepick-sharp, trebly tone under control, get off the stage. It's killing your solos, because it's hard to hear what's going on.

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I'm probably targeting most people in existence, but when people play right-handed with the guitar on their right leg.

I just... don't get how that can be done. It's just so cumbersome to me.

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I'm probably targeting most people in existence, but when people play right-handed with the guitar on their right leg.

I just... don't get how that can be done. It's just so cumbersome to me.
I'm afraid that when I see that, a little part of me gives a smug, dismissive smile, because I play in the classical position.

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No, not at all what I'm talking about. I'm not talking about self-singing... Have you never watched a Steve Vai video??? I'm talking about the douchey over the top my-mouth-is-a-wah pedal oral thing he does.

Plus self-singing doesn't help you on stage.
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Gotta be honest. I do the vai mouth things. in the exact same way. I'll see a vid of me playing and I'll be like... "am I really doing that?!?!". It's totally subconscious imo. But i do believe SSV has some fun with it.

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Gotta be honest. I do the vai mouth things. in the exact same way. I'll see a vid of me playing and I'll be like... "am I really doing that?!?!". It's totally subconscious imo. But i do believe SSV has some fun with it.
To an extent I do too. I won't lie. It kind of helps me get a feel for how long to hold bends and .... sometimes. I think it's because I hear a voice in my head rather than a guitar and I *try* to sing a lot of the time and when I describe what kind of tone I want to Zimbloth I always compare it to singers' voices. So I think it's almost natural [for me] to do it.



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