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Old 09-17-2011, 02:40 PM   #1
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Ibanez tremolos

I see people all the time writing stuff like "I want this and that tremolo back, this trem sucks" etc. But I keep forgetting which ones are good and which ones are not so...

can you school me on which Ibanez trems are usually percieved as good or bad ?
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Old 09-17-2011, 02:52 PM   #2
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The good ones: Edge, Edge Lo-Pro, Edge Pro, Edge Zero, ZR-II.

Decent/Not too bad ones: Edge Zero II & ZR

Bad ones: Edge III, Edge Pro-II, Lo-TRS and Lo-TRS II.

That's my opinion.
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Old 09-17-2011, 03:09 PM   #3
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yep I agree with the poster above
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I've written an article with all the pictures and explanation. I knew someone will ask about it eventually.

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Old 09-18-2011, 06:08 AM   #5
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If the Edge-III is bad I might have to reconsider getting an RG2228
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Old 09-18-2011, 06:17 AM   #6
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If the Edge-III is bad I might have to reconsider getting an RG2228
I'm assuming you're thinking that you're thinking the Edge III on the RG2228, in which case, that's the Edge III FX, which isn't really a trem at all thus doesn't count altogether.
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Old 09-18-2011, 06:36 AM   #7
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Decent/Not too bad ones: Edge Zero II & ZR

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I've heard that the Edge Zero II is really solid. Never heard anything bad about it

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Old 09-18-2011, 07:19 AM   #8
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I've heard that the Edge Zero II is really solid. Never heard anything bad about it
I actually liked it when I tried a RG920 at Sam Ash, it felt so much more quality than the Edge III, which always had a really bad cheap feel in my hands. Me putting it in a category outside of Good Trems may have made me seem like I didn't like it, which isn't the case. I wasn't trying to say it's a bad trem, it's a very good tremolo, but it isn't as good as the higher end tremolos Ibanez offers, in my opinion of course. I did experience some minute going out of tune with it that I wouldn't have experienced with my Edge.
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Old 09-18-2011, 08:04 AM   #9
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I did experience some minute going out of tune with it that I wouldn't have experienced with my Edge.
Strange, this dude on a Swedish guitar forum got one recently and tried it out. He said it was really solid and was going to use it on his next gig. And it worked perfectly. Granted, he doesn't go all Dimebag with it
He usually plays his LACS Ibanezes.

But it's perfectly understandable if it's not as solid as the Prestige trems.

Schecters don't have baseball bat necks.
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Old 09-18-2011, 08:18 AM   #10
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Strange, this dude on a Swedish guitar forum got one recently and tried it out. He said it was really solid and was going to use it on his next gig. And it worked perfectly. Granted, he doesn't go all Dimebag with it
He usually plays his LACS Ibanezes.

But it's perfectly understandable if it's not as solid as the Prestige trems.
Well when I tried it out, I went all Dimebag with it, so that probably was a big factor!

It isn't as solid as Prestige trems, but it is still solid as all hell.
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Old 09-18-2011, 08:34 AM   #11
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I'm assuming you're thinking that you're thinking the Edge III on the RG2228, in which case, that's the Edge III FX, which isn't really a trem at all thus doesn't count altogether.
It's not a trem but it's still an Edge III, so maybe it's still bad. Dunno, I've read many different things about the RG2228, but whatever.
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It's not a trem but it's still an Edge III, so maybe it's still bad. Dunno, I've read many different things about the RG2228, but whatever.
If I'm not wrong, what mainly gives the tunning stability in a floating bridge is the return to the point zero given by the pivot. As the Edge III is a fixed bridge (doesn't move either up or down), this shouldn't be an issue at all. As it is a fixed bridge, you should worry about the tuners and specially the locking nut, as your guitar has one, that'll be the important factor for stability in tunning.

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The Edge Zero II is pretty good in fact one of the best lower end tremolos out there offered by IBANEZ. However, I will still prefer an Original Edge.

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Old 09-19-2011, 12:35 PM   #14
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I beg to differ on the LO-Trs. It is a perfectly functional bridge with good tuning stability. The same Takeuchi made trem is used by Jackson (same trem everyone loves on DK2M), BC Rich, Kramer, and others.

The TRS-II doesn't fare nearly as well and should be avoided.

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Old 09-19-2011, 02:07 PM   #15
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If I had to rate the locking Ibanez bridges in order from best to worst (from a quality perspective) I'd say:

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Edge Lo-Pro and Original Edge (tie)
Edge Pro
Edge Zero
ZR (v2.1)
Lo-TRS
Edge III
Lo-TRS II
Edge Pro II
TRS 201
TRS 101
WORST

I left the Edge Zero II out as it's FAR too new to evaluate. In a year or so when they've actually been put to the test we'll know. Though, based on what I already now, I'd put them between the Edge Zero and ZR on my list.

As far as why some bridges are better received than others it comes down to a few factors 1) quality of materials/build, 2) player's preference, and 3) how old the unit is.

For instance I LOVE the Lo-Pro. It's by far my favorite trem out there. Does that mean that the ZR is ....? No, it just means I really like the Lo-Pro and the guitars it comes on. The fact I've been using them for so long also plays into it.

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Old 09-19-2011, 02:40 PM   #16
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^^ absolutely spot on
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Old 09-19-2011, 06:51 PM   #17
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If I had to rate the locking Ibanez bridges in order from best to worst (from a quality perspective) I'd say:

BEST
Edge Lo-Pro and Original Edge (tie)
Edge Pro
Edge Zero
ZR (v2.1)
Lo-TRS
Edge III
Lo-TRS II
Edge Pro II
TRS 201
TRS 101
WORST

I left the Edge Zero II out as it's FAR too new to evaluate. In a year or so when they've actually been put to the test we'll know. Though, based on what I already now, I'd put them between the Edge Zero and ZR on my list.

As far as why some bridges are better received than others it comes down to a few factors 1) quality of materials/build, 2) player's preference, and 3) how old the unit is.

For instance I LOVE the Lo-Pro. It's by far my favorite trem out there. Does that mean that the ZR is ....? No, it just means I really like the Lo-Pro and the guitars it comes on. The fact I've been using them for so long also plays into it.
Pretty much this. People knock on the Edge III a fair bit, but even as a budget trem, I too rate it higher than all the trems below that on Max's list. That, and I haven't completely decimated mine yet after substantial abuse.

But I do admit that the Edge Zero II is a very good trem and replacing the Edge III on some of the non Prestige models is indeed a good move by Ibanez.

Also a small addition: Locking stud mod Edge Pro upgrades it to Lo Pro/Original Edge status IMO.
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Edge, Lo Pro, and ZR all the way.
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Old 09-19-2011, 11:09 PM   #19
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Worth mentioning is that the only reason I ranked the Edge Pro lower than the Original and Lo-Pro is that it's saddles have significantly more moving parts, thus there's greater potential for things to go wrong. That being said, all the Edge Pros I've used have stood up to abuse wonderfully.

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Old 09-20-2011, 01:04 AM   #20
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Has anyone played a SynchroniZR? I'm really interested in those, as I've always been more into non-locking trems, and I love the idea of a non-locking trem with the ZPS, since the ZR series bridges are my favorite thing from Ibanez.

I have a problem cn this mod ke the eicoli and the infantry cn a blow dies what can make?

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actually my two own and only criteria would be 1) does it stay in tune 2) is it solid.

I'm kind of used to OFR bridges, and the only Ibanez I've had was of very poor quality since its previous owned seemed to have used it for baseball... so thanks for all the input
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Has anyone played a SynchroniZR? I'm really interested in those, as I've always been more into non-locking trems, and I love the idea of a non-locking trem with the ZPS, since the ZR series bridges are my favorite thing from Ibanez.
It seems like a really solid trem, and if its anything like the ZR it's gonna be smooth and sturdy. My understanding is they stay in tune pretty well too.
I wish more places carried SV's because they all seem really nice.
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Old 09-20-2011, 11:09 AM   #23
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im getting my rg2610z this week and it has the edge zero, im debating whether to unblock the trem and see if it can renew my feeling for floating bridges....i had a really bad experience with a schecter damien fr lol


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I replaced the Lo-Pro Edge on my RG560 with a ZR (ZPS included and the Schaller trem arm mod) and never looked back, not that the Lo-Pro Edge sucked or anything (quite the opposite!) but the ZR feels so much smoother and handles the abuse extremely well.

I would replace the Lo-Pro Edge 7 on my K-7 also but don't want to mod that guitar in such an extreme way

I showed Ibanez my RG560 with a ZR, hopefully they will take that into account and release 1 ZR equipped RG, to me, for free,
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I showed Ibanez my RG560 with a ZR, hopefully they will take that into account and release 1 ZR equipped RG, to me, for free,

We can only hope! It'd be nice to have some RG's with em', not to mention more 7's with ZR's!
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