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Old 09-30-2010, 01:19 PM   #1
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Line 6 POD HD Thread

Figured I'd start a new thread instead of tacking this onto the "Line 6's answer to the Axe-Fx?" thread.

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My opinion? Samples sound good, if only single-tracked, without backing tracks, and many of them with goofy processing. The JCM800, in particular, sounds really really authentic. This will most likely be something that we'll have to personally take for a test drive, or wait for someone to make actual, good + music contextual demos of.
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Old 09-30-2010, 01:42 PM   #2
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* Awaits the endless berating of tone without considering how ....ty L6 clips are, and they used a Variax (:ugh):.*

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Old 09-30-2010, 02:04 PM   #3
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Yeah saw it earlier and downloaded all the manuals for it. Was getting really psyched reading up on it... but then I saw that it doesn't have the ability to carry over delay and reverb decay while switching patches. I mean wtf? It has a feature called "Trails" that keeps the decay going when switching the effects off, and even has a cool feature to just shutoff the loop send so external effect tails can decay, but it specifically says it does not work when switching presets. Bummer.

I was thinking of maybe returning the GT-10 and giving this a shot but I hate to lose features.


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Old 09-30-2010, 03:12 PM   #4
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As I expected more clean tone oriented amps than heavy hi-gain, and to think someone claimed that this would be L6's answer to the Axe-FX *shame* The sounds are horrible on their demo's and the videos talk about the 3 different products 2 of which have significantly less than the best. I wouldn't even compare this to POD Farm which imo is great. Line 6 should suggest people to "Spend all your money on a acoustic guitar cause clean airy sounds are all your gonna get with this product". I know not everyone plays metal or heavy driven music ,but seriously the clean low gain to high gain ratio amp sims on this product are like 14-2 . The ENGL sim and maybe the Dual Recto are probably the best they have for metal and shoot for the price of this unit, might as well save up for the Axe.

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Old 09-30-2010, 03:17 PM   #5
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* Awaits the endless berating of tone without considering how ....ty L6 clips are, and they used a Variax (:ugh):.*


I came in here to post that.. it's hard to believe that they think the demos are flattering.

I'd like to try one, but I guess I'm stuck waiting for websites besides the ones in europe to put them up.
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As I expected more clean tone oriented amps than heavy hi-gain, and to think someone claimed that this would be L6's answer to the Axe-FX *shame* The sounds are horrible on their demo's and the videos talk about the 3 different products 2 of which have significantly less than the best. I wouldn't even compare this to POD Farm which imo is great. Line 6 should suggest people to "Spend all your money on a acoustic guitar cause clean airy sounds are all your gonna get with this product". I know not everyone plays metal or heavy driven music ,but seriously the clean low gain to high gain ratio amp sims on this product are like 14-2 . The ENGL sim and maybe the Dual Recto are probably the best they have for metal and shoot for the price of this unit, might as well save up for the Axe.

-1 L6 *shame*

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Huh? 14-2?

If you can't get great high gain sounds out of a JCM800 or Uberschall, you're doing something waaaay wrong. Also, the Route 66, Twin Reverb, DR103, JTM, and even AC-30 will easily do some medium to hard rock tones with ease. Just because an amp's circuit (or in this case a model of it) isn't dripping with gain, doesn't mean they can't get heavy without some boosting and the right cab sim. A lot of the ultra-high gain beasts we use these days are based around the circuit of some of these lower gain amps.

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I'm not actually planning on getting one as I've gone all in-box (giggity)... but if a Line 6 developer is trolling around here: Get your .... together and roll out some real demos of the thing that actually mean something to the average buyer. Ditch the Variax, and get a generic Strat for the clean / bluesy sound, and an L.P. or something similar with hot pups for the heavy/rock sounds. Get someone who knows how to dial the tones in with respect to the style being demoed, get them the context of a mix, and have a little option on the applet for the listener to solo the tones out. This is your flagship product here, guys.
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I'm not actually planning on getting one as I've gone all in-box (giggity)... but if a Line 6 developer is trolling around here: Get your .... together and roll out some real demos of the thing that actually mean something to the average buyer. Ditch the Variax, and get a generic Strat for the clean / bluesy sound, and an L.P. or something similar with hot pups for the heavy/rock sounds. Get someone who knows how to dial the tones in with respect to the style being demoed, get them the context of a mix, and have a little option on the applet for the listener to solo the tones out. This is your flagship product here, guys.

Totally agree man. Makes me want to drive the 10 min from my house to L6 HQ bust in and demo em myself!

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I'm not actually planning on getting one as I've gone all in-box (giggity)... but if a Line 6 developer is trolling around here: Get your .... together and roll out some real demos of the thing that actually mean something to the average buyer. Ditch the Variax, and get a generic Strat for the clean / bluesy sound, and an L.P. or something similar with hot pups for the heavy/rock sounds. Get someone who knows how to dial the tones in with respect to the style being demoed, get them the context of a mix, and have a little option on the applet for the listener to solo the tones out. This is your flagship product here, guys.

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I'm not actually planning on getting one as I've gone all in-box (giggity)... but if a Line 6 developer is trolling around here: Get your .... together and roll out some real demos of the thing that actually mean something to the average buyer. Ditch the Variax, and get a generic Strat for the clean / bluesy sound, and an L.P. or something similar with hot pups for the heavy/rock sounds. Get someone who knows how to dial the tones in with respect to the style being demoed, get them the context of a mix, and have a little option on the applet for the listener to solo the tones out. This is your flagship product here, guys.
It seems like I'm the third person to quote this...

But I quote for truth, let's have some demos that actually represent the genre that they are going for. The demos sounded pretty bad to me, I'd like to hear quality as I am seriously considering getting one...that is if it really turns out to be a "poor man's" Axe-Fx. Otherwise I'll just grab Pod Farm or an X3...

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I wonder if the HD models will ever come to Pod Farm?

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Huh? 14-2?
Well first of all I wanna state that I said "like 14-2" it was a ratio based on my opinion. I also said the ENGL and Recto are the best out of the 16 and that is where I made my 14-2 ratio.


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If you can't get great high gain sounds out of a JCM800 or Uberschall, you're doing something waaaay wrong. Also, the Route 66, Twin Reverb, DR103, JTM, and even AC-30 will easily do some medium to hard rock tones with ease.
Yes I could dial in tone with the JSM800 and or the Uberschall, but I find myself having use EQ a lot more on those specific models than others for what I like to play. I have to do the same thing when I'm actually using those real amps in the studio and not amp sims.

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Just because an amp's circuit (or in this case a model of it) isn't dripping with gain, doesn't mean they can't get heavy without some boosting and the right cab sim. A lot of the ultra-high gain beasts we use these days are based around the circuit of some of these lower gain amps.
I also want to point out that I normally don't need a lot of gain ,but certain amps imo use gain more efficiently than others. I am also aware that a lot of the "ultra-high gain beasts we use these days" are based on old circuits ,but that doesn't mean that the original model that had a influence on others will work for my needs.

Anyways I did my review and made my statement you don't have to agree with me and or understand. I'm aware that me and you don't see eye to eye on many things one of them being the floyd rose tremolo issue. It's all good lets just agree to disagree you made your point I made mine.

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will wait for a rack mounted version + more high gain amps, especially the line 6 big bottom, 5150/6505 amps (if they do them)

I've got a Vetta + floorboard and it is great. Would only move to HD if it was rack mounted, and even then I cant be bothered getting a decent poweramp + rack cases, haha.
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I was flipping through the manuals and I'm surprised at the level of difference between the 400 & 500. They have the same amps & models but apparently, on the 400 you can only run 3 effects at the same time (1 drive, 1 mod & 1 delay). On the 500, there's 8 "fx blocks" that you can basically assign any effect anywhere in the chain.
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Old 09-30-2010, 09:26 PM   #15
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Basically the 300 and 400 are jokes ... i am interested in the 500 though .... very interested
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Yeah.

Call me a fanboy. I can't wait to get my hands on one.
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Might have to switch out my ax3000 for one of these.

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A first review is up Problem: I don't speak any Portuguese, so I don't understand a fing thing.

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Some of the sound demos on the Line 6 page are decent. The Twin sounds like a Twin, the Mesa sounds like a Mesa, the Snozzberries taste like snozzberries, etc.

Most of the audio demos are laughable cheesy crap though. If I hear another demo that is some rehashed rock crap I am going to stab my eyes. I'd still be able to hear it, but I will be distracted by the pain in my eyes.
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I'm not impressed by the sound clips in Line6 page, at all.
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They need to make a bean/rack.
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Hopefully stores put this out so I get to try it, I can't imagine going back to line 6 but if it does what it says it would be a great *I can't afford an axe-fx right now* alternative.
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Just got an e-mail from Line 6 telling me to come try the new Pod at the LA Amp show tomorrow and Sunday... shoot! I dunno if I can make it lol. While this would be cool, the real reason for me to go is to check out the Egnater Armageddon!

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I bought one.

From sweetwater. Hopefully it'll be in stock in the next week or so.

I'll post a review after I've had a little time to spend with it.
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I bought one. ...I'll post a review after I've had a little time to spend with it.
You mean a review after actually having one's hands on it? How can that possibly compare to all the endless speculation on the part of those who have never seen one in person?

Or...

Why waste the time to be well informed, when ignorance is spontaneous?

*laugh*

I look forward to actually hearing from someone who has played it. That's probably just me, though. *laugh*

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