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Old 02-12-2017, 03:14 PM   #5276
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So they've just updated the site with some Banshee models in the SGR budget line and I'm stunned because they look way better than the Banshee Extremes that are going for twice the price.







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Old 02-12-2017, 05:26 PM   #5277
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What makes the Nick Johnston strat different from the regular Traditional models? And man, those Banshees would be cool as 7 strings, nothing quite like a 7 string with a pick guard

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Old 02-12-2017, 07:07 PM   #5278
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What makes the Nick Johnston strat different from the regular Traditional models? And man, those Banshees would be cool as 7 strings, nothing quite like a 7 string with a pick guard
Colour and NJ pups probably neck specs
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Old 02-13-2017, 10:56 AM   #5279
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Colour and NJ pups probably neck specs
Yeah, I think Nick's got much more modern-aligned neck specs, but stuck with the traditional look and pickups with his custom set.

I was lucky enough to play his first USA custom shop traditional at Summer NAMM last year and it felt very close to the suhr classic pro's, but wasn't nearly as vintage feeling
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^Overall quality and sound?
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Old 02-13-2017, 05:07 PM   #5281
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Pretty ridiculous. At least on par with a lot of the top guitars I've played from Suhr, PRS, Tom Anderson, etc. It's like a modern answer to a vintage strat that's been tweaked for dudes who like to play prog/metal
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Old 02-14-2017, 12:37 AM   #5282
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What makes the Nick Johnston strat different from the regular Traditional models? And man, those Banshees would be cool as 7 strings, nothing quite like a 7 string with a pick guard
The Omen Extreme Banshee 7 has a pickguard.
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Old 02-14-2017, 02:33 AM   #5283
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The Omen Extreme Banshee 7 has a pickguard.
It's got a quilted top veneer though, and I've always hated those on Strat lookalikes.

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Old 02-14-2017, 02:46 AM   #5284
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Pretty ridiculous. At least on par with a lot of the top guitars I've played from Suhr, PRS, Tom Anderson, etc. It's like a modern answer to a vintage strat that's been tweaked for dudes who like to play prog/metal
Looks great, maybe not very suited for my style, but glad it's quality stuff!
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Old 02-14-2017, 02:00 PM   #5285
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Nick has a USA model and the diamond one right? Whats the difference in specs.

Was surprised when he went to Schecter, but from everything I've seen of his sig looks awesome. Wonder how it compares to a Suhr Classic Pro
Here's the link to the USA model version
http://www.schecterguitars.com/custo...7-01-04-detail

Then here's the Diamond series version.
http://www.schecterguitars.com/guita...on-trad-detail

Specs are below, so you can figure out what the differences are.

Now, the thing is, the USA one that's new for 2017 is different cosmetically than last year. Last year's model looked identical to the Diamond series version that is new for 2017, just with the USA custom shop touch.

I don't know if they still sell it, but the link I posted to the USA one is the current one for this year.
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Old 02-14-2017, 02:38 PM   #5286
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What makes the Nick Johnston strat different from the regular Traditional models?
I looked at both specs, and here are the main differences. They're very negligible though.

Nick's sig
- Made in Indonesia
- 22 frets
- 14" Radius
- 21mm Thick@1st Fret
- Black Tusq nut
- Schecter locking tuners
- Metal knobs
- Schecter sig pickups

Traditional
- Made in South Korea
- 21 frets
- 12" Radius
- 20mm Thick@1st Fret
- Ivory Tusq nut
- Grover Tuners
- Vintage knobs
- Schecter "Vintage style" pickups


To me Nick's sig is basically a moderately hot rodded version of a California Vintage. If you wanted to add all the things that you wanted to the California Vintage to make it seem like a Nick sig, you'd probably be putting 100 bucks in it anyhow. So I think the pricing is at least fair. They could've easily priced it at a grand just for having his name on it, but they didn't, which earns kudos in my book.

The main advantage I think the Nick sig has is the locking tuners. That comes in handy if you want to use the tremelo system on it. It's also got an extra fret, which might be a bonus to certain people. The pickups are probably the same honestly. I highly doubt there was much thought put into them to make them different than the ones on the Cali. The Radius is a little wider as well, which could be beneficial to lead players like Nick.

On the other hand, the HUGE advantage the Cali has over the Nick sig is that it's made in South Korea. The QC in South Korea is top notch, and you're almost guaranteed to get a quality instrument, whereas if a guitar is made in Indo, then that's where I start to get a little reluctant (Bad experience with an Indo guitar led me to this notion). Then again, if you ordered the nick sig from a place like Sweetwater or DCCL for example, you can have them set it up for you before it ships, and they have their own type of QC to make sure you get the guitar in playable condition. You wouldn't get that anywhere else as far as I know.

If the benefits of the Nick sig don't really appeal to you, then a Cali Vintage is probably the route you should go. It's pretty much 80% the same instrument.
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They do sell the USA NJ's, but it looks like they are mostly custom order. When I placed my order it sounded like it was the 9th one made overall in the first batch.

If you're interested in his previous sig model (atomic silver) I think it'd be a better bet to get the diamond series one and save a ton of money, but if you want the wenge neck/ebony board and his custom shop pickups you'd have to shell out for the atomic green model at this point.

These do seem like they're selling well enough for Schecter to be happy with them so I wouldn't be surprised to see them introduce the green to the diamond series next year

Edit: Excellent point above about Indo/South Korea, but overall I think the quality is going to be satisfactory across the board with the Diamond series
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Old 02-14-2017, 05:29 PM   #5288
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G&L has been making the Tributes in Indonesia for a little while and they are very good. Indonesia is probably like Korea in that they will build a guitar as nice as they are requested to. I plan on getting the NJ, but time will tell.
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Old 02-14-2017, 06:16 PM   #5289
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These do seem like they're selling well enough for Schecter to be happy with them so I wouldn't be surprised to see them introduce the green to the diamond series next year
That's what I'm hoping for. Love the color. Any idea on if the Diamond series has a block heel versus a rounded one?
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That's what I'm hoping for. Love the color. Any idea on if the Diamond series has a block heel versus a rounded one?
Carved/angled block heel.
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Old 02-15-2017, 04:44 AM   #5291
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Old 02-17-2017, 01:03 PM   #5293
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Need this one exactly in same color but with a hipshot bridge, please. PLEASE.
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Old 02-17-2017, 05:32 PM   #5295
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Why oh why do Schecter keep working on all these incredible Banshee protoypes in rad finishes that fill me full of joy and hope only to release the garish 2008 looking nonsense that is the Banshee Extreme series?

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Old 02-17-2017, 06:33 PM   #5296
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That V is sick AF.
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Old 02-17-2017, 06:47 PM   #5297
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You guys have no patience at all
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You guys have no patience at all
I mean, they're not wrong.

Some of the coolest prototypes that Schecter made never made it onto store floors.
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Old 02-18-2017, 02:12 AM   #5299
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Yep, but that's routine for Schecter, it's always been like this, they're just testing the ground for the new series
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Old 02-18-2017, 05:50 AM   #5300
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These strat lookalikes with pickguards really need inline headstocks

The 4+3 really doesn't look right on a superstrat like that.
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