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Unread 08-16-2007, 08:36 AM   #26
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If anyone is interested, I created a simple Excel spreadsheet for determining string tension based upon scale length and string gage. It is located here.
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Unread 08-22-2007, 08:00 PM   #27
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So I got my string set... and I think I miscalculated.

I knew I wanted to drop-tune to A, so I ended up getting a .68 for the 7th string... and it's way too big. It fits in the tuner and the nut, but is oversized for the bridge (ESP LFR). Plus, the jump in size is DRAMATIC. With a .34 5th and .46 6th, the .68 felt like a monster. Under my fingers, it felt out of place, like it didn't match.

The set came with a .59, but I may eventually compromise with a .62 or .64.

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Unread 02-03-2008, 02:27 PM   #28
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how do i figure out my tension on my 1077 (27" scale) tuned to A standard with these gauges

11 -
14 -
21 -
28 -
38 -
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60 -

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Unread 02-03-2008, 02:59 PM   #29
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String Guage and Tension Calculator - Version 0.1.4 - 26 apr 1998
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Unread 02-03-2008, 03:07 PM   #30
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how do i figure out my tension on my 1077 (27" scale) tuned to A standard with these gauges

11 -
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21 -
28 -
38 -
49 -
60 -
That's WILDLY off the mark. Try 9-12-16-24-32-44-60, 10-13-17-26-34-46-62, 10-13.5-26-36-48-64, or 10-14-18-26-36-49-66. Or you can mix and match.

I tune to A standard, and I've always just used Mind Riot's guide as a reference. I know it won't be exactly the same as his calculations are for B, but I've gotten fantastic results from it.
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wow, to me those gauges sound wildly off, lol

i use 10-48+58 for Bstan on my 25.5 7, so i figured if im tuning a step down, to have the right amount of tension, i move two steps up on string gauge, lol

11-49 set seems to work well. i dont like how loose my low A is though, but refuse to use any thicker than a 60, because then it sounds too bassy

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I've been using the Zakk Wylde low set 11-70 and dropping a 30 in for the G string in the middle. Works pretty well, but a more progressive set would be Ernie Ball Skinny/Fat 10-52 + a single 70. This is what I'll order next. Couldn't cobble together anything better at the Guitar Center. This is on a Blackjack (26 1/2" scale.) I was a bass player forever, so the feel of 70 doesn't bother me and I really appreciate the tension; notes on that string are much more consistent with the others than with the .56 that came on the guitar.
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Unread 02-06-2008, 11:37 AM   #33
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yeah i dont like 56s, 58s are much more sonically solid

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I've been using the DR Jeff Healey set (nickel 10-56) plus a GHS 70 for a week now. Significant improvement to playability. Action is more even from string to string and as you go up the neck. Unwound strings sing more than the 11s I was using. The .56 E is noticeably chunkier and I have to angle the pick more to avoid catching on it. But the axe (Blackjack) just feels happier so its more fun to play.

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You use a .010 - .056 set with a .070 tuned to B? Those are some pretty manly strings.
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Unread 03-06-2008, 09:23 AM   #36
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I played bass for 17 years; I like fatter low stuff. And I didn't care about playing fast until last week. Actually what got me started was this thread 6 months ago; learning about consistent string tension got me thinking. Anyway, the guitar feels more like a single instrument now rather than separate high-end/low-end beasts.
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Unread 05-26-2008, 10:08 PM   #37
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Wow, Mind Riot, thanks so much for pointing this out! For quite some time now
I've been annoyed at the floppiness of the low E-string on my six. I always had
to tune a tiny bit flat, so that when it went sharp from digging in, it wouldn't be
out of tune, but that caused all kinds of intonation issues ARGH, it was driving me nuts

Time came to change the strings again, so I bought a .49 and a regular 10-46 set.
Put the 49 on, and WHAM, instant sex Very beefy tight tone, and not to mention
doesn't flop around. I love it!

Thanks again, and I highly recommend people to try this out
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Unread 06-01-2008, 02:26 PM   #38
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thanks MR for posting this. seen it a while back and showed it to a friend that though it was dumb but he to say the least was an idiot and didnt even get it, but then again he dont play 7s so he hasnt had the fbs (flabby b syndrom). was goin to try this a while back but never got around to it. but just ordered a few sets of 10's for a 6er and a few .064 singles for the b, once i get them in ill post back on how they worked out.
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Schecter C7

Hi,

i wonder which set would be good for a Bb tuning on a 26,5" Schecter C7.

Atm i have a D'Addario EXL120-7 set tuned to B.

Any of you have an idea?

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D'Addario EXL120-7 - Your set @ 25.5" tuned to B according to D'Addario

Diameter Tension
Item# Note inches mm lbs kg
PL009 E 0.009 0.23 13.1 5.94
PL011 B 0.011 0.28 11.0 4.99
PL016 G 0.016 0.41 14.7 6.67
NW024 D 0.024 0.61 15.8 7.17
NW032 A 0.032 0.81 15.8 7.17
NW042 E 0.042 1.07 14.8 6.71
NW054 B 0.054 1.37 13.8 6.26


To get the tensions ideal it is best to use a completely custom set

@ 25.5" Scale - A good set for Bb @ 25.5" IMO maintaining similar tensions.
.0095p @ 13.0 lbs.
.013p @ 13.7 lbs.
.018w @ 14.3 lbs. or .017p @ 14.7
.024w @ 14.0 lbs.
.034w @ 15.7 lbs.
.046w @ 15.6 lbs.
.060w @ 15.2 lbs.


Now @ 26.5" Scale
.0095p @ 14.1 lbs
.013p @ 14.8 lbs
.018w @ 15.5 lbs or 17p @ 15.9
.024w @ 15.2 lbs
.034w @ 16.9 lbs.
.046w @ 16.8 lbs.
.060w @ 16.4 lbs.



Alternatively you could use a 10-46 set and add a 60 or an EXL110-7 Regular Light 7-String 10-59

--- Hope this helps ^^ ---

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You can also try my free software which uses D'Addario's string tensions and calculates the same tension for different tunings

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Very cool! thanks humanoid

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i didnt work for me
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Gotta have Microsoft Visual C++ 2005 Redistributable Package installed.
Can be downloaded from:
Download details: Visual C++ 2005 Redistributable Package (x86)

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Gotta have Microsoft Visual C++ 2005 Redistributable Package installed.
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i instal that and still have the same problem:

initialization error

to run this application, you first must install one of the following version of the .net framework:

v2.0.50727

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i instal that and still have the same problem:

initialization error

to run this application, you first must install one of the following version of the .net framework:

v2.0.50727

Well.. then install the .NET Framework? Lots of software nowadays use these libraries, so it's a good deal

Download details: .NET Framework Version 2.0 Redistributable Package (x86)

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A very good post. I used the excel sheet to calculate some different sets for my guitars with different tunings. Since my local shop doesn't have a ready supply of D'Addario singles, I opted for Ernie Balls. I calculated my sets from the perspective of progressive tension. Very good results, although I don't like the sound of Ernies at all. Since this method yielded very good results I might try a set of Elixirs next time, though I'll have to order the singles from the net. Thanks a lot to the thread starter!
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very confused about what set I should use for my 80 tuned down C-F down an octave
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