[Tech] Nomad 45 2x12 videos

Leon · 03-25-2006, 07:12 PM

i decided to try and record something, since Karl and some others were curious about my sound. my mic is a PC mic ^ ^ ^, so i just did some videos, which don't sound much worse than making mp3s (given my equipment), except that the files are bigger. and the vids were more fun to make, so i don't want to hear any whining about file size

. the sound quality is terrible (as is some of my hacking) compared to the real thing, so put your imagination hats on before listening.

http://www.wildealien.com/ssorg_media/chan2dry.avi
--> http://youtube.com/watch?v=jG-wr3JOgF4
channel 2 vintage dry. i don't really get into channel 2 that much, but it's pretty nice when it's what i'm after.

http://www.wildealien.com/ssorg_media/chan3dry.avi
--> http://youtube.com/watch?v=r4vh_iivz8k
channel 3 modern dry. since i'm using the G-Major, i have the Nomad's reverb turned all the way down on all the channels. in these two and the next two, the FX mix is turned to 0%, so you're hearing pure amp and no G-Major.

http://www.wildealien.com/ssorg_media/chan3dryEQ@12.avi
--> http://youtube.com/watch?v=zOOgCF1ITOU
channel 3 modern dry, noon'ed EQ. the other clips i did with a slightly different EQ setting. treble ~ 2:00, mids ~ 10:00, bass ~ 2:00. i generally jam by myself with these settings, but when i play with my band, i tweak everything towards noon (slightly), so that i fit better in the mix.

http://www.wildealien.com/ssorg_medi...yXTR....up.avi
--> http://youtube.com/watch?v=uyomdkou90g
channel 3 modern dry, with Extreme voicing switch engaged (45w model only). yeah, i ....ed this riff up

. but, there it is anyways.

http://www.wildealien.com/ssorg_media/chan3p4.avi
--> http://youtube.com/watch?v=GTHHr2lFLWo
channel 3 modern, G-Major patch 4. this patch has a bit of reverb, a touch of delay, and some wide chorus.

http://www.wildealien.com/ssorg_media/chan3p5.avi
--> http://youtube.com/watch?v=YbkcmPRDONw
channel 3 vintage, G-major patch 5. this patch is sorta like my #4, only it has no chorus, and the delay is a little stronger. i'm also switched to the AN7, whereas i'm playing through the Blaze Custom on the rest.

http://www.wildealien.com/ssorg_media/im002361b.jpg
this is a pic of the amp face to show you the settings i'm using. one thing you might notice is that i have all my presence up pretty high. i think my guitars sound pretty dark by nature, so i dial up the presence to brighten things up a bit.

worth noting (for being concise) is that the guitar i'm playing there is my RG7621 with a Blaze Custom in the bridge, and the Air Norton 7 in the neck, strung up with D'Addario's 7-string pack of 9's (that's a 54 B string). i'm hooked up with George L's cables, there's a Crybaby wah in the signal before the amp, and the G-Major is in the FX loop. my search for a pick that wouldn't lose it's point landed me using Dunlop Jazz III's. lest i forget, the tubes in the Nomad are JJ's. the preamp has 3 high gain rated ECC83S's, channel 1 has an ECC803S for more headroom, a balanced phase inverter, and the power section has 4 EL84's.

enjoy

Drew · 03-25-2006, 07:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leon

http://www.wildealien.com/ssorg_media/chan3dry.avi
channel 3 modern dry. since i'm using the G-Major, i have the Nomad's reverb turned all the way down on all the channels. in these two and the next two, the FX mix is turned to 0%, so you're hearing pure amp and no G-Major.

In particular I like this one. What's that riff? It's ....in' cool, whatever it is.

Leon · 03-26-2006, 02:22 AM

that's Type O Negative's cover of Cinnamon Girl, a great little warmup tune

Jason · 03-26-2006, 02:27 AM

sounds pretty good leon

Karl Hungus · 03-26-2006, 03:13 AM

Thanks very much Leon, and nice choice of song too.

Leon · 03-26-2006, 10:58 AM

thanks Jason! no prob Karl

eleven59 · 03-26-2006, 03:16 PM

Damn, vids won't play on my computer

I think I'm missing a codec. What are these encoded with?

Vince · 03-26-2006, 04:19 PM

I watched all the videos, and I have to agree w/ Drew, the best sound IMO of all of those is the Type-O song. Nomads are great amps and you're getting some great sounds out of yours.

I have to ask about the amp mods. First, why did you decide to go with EL84s instead of 6L6s? Also, what does the phase inverter do for you in the amplifier. I've used phase inverters in the studio to avoid phase cancellation between snare drum mics and overheads, but I don't understand the use for it in an amplifier. What does it do for you?

Thanks for posting these clips Leon, threads like this are why ss.org is the best resource on the net for guitar/amp discussion

Nice webcam skull too

Leon · 03-26-2006, 07:53 PM

thanks Vince! and you were right about the dynamic delay. i can't find a use for it. when i want delay for a lead, i just use a regular one.

as far as the mods, they're all no-brainers. it only accepts EL84's and the phase inverter is standard for the amp (the V5 position i believe)

. i'm not entirely sure what it does myself... probably aides in avoiding internal phase cancellation, but that's venturing a guess.

i'm thinking of getting another webcam, for the other eyesocket lol.

Shawn · 03-26-2006, 08:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Drew

In particular I like this one. What's that riff? It's ....in' cool, whatever it is.

Sounds great, Leon!

.... and I do like that tune, Type-O did a great job in covering that one.

Leon · 03-26-2006, 08:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eleven59

Damn, vids won't play on my computer

I think I'm missing a codec. What are these encoded with?

oh! sorry, i haven't the foggiest idea. whatever Logitech ImageStudio uses.

Chris · 03-20-2007, 07:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eleven59

Damn, vids won't play on my computer

I think I'm missing a codec. What are these encoded with?

Same here.

Stretchnutz · 03-20-2007, 08:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris

Same here.

i get sound but no video...

Chris · 03-20-2007, 08:52 PM

- Moved to the Workbench.

darren · 03-20-2007, 09:12 PM

Whew... i'm glad i'm not the only one who can't see the videos. I thought it might have been a Mac thing. I can hear the audio, though. And this confirms that i don't care much for the Nomad high-gain tone.

Berger · 03-20-2007, 09:18 PM

Cool I like the vids. Winamp acted a little weird on the chan3dryEQ@12 vid, but still played it fine.

Also which buckethead song is the chan2dry vid?

Mark. A · 03-20-2007, 09:29 PM

Sounding good dude! Couldn't see the vids either

Leon · 03-21-2007, 12:11 AM

hmm. i can't seem to view them anymore either

. any ideas anyone?

i hope you all at least enjoyed my sloppy playing!

Leon · 03-21-2007, 01:01 PM

currently youtubing all the vids. they should be up by this evening.

Darren, the audio quality is pretty terrible, i admit

. the amp is definitely warmer in person. Kevan and Steve (technomancer) both have heard it in person, and will probably agree.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Berger

Also which buckethead song is the chan2dry vid?

i think that's Post Office Buddy.

Berger · 03-21-2007, 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leon

i think that's Post Office Buddy.

cool, I have a bunch of videos that I got off of youtube and google video, and I didn't know what the actual names of the songs are.

Cool amp, even with the crappy audio my brain, I think, compensates and it sounds so sweet

Leon · 03-21-2007, 04:45 PM

thanks! yeah, it's quite the versatile little tube combo, and sounds better in person, of course

when i can get some better recorded tones, i'll certainly be putting them up.

also, updated with youtube links!!

Stretchnutz · 03-23-2007, 04:46 PM

dude! You have no head...

Leon · 03-23-2007, 05:03 PM

sure i do...

Stretchnutz · 03-23-2007, 07:44 PM

you kno what, i was thinking that, hahaha
i was like it would have been cool if he photoshoped that skull head in, lol

OrangeLightning · 05-17-2008, 11:28 AM

you get a great sound out of your nomad

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03-25-2006, 07:12 PM	#1
Leon {##[====:::. Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Nebula, Ohio Posts: 12,586 Thanked: 91 Feedback Score: 20 reviews	[Tech] Nomad 45 2x12 videos i decided to try and record something, since Karl and some others were curious about my sound. my mic is a PC mic ^ ^ ^, so i just did some videos, which don't sound much worse than making mp3s (given my equipment), except that the files are bigger. and the vids were more fun to make, so i don't want to hear any whining about file size . the sound quality is terrible (as is some of my hacking) compared to the real thing, so put your imagination hats on before listening. http://www.wildealien.com/ssorg_media/chan2dry.avi --> http://youtube.com/watch?v=jG-wr3JOgF4 channel 2 vintage dry. i don't really get into channel 2 that much, but it's pretty nice when it's what i'm after. http://www.wildealien.com/ssorg_media/chan3dry.avi --> http://youtube.com/watch?v=r4vh_iivz8k channel 3 modern dry. since i'm using the G-Major, i have the Nomad's reverb turned all the way down on all the channels. in these two and the next two, the FX mix is turned to 0%, so you're hearing pure amp and no G-Major. http://www.wildealien.com/ssorg_media/chan3dryEQ@12.avi --> http://youtube.com/watch?v=zOOgCF1ITOU channel 3 modern dry, noon'ed EQ. the other clips i did with a slightly different EQ setting. treble ~ 2:00, mids ~ 10:00, bass ~ 2:00. i generally jam by myself with these settings, but when i play with my band, i tweak everything towards noon (slightly), so that i fit better in the mix. http://www.wildealien.com/ssorg_medi...yXTR....up.avi --> http://youtube.com/watch?v=uyomdkou90g channel 3 modern dry, with Extreme voicing switch engaged (45w model only). yeah, i ....ed this riff up . but, there it is anyways. http://www.wildealien.com/ssorg_media/chan3p4.avi --> http://youtube.com/watch?v=GTHHr2lFLWo channel 3 modern, G-Major patch 4. this patch has a bit of reverb, a touch of delay, and some wide chorus. http://www.wildealien.com/ssorg_media/chan3p5.avi --> http://youtube.com/watch?v=YbkcmPRDONw channel 3 vintage, G-major patch 5. this patch is sorta like my #4, only it has no chorus, and the delay is a little stronger. i'm also switched to the AN7, whereas i'm playing through the Blaze Custom on the rest. http://www.wildealien.com/ssorg_media/im002361b.jpg this is a pic of the amp face to show you the settings i'm using. one thing you might notice is that i have all my presence up pretty high. i think my guitars sound pretty dark by nature, so i dial up the presence to brighten things up a bit. worth noting (for being concise) is that the guitar i'm playing there is my RG7621 with a Blaze Custom in the bridge, and the Air Norton 7 in the neck, strung up with D'Addario's 7-string pack of 9's (that's a 54 B string). i'm hooked up with George L's cables, there's a Crybaby wah in the signal before the amp, and the G-Major is in the FX loop. my search for a pick that wouldn't lose it's point landed me using Dunlop Jazz III's. lest i forget, the tubes in the Nomad are JJ's. the preamp has 3 high gain rated ECC83S's, channel 1 has an ECC803S for more headroom, a balanced phase inverter, and the power section has 4 EL84's. enjoy Last edited by Leon; 03-21-2007 at 04:43 PM. Reason: added YouTube links.

03-26-2006, 03:13 AM	#5
Karl Hungus You're no daisy. Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Ireland Posts: 4,181 Thanked: 225 Feedback Score: 3 reviews	Thanks very much Leon, and nice choice of song too. "Does the brain control you or are you controlling the brain? I don't know if I'm in charge of mine." - Karl Pilkington

03-26-2006, 03:16 PM	#7
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03-20-2007, 08:52 PM	#14
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03-26-2006, 02:22 AM	#3
Leon {##[====:::. Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Nebula, Ohio Posts: 12,586 Thanked: 91 Feedback Score: 20 reviews	that's Type O Negative's cover of Cinnamon Girl, a great little warmup tune

03-26-2006, 02:27 AM	#4
Jason Sign Your Neg Rep Posts! Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The woods.. Posts: 9,896 Thanked: 80 Feedback Score: 20 reviews	sounds pretty good leon

03-26-2006, 10:58 AM	#6
Leon {##[====:::. Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Nebula, Ohio Posts: 12,586 Thanked: 91 Feedback Score: 20 reviews	thanks Jason! no prob Karl

03-26-2006, 04:19 PM	#8
Vince Vince is X!!! Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Tempe, AZ Posts: 5,643 Thanked: 113 Feedback Score: 3 reviews	I watched all the videos, and I have to agree w/ Drew, the best sound IMO of all of those is the Type-O song. Nomads are great amps and you're getting some great sounds out of yours. I have to ask about the amp mods. First, why did you decide to go with EL84s instead of 6L6s? Also, what does the phase inverter do for you in the amplifier. I've used phase inverters in the studio to avoid phase cancellation between snare drum mics and overheads, but I don't understand the use for it in an amplifier. What does it do for you? Thanks for posting these clips Leon, threads like this are why ss.org is the best resource on the net for guitar/amp discussion Nice webcam skull too

03-26-2006, 07:53 PM	#9
Leon {##[====:::. Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Nebula, Ohio Posts: 12,586 Thanked: 91 Feedback Score: 20 reviews	thanks Vince! and you were right about the dynamic delay. i can't find a use for it. when i want delay for a lead, i just use a regular one. as far as the mods, they're all no-brainers. it only accepts EL84's and the phase inverter is standard for the amp (the V5 position i believe) . i'm not entirely sure what it does myself... probably aides in avoiding internal phase cancellation, but that's venturing a guess. i'm thinking of getting another webcam, for the other eyesocket lol.

03-20-2007, 09:12 PM	#15
darren Decibel Guitars Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Greater Toronto Area, Canada Posts: 11,471 Thanked: 75 Feedback Score: 9 reviews	Whew... i'm glad i'm not the only one who can't see the videos. I thought it might have been a Mac thing. I can hear the audio, though. And this confirms that i don't care much for the Nomad high-gain tone. web \| facebook \| twitter

03-20-2007, 09:18 PM	#16
Berger SS Contributor Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Huron SD Posts: 184 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Feedback Score: 5 reviews	Cool I like the vids. Winamp acted a little weird on the chan3dryEQ@12 vid, but still played it fine. Also which buckethead song is the chan2dry vid?

03-20-2007, 09:29 PM	#17
Mark. A gang* 4 lyfe Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 1,952 Thanked: 2 Feedback Score: 3 reviews	Sounding good dude! Couldn't see the vids either

03-21-2007, 12:11 AM	#18
Leon {##[====:::. Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Nebula, Ohio Posts: 12,586 Thanked: 91 Feedback Score: 20 reviews	hmm. i can't seem to view them anymore either . any ideas anyone? i hope you all at least enjoyed my sloppy playing!

03-21-2007, 04:45 PM	#21
Leon {##[====:::. Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Nebula, Ohio Posts: 12,586 Thanked: 91 Feedback Score: 20 reviews	thanks! yeah, it's quite the versatile little tube combo, and sounds better in person, of course when i can get some better recorded tones, i'll certainly be putting them up. also, updated with youtube links!!

03-23-2007, 04:46 PM	#22
Stretchnutz The Destroyer Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Palm Bay,Florida Posts: 80 Thanked: 2 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	dude! You have no head...

03-23-2007, 05:03 PM	#23
Leon {##[====:::. Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Nebula, Ohio Posts: 12,586 Thanked: 91 Feedback Score: 20 reviews	sure i do...

03-23-2007, 07:44 PM	#24
Stretchnutz The Destroyer Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Palm Bay,Florida Posts: 80 Thanked: 2 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	you kno what, i was thinking that, hahaha i was like it would have been cool if he photoshoped that skull head in, lol

05-17-2008, 11:28 AM	#25
OrangeLightning ss.org Regular Join Date: May 2008 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 1 Thanked: 0 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	you get a great sound out of your nomad Guitars: EBMM JP7w/ Piezo, Ibanez JEM 7VWH, Strat, Tele, 73' Rickenbacker 4001 \| V Effects: TU-2 -> 535Q wah -> hendrix wah -> Krank Distorus Maximus -> EVH flanger -> Boss PS-5 Super Shifter - > amp loop -> Line 6 DL4 -> Boss RC-20XL Loop Station \| V Amps: Mesa Triple Rectifier or Line 6 Flextone stack \| V Cabs: THD 4X12 or Flectone Extension cab ROCK ON!

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