Yo, you know how ESP/LTD could make a killing?

[Ketzer]

EC-407. Perhaps an EC-1007.


not an ESP, a mid/high-end LTD Singlecut 7-string with 24 frets.

Phase 1 Blackout 7s (Or a passive SD set, with the same exact specs as the EC-400 and 1000. I don't even really like singlecuts and I'd be on that pretty quick.

I like the singlecut Les Paul shape, but there's literally NO guitars that are singlecut 7-strings with 24 frets, much less a nice neck that's not a baseball bat. I like the Dean Evo 7, but it's only got 22, and it's been out of production for quite a while. Is there any way we could clamor for ESP to do this?

Is this too much to ask, ESP?

[xMitch92x]

Yeah, but a LP isn't exactly the ideal shape for a 7 string.

[JohnIce]

It's easy when you hang out on this site to think that the demand for various 7-strings is huge, when it isn't really. Most 7-string players are, unfortunately to some, perfectly happy with a black plank with 707's in it. I think that unless there comes along a band in a more pop/rock oriented genre that makes blatant use of 7's in a completely new context, we'll be stuck with getting custom jobs for a long time forward.

[vampiregenocide]

I'd like a better range of pickups, e.g. more passives please.

[TheMasterplan]

Considering I own an Epiphone Les Paul 7 as my main guitar, I still say that I could understand why a good many people wouldn't like it/if it were more available, still wouldn't be in super high demand. I love mine to death though

[harvested]

hey guys, i know what you're saying..
I too own an Epi LP 7-string and I love her.. the only thing that bothers me is that is satin black...
as I said before... we NEED more COLOUR in the 7-string world..
i'm sick of "black planks with 707s" as JohnIce said....
i'd love to have that range of colours as ltd has... see-through-blue, green, cherry...etc..
unfortunatly I don't see it happening too soon

[Scar Symmetry]

In an ideal world ESP/LTD would have the same range of guitars both expensive and cheap as Ibanez do

[CrushingAnvil]

Originally Posted by xMitch92x

Yeah, but a LP isn't exactly the ideal shape for a 7 string.

...How?

[budda]

I didn't want to wait, so I'm getting a singlecut 7 (with 26' scale and 24 frets) built for me .

I agree with Ketzer - an EC407 would be deadly good in today's market.

A singlecut body design works just fine for a 7-string - singlecut body does NOT mean it looks just like a les paul!

A great neck joint (my AJC LP, the Agile Neck-thru LP's, Yamaha Weddingtons) and proper lower horn placement (20th fret) make for a fantastic-playing guitar. Carved top, 1.75in. thickness instead of the les paul 2.00in. (which is lovely too) would get most of you superstrat players at least thinking about it.

Just gotta know how to build the guitar

I hope I have my singlecut 7 some time in january, and my singlecut sixer before december

[Sang-Drax]

^ budda, d'you happen to have the link to the thread with progress pics of your upcoming axe? That countoured heel is pure sex!

[budda]

I don't have any progress pics for either of my customs as of yet, but I should have progress pics of the sixer today or tomorrow - neck is done, and the body has been glued up

[Sang-Drax]

Weren't there a couple of pictures of a see-through blue LP of yours which was on the making some time ago? A sixer one, that is.

[budda]

Ah yes, the AJC. I probably should have kept that one but I ended up returning it, selling the hamer, and now I'm waiting on a different custom 6. And if that custom 6 doesn't meet my requirements, I'm going to be one miserable guitarist!!!

[vampiregenocide]

Originally Posted by budda

Ah yes, the AJC. I probably should have kept that one but I ended up returning it, selling the hamer, and now I'm waiting on a different custom 6. And if that custom 6 doesn't meet my requirements, I'm going to be one miserable guitarist!!!

What custom you getting man?

[danenachtrieb]

yeah i dont think esp would put blackouts in them if they ever made them because i think they might be under contract with EMG actives, but they do offer duncan passives so who knows?

[Ketzer]

I don't really think that there are any shapes that are intrinsically better or worse for 6 or 7-string guitars. If agile can make a Tele-style 7 and have it sell, there's really no reason why another singlecut style wouldn't sell, either.

and yeah, no black (well, yes black, but with more options. give it the same options as the EC-1000 for finish, even. nice burst finish, or arctic white with black hardware, or even purple on a flamed top. hell, you don't even need to change the body to make one, only have to route it a little differently.

And I am aware of the fact that Sevenstring players are a relative minority in the guitar world, but I also know that there are a lot of 7 players out there who aren't on this site, and to boot, i know quite a few people who would play 7s if they could get a LP/EC-shaped one, not liking current market offerings because they're too "metal". The only reason I owned black 7s (and still do) is because the options are so limited. I know kids are always perfectly fine with black, though.

Originally Posted by danenachtrieb

yeah i dont think esp would put blackouts in them if they ever made them because i think they might be under contract with EMG actives, but they do offer duncan passives so who knows?

Hell, they could just put the ESP pickups in it and lower the price by $150 or so. let Joe end-user decide what goes in there.

[Triple-J]

It's not just ESP who could make a killing it's any other company that makes guitars IF they got off their arse and created a range of 7's that fulfill all the basic things that players want.
For example take a shape like the ESP Jon Donais model and make that a 7 and produce one with a Hipshot bridge one with a Floyd a bolt-on neck model and a baritone version each model would come in at least two colours it's such a simple idea and it could easily happen.

Sadly guitar companies are stupid and seem to make choices at random Dean could make a great series of 7's but they insist on kicking out an endless line of Dime sigs, ESP give us shapes like the Viper 7 (which has to be the most unwanted body shape in a 7 ever!) a bunch of Stef + Nergal sigs which are expensive and the sig which isn't (SC-207) is a bit naff anyway while Ibanez just need to make something that's not made out of basswood and isn't black etc etc etc.

[gunshow86de]

Originally Posted by danenachtrieb

yeah i dont think esp would put blackouts in them if they ever made them because i think they might be under contract with EMG actives, but they do offer duncan passives so who knows?

Blackouts in an ESP => http://www.sevenstring.org/forum/sev...-7-string.html

[Ketzer]

Originally Posted by Triple-J

It's not just ESP who could make a killing it's any other company that makes guitars IF they got off their arse and created a range of 7's that fulfill all the basic things that players want.
For example take a shape like the ESP Jon Donais model and make that a 7 and produce one with a Hipshot bridge one with a Floyd a bolt-on neck model and a baritone version each model would come in at least two colours it's such a simple idea and it could easily happen.

Sadly guitar companies are stupid and seem to make choices at random Dean could make a great series of 7's but they insist on kicking out an endless line of Dime sigs, ESP give us shapes like the Viper 7 (which has to be the most unwanted body shape in a 7 ever!) a bunch of Stef + Nergal sigs which are expensive and the sig which isn't (SC-207) is a bit naff anyway while Ibanez just need to make something that's not made out of basswood and isn't black etc etc etc.

Not even that, really. What they need to do is figure out what options aren't offered by current models on the market, and then make them. That's what Agile did (on our behalf, no less) We wanted something that didn't exist, and they made it happen. The interceptor 7 is basically an LTD MH-307 (with slightly better specs and less price, mind you) and there's nothing like the Hornet 7 or the Texan 7 on the market, period. most of those short-runs all sold out, to the best of my knowledge.


On an unrelated topic, yeah, I'm tired of the sig model bullshit as well. Everybody who plays your guitars doesn't need a sig model. There are guitars like the Nergal and Stef, as well as the Dan Jacobs, Rob Arnold, and Galder/Alexi sigs that I would be pretty inclined to own if they didn't have stupid logos plastered all over them (and cost 300-400 dollars more than comparable non-sig models)

[Dusty201087]

Personally I've been gassing for a singlecut seven for a long time. If I really enjoy this Rico I have coming my next build will probably be using his new Valiant shape. I know it's not a singlecut, but it's still sexy

[Asgard222]

What a coincidence, I'm in the process of planning out a custom single-cut seven string with John from Doberman Guitars.

Yeah, a seven string EC will be kick-a$$.

[MaxOfMetal]

I know it's not an ESP/LTD but there is talk in the Ibanez camp of releasing a single-cut 7 with passives. Supposedly it may replace the Apex1 as the Korn sig. It's just rumors, but who knows, Munky has been using that ART7 a lot lately.

[Ketzer]

Originally Posted by Asgard222

What a coincidence, I'm in the process of planning out a custom single-cut seven string with John from Doberman Guitars.

Yeah, a seven string EC will be kick-a$$.

If there was an EC-1007, would you still be willing to plunk down the however much it is to get a custom done?

Another reason for the LTD not ESP is for what I call the Ibanez Affliction (That they've started to remedy, thank god) where they continually release higher and higher-end models, and don't really expand on the low to medium-cost stuff. It's all well and good that Ibanez now has the 1527MGW, and that ESP has the Horizon 7 NT, but I'm not willing to drop $1200-1500 on a brand new guitar most of the time. I know there are people who will, but they're not a huge percentage of the guitar-playing community. I got a chance to play one of the new RGA32s, and I LOVE it. it's something like $350 new, with ibanez active pickups, mahogany body, and a 3-piece wizard II neck. $350 is a lot easier of an expense for me to stomach than $800-900 for an RGA121.

[EliNoPants]

Originally Posted by Triple-J

ESP give us shapes like the Viper 7 (which has to be the most unwanted body shape in a 7 ever!)

if ANY of the 7's they offered in LTD models that i could afford came with a 27" scale, i'd have gotten that long before i got my SC-607B, the Viper is far and away my favorite body shape that ESP offers...unfortunately they only offer at 27" Viper 7 as a bolt-on and only as an ESP model and only in Japan, i'd have wound up dropping like $3k to get one...the SC-607B was $850 new on ebay and had all the specs i wanted aside from the body shape (hate the way strats look, love how comfy they sit for playing on)

what baffles me is that there aren't more companies using the same specs and throwing out a few different body shapes for 7's...given what they can do with their custom shop, i'm surprised that Agile hasn't offered the Interceptor specs on at least the LP and Tele designs they have, i bet folks here would easily buy enough to make even a small run worth the effort

[budda]

Or Agile could do a singlecut 7 similar to my AJC (tummy cut, contoured heel) - full thickness is a preference for some but a hassle for others I actually prefer it for some reason.

I'll perhaps post progress pics on my custom 6 tomorrow, provided they are in tomorrow (they're supposed to be)