Blaze/7620 debate ...

jski7 · 02-22-2005, 12:27 PM

Is there any definate way to tell which pups are which , between New7s' and Blazes ? I've got a '98 7620VK , and while stripping the body for a custom project , I noticed that the pups are definately Dimarzio , and both are 4-wire , red , white , black , and green . No model numbers , just N2 and B2 stamped on the base . I'd provide pics , but my camera is angry with me , and refuses to work

. I know this has been beaten to death , but I've never found a clear description of how to tell the difference between the two . Also , the fact that it's an early model year guitar has me questioning if I'm one of the few that really got Blazes . Speculate away ....

Metal Ken · 02-22-2005, 12:53 PM

To my knowledge, Blazes ended up never getting put in 7620s, despite original plans... I had a 1997 w/ a New 7 in the neck and a aftermarket blaze in the bridge.

jski7 · 02-22-2005, 01:01 PM

That's the thing - I've heard some early ones got 'em , and i've also heard that none got 'em . It's a curious issue , to say the least .

Drew · 02-22-2005, 01:14 PM

I'm 99% sure no 7620 ever shipped stock with Blaze II's - I'm an ibanez seven string nut, and I've never heard of a single instance. The N2 and B2 markings, either way, peg yours as New 7's.

jim777 · 02-22-2005, 03:44 PM

So what's the difference between a Blaze, and a Blaze II?

Toshiro · 02-22-2005, 03:47 PM

There is no Blaze II, or was it Blaze? Damnit, there's only one set of pickups with a Blaze name, no matter which it is, and the 7620 didn't have 'em. :p

Metal Ken · 02-22-2005, 03:56 PM

Blaze II's the Universe pickups. They're slightly different than the Blaze Pickups. which are the ones you can order from DiMarzio. i think they're almost the same...

Toshiro · 02-22-2005, 04:33 PM

I was under the impression that the Blaze/Blaze II designation was a typo on someone's part(either Dimarzio or Ibanez).

Why would they special make pickups for the UV, and sell different pickups from the catalog, when the UV was pretty much the only 'rock' 7 string being made at the time? I'd believe that Ibanez made another typo in their catalogs that Dimarzio making 2 different sets of pickups under the same naming system.

I think I might email Dimarzio and ask.. lol

Toshiro · 02-22-2005, 04:48 PM

Okay, so they sent me the 'stock' response... Heaven forbid they answer the real question as to if the old UV Blaze II are really the Blaze models with a difference name... Instead they sent me this:

Quote:

The Blaze models on our website are the same models as the pickups in
the Universe. The pickups that Ibanez calls Blaze II are the models that
Ibanez installs as standard on many of the RG 7-strings. The bridge
pickup is pretty similar in performance and specs to a Super Distortion
(DP100), and the neck pickup is similar to a Super 2 (DP104).

jim777 · 02-22-2005, 05:49 PM

That's what I thought. The "Blaze II" is a name for/are the same thing as the New 7's, because Ibanez incorrectly put in the original RG7-620 copy that it would ship with Blazes. There is no Blaze II, there's just Blazes and New 7s.

02-22-2005, 12:27 PM	#1
jski7 ss.org Regular Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Orlando,FL/Mandeville, LA Posts: 592 Main Seven: Apex 1 Rig: Mesa Dual Rec Thanked: 2	Blaze/7620 debate ... Is there any definate way to tell which pups are which , between New7s' and Blazes ? I've got a '98 7620VK , and while stripping the body for a custom project , I noticed that the pups are definately Dimarzio , and both are 4-wire , red , white , black , and green . No model numbers , just N2 and B2 stamped on the base . I'd provide pics , but my camera is angry with me , and refuses to work . I know this has been beaten to death , but I've never found a clear description of how to tell the difference between the two . Also , the fact that it's an early model year guitar has me questioning if I'm one of the few that really got Blazes . Speculate away ....

02-22-2005, 12:53 PM	#2
Metal Ken Dissident Aggressor • Super Moderator • Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Florida Posts: 16,454 Real Name: Legion Main Seven: Loomis, C7HR, Giannini 7 Rig: Mesa Rectoverb 50 Thanked: 73	To my knowledge, Blazes ended up never getting put in 7620s, despite original plans... I had a 1997 w/ a New 7 in the neck and a aftermarket blaze in the bridge. Almighty asmodeus, existant of chaos Ominous be thy name Thy kingdom come on earth Lead me into all temptation of my flesh So I may trespass greatly into Thy ways by my desires ~Fornicatus Benefictus http://www.myspace.com/impurity Brutal Skullfucking Death Metal

02-22-2005, 01:14 PM	#4
Drew Fear the Polo! Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Somerville, MA Posts: 21,365 Real Name: Call me Ahab... Main Seven: 1991 Ibanez UV7PWH Main ERG: Sherman 5-string bass Rig: Mesa Recto-verb 50 Thanked: 141	I'm 99% sure no 7620 ever shipped stock with Blaze II's - I'm an ibanez seven string nut, and I've never heard of a single instance. The N2 and B2 markings, either way, peg yours as New 7's. "...and everything under the sun is in tune, but the sun is eclipsed by the moon." http://www.metalguitarist.org

02-22-2005, 03:47 PM	#6
Toshiro Lazy Basterd Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Port Orange, FL Posts: 4,608 Main Seven: Schecter C7 Blackjack Rig: Laney GH50L & GT8 Thanked: 11	There is no Blaze II, or was it Blaze? Damnit, there's only one set of pickups with a Blaze name, no matter which it is, and the 7620 didn't have 'em. :p Um, Like Sound Files and Stuff ^_^ oh yeah, and some crappy videos too!

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02-22-2005, 01:01 PM	#3
jski7 ss.org Regular Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Orlando,FL/Mandeville, LA Posts: 592 Main Seven: Apex 1 Rig: Mesa Dual Rec Thanked: 2	That's the thing - I've heard some early ones got 'em , and i've also heard that none got 'em . It's a curious issue , to say the least .

02-22-2005, 03:44 PM	#5
jim777 Seen all good people Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: South Jersey Posts: 1,166 Real Name: Jim? lol Main Seven: 727 Rig: '87 X-100B Thanked: 2	So what's the difference between a Blaze, and a Blaze II?

02-22-2005, 03:56 PM	#7
Metal Ken Dissident Aggressor • Super Moderator • Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Florida Posts: 16,454 Real Name: Legion Main Seven: Loomis, C7HR, Giannini 7 Rig: Mesa Rectoverb 50 Thanked: 73	Blaze II's the Universe pickups. They're slightly different than the Blaze Pickups. which are the ones you can order from DiMarzio. i think they're almost the same...

02-22-2005, 04:33 PM	#8
Toshiro Lazy Basterd Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Port Orange, FL Posts: 4,608 Main Seven: Schecter C7 Blackjack Rig: Laney GH50L & GT8 Thanked: 11	I was under the impression that the Blaze/Blaze II designation was a typo on someone's part(either Dimarzio or Ibanez). Why would they special make pickups for the UV, and sell different pickups from the catalog, when the UV was pretty much the only 'rock' 7 string being made at the time? I'd believe that Ibanez made another typo in their catalogs that Dimarzio making 2 different sets of pickups under the same naming system. I think I might email Dimarzio and ask.. lol

02-22-2005, 05:49 PM	#10
jim777 Seen all good people Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: South Jersey Posts: 1,166 Real Name: Jim? lol Main Seven: 727 Rig: '87 X-100B Thanked: 2	That's what I thought. The "Blaze II" is a name for/are the same thing as the New 7's, because Ibanez incorrectly put in the original RG7-620 copy that it would ship with Blazes. There is no Blaze II, there's just Blazes and New 7s.

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