EQing, I need lesss mud

zultone · 04-16-2006, 09:22 PM

Alright, so being the lowgoer I am, I tuned my first 6 strings to BEADF#B
And my once B strign to F#
Giving me F#BEADF#B
But the low f is way too muddy.
What can I do to improve this?

bostjan · 04-16-2006, 09:30 PM

What string gauges are you using? What scale length? I hate to be the one to point this out, but you can't just tune down forever. Low F# always sounds muddy to my ears unless you go to a superheavy string on an extra long scale.

Wolf Rose makes an enhancer preamp that tightens up low notes. Try turning the lows down and roll the low midrange even more down, then inch the high freq. up a tad. Also watch your gain, as in my experience, too much gain on a traditional guitar amp doesn't work too well with anything lower than A1. Which amp are you using?

zultone · 04-16-2006, 09:39 PM

I'm using a pedal through a bass amp. My lows and low mids are CRANKED, but so are my high's. I'll try turning the low-end down

I'm using 10-56 or somethign right now.
Should've left the bass strings on.

Jim Soloway · 04-16-2006, 09:40 PM

You're pretty much playing bass at that point. It's going to be really tough to get any kind of acceptable articulation on a standard scale length guitar. Even at 27", it's a stretch, and a 56 must feel like it's just flapping in the breeze.

bostjan · 04-16-2006, 09:44 PM

.056" is pretty tiny for a low F#. Try something more along the lines of a .070" or bigger. Which pedal? I never use much distortion on bass aside from Ampeg pedals and the distorted channel on the B5R.

I couldn't agree more with what Jim Soloway just said. Let us know how it goes, I'm sure a lot of us would like to hear about how this turns out.

dpm · 04-16-2006, 10:34 PM

Give an .080 a try. The scale length is a major contributor as Jim said.

Mastodon · 04-16-2006, 10:59 PM

Damn .80 is thick.

Jim Soloway · 04-16-2006, 11:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mastodon

Damn .80 is thick.

80 is what most jazz players use for a low A on a 25" scale length.

zultone · 04-17-2006, 12:11 AM

I'll have to try a .80.

Would 12's or 13's be better for the other 6?

that guy · 04-17-2006, 12:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zultone

I'll have to try a .80.

Would 12's or 13's be better for the other 6?

13s=sex

04-16-2006, 09:22 PM	#1
zultone ss.org Regular Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: North Carolina Posts: 86 Main Seven: Halo PT-VII Thanked: 0	EQing, I need lesss mud Alright, so being the lowgoer I am, I tuned my first 6 strings to BEADF#B And my once B strign to F# Giving me F#BEADF#B But the low f is way too muddy. What can I do to improve this? http://myspace.com/thezultones

04-16-2006, 09:30 PM	#2
bostjan Spastic Kitchen! Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Indianapolis, IN Posts: 6,076 Main Seven: Oni Custom 7 Main ERG: Oni Custom 8 Rig: Mesa Dual Recto Thanked: 6	What string gauges are you using? What scale length? I hate to be the one to point this out, but you can't just tune down forever. Low F# always sounds muddy to my ears unless you go to a superheavy string on an extra long scale. Wolf Rose makes an enhancer preamp that tightens up low notes. Try turning the lows down and roll the low midrange even more down, then inch the high freq. up a tad. Also watch your gain, as in my experience, too much gain on a traditional guitar amp doesn't work too well with anything lower than A1. Which amp are you using? Khereb's myspace

04-16-2006, 09:40 PM	#4
Jim Soloway Soloway Guitars Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Portland OR Posts: 153 Thanked: 2 / 1	You're pretty much playing bass at that point. It's going to be really tough to get any kind of acceptable articulation on a standard scale length guitar. Even at 27", it's a stretch, and a 56 must feel like it's just flapping in the breeze. http://www.solowayguitars.com

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04-16-2006, 09:39 PM	#3
zultone ss.org Regular Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: North Carolina Posts: 86 Main Seven: Halo PT-VII Thanked: 0	I'm using a pedal through a bass amp. My lows and low mids are CRANKED, but so are my high's. I'll try turning the low-end down I'm using 10-56 or somethign right now. Should've left the bass strings on.

04-16-2006, 09:44 PM	#5
bostjan Spastic Kitchen! Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Indianapolis, IN Posts: 6,076 Main Seven: Oni Custom 7 Main ERG: Oni Custom 8 Rig: Mesa Dual Recto Thanked: 6	.056" is pretty tiny for a low F#. Try something more along the lines of a .070" or bigger. Which pedal? I never use much distortion on bass aside from Ampeg pedals and the distorted channel on the B5R. I couldn't agree more with what Jim Soloway just said. Let us know how it goes, I'm sure a lot of us would like to hear about how this turns out.

04-16-2006, 10:34 PM	#6
dpm RnB causes cancer Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Brisbane, Queensland, Australia Posts: 2,822 Real Name: Dan Main Seven: Old UV Main ERG: Oni 8 string Rig: modded Laney VC50 Thanked: 19	Give an .080 a try. The scale length is a major contributor as Jim said.

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Mastodon Songs about My Cats Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Bizurke Posts: 6,634 Main Seven: 2004 Ibanez RG7321 Thanked: 41	Damn .80 is thick.

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zultone ss.org Regular Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: North Carolina Posts: 86 Main Seven: Halo PT-VII Thanked: 0	I'll have to try a .80. Would 12's or 13's be better for the other 6?


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