Any guitar that you can buy without having to do a setup

03-25-2006, 03:52 PM

Mostly any guitar you buy needs a setup and some love even when it comes out of the box, why?
and is there any guitar that don't need it ?

urklvt · 03-25-2006, 03:54 PM

My acoustic....
Nothing to adjust.

Leon · 03-25-2006, 03:58 PM

it depends on how well it's setup at the factory before going out. if it's setup just the way you like, then no adjusts would be needed. my RG570 and XV500 both came to me setup pretty damned good, and i didn't have to adjust them much. my RG7621 needed some work, which i did, and it plays as nice as the others.

eaeolian · 03-25-2006, 04:12 PM

My CS Jackson needed nothing, other than a minor action raise since most people don't whack guitars like I do. Then again, a custom piece BETTER be great right out of the box...

Jackson and Hamer's USA lines are both usually excellent right from the factory.

Elysian · 03-25-2006, 04:27 PM

my Rhoads V was pretty excellent from the factory(japanese RR5), though i didn't like its pickups lol...i've never even had to touch the truss rod, the only thing i've ever done is lower or raise the action depending on how i felt at the time lol...

David · 03-25-2006, 04:29 PM

I prefer it to come non-setup, because my style and the way I like everything has to be perfect for me anyway.

Donnie · 03-25-2006, 04:31 PM

All the EBMMs that I have/had came set up perfectly, for me.

metalfiend666 · 03-25-2006, 04:58 PM

It really depends a lot on you and how you like your guitars. Everything is personal taste. For instance if you don't like the string gauge or tuning a guitar comes in, you're gonna have to tweak.

006 · 03-25-2006, 05:40 PM

Let's not forget the entire deal with air pressure/temperature changes with wood. Being transported across a country by land or air can have very adverse affects on something like a guitar, with the extreme variations in air pressure and temperatures, and can make the wood expand and contract like crazy within a very short amount of time.

Also, most guitars come equipped with the lightest possible gauge strings on them straight from the factory. Why? I have no idea, but the last time I used a set of 9's on a 6-string is beyond my memory. Why then, for every single guitar that I've bought in the past couple of years (besides my custom shop RR-1 and SL-2 from Jackson) has it been a completely necessary need to change the strings before I can even want to play it...I'll never understand a guitar made for heavy metal playing would come with such a light set of strings, but if it saves them money, whatever.

That said, typically they come out of the factory set-up pretty damn nicely. But with the transport and string gauge things going on...I'm pretty sure it takes a certain player to have it arrive on his/her doorstep and be "perfect" for them. I always re-set-up my guitars when I buy them anyway as a bit of a habit, so I can't comment on the matter much. I've never really just taken a guitar out of the box and played it, or even wanted to play it. I am really anal about making sure it's right before I even touch it, otherwise if it's not to my standards, I'll think less of the guitar. Not too fair for the axe, if you ask me.

~006+1

zimbloth · 03-25-2006, 06:16 PM

Parkers are invulnerable to climate changes, and their necks are so rock solid that they can't budge... so my vote would be for them. I owned a few of them, and they were perfect every moment.

03-25-2006, 03:52 PM	#1
Desecrated Dirty Lurker Posts: n/a	Any guitar that you can buy without having to do a setup Mostly any guitar you buy needs a setup and some love even when it comes out of the box, why? and is there any guitar that don't need it ?

03-25-2006, 03:54 PM	#2
urklvt This is my alt Join Date: May 2005 Location: Leesville, LA Posts: 2,420 Real Name: urk Main Seven: 28.625" S7420 Main ERG: Agile Intrepid 8 Rig: Mesa Mark IV Thanked: 4 / 1	My acoustic.... Nothing to adjust. "Dude, you need to find the right fucking meds to be on, because you are the most unstable person I know."

03-25-2006, 03:58 PM	#3
Leon {##[====:::. • Super Moderator • Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: The Ohio Crew Posts: 11,750 Main Seven: RG7620 of Doom Rig: Mesa / Sovtek Thanked: 78	it depends on how well it's setup at the factory before going out. if it's setup just the way you like, then no adjusts would be needed. my RG570 and XV500 both came to me setup pretty damned good, and i didn't have to adjust them much. my RG7621 needed some work, which i did, and it plays as nice as the others. I have a radical idea. The door swings both ways, we could reverse the particle flow through the gate. We'll cross the streams.

03-25-2006, 04:12 PM	#4
eaeolian The Church of SEVEN • Super Moderator • Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Woodbridge, VA Posts: 8,123 Real Name: Mike Main Seven: Jackson CS Soloist 7 Rig: Mesa Triple Recto Thanked: 30	My CS Jackson needed nothing, other than a minor action raise since most people don't whack guitars like I do. Then again, a custom piece BETTER be great right out of the box... Jackson and Hamer's USA lines are both usually excellent right from the factory. Division - American metal that doesn't suck. Much. Even on MySpace, and Soundclick, too.

03-25-2006, 04:27 PM	#5
Elysian CrabClaw Enthusiast Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Plano, TX Posts: 4,662 Real Name: Adam Main Seven: Elysian Custom Guitars Thanked: 26 $Elysian is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $Elysian is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $Elysian is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $Elysian is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $Elysian is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $Elysian is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $Elysian is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$	my Rhoads V was pretty excellent from the factory(japanese RR5), though i didn't like its pickups lol...i've never even had to touch the truss rod, the only thing i've ever done is lower or raise the action depending on how i felt at the time lol... Sign your negative rep.

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03-25-2006, 04:29 PM	#6
David je t'aime Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Issaquah, WA Posts: 4,193 Real Name: David Knise Main Seven: 2005 Ibanez RG1527 w/ Blazes Rig: POD XT Live > Carvin Thanked: 2 / 1	I prefer it to come non-setup, because my style and the way I like everything has to be perfect for me anyway.

03-25-2006, 04:31 PM	#7
Donnie Go Team Venture! Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Bonney Lake, WA. Posts: 4,322 Main Seven: Ibanez RG1077XL-BK Thanked: 11	All the EBMMs that I have/had came set up perfectly, for me. Charlie Drown @ Myspace Charlie Drown.com Buy-Band-Tshirts.com

03-25-2006, 04:58 PM	#8
metalfiend666 - Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Basildon, Essex, England Posts: 9,623 Real Name: James Main Seven: Death Warrior/KXK Sii-7 Rig: Dual Rec->Trace 3x12 Thanked: 43	It really depends a lot on you and how you like your guitars. Everything is personal taste. For instance if you don't like the string gauge or tuning a guitar comes in, you're gonna have to tweak. www.metalguitarist.org

03-25-2006, 05:40 PM	#9
006 got se7en? Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: SA-town, Texas Posts: 303 Real Name: Mike Main Seven: Searching :( Rig: DualRecto->Mesa 4x12 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Let's not forget the entire deal with air pressure/temperature changes with wood. Being transported across a country by land or air can have very adverse affects on something like a guitar, with the extreme variations in air pressure and temperatures, and can make the wood expand and contract like crazy within a very short amount of time. Also, most guitars come equipped with the lightest possible gauge strings on them straight from the factory. Why? I have no idea, but the last time I used a set of 9's on a 6-string is beyond my memory. Why then, for every single guitar that I've bought in the past couple of years (besides my custom shop RR-1 and SL-2 from Jackson) has it been a completely necessary need to change the strings before I can even want to play it...I'll never understand a guitar made for heavy metal playing would come with such a light set of strings, but if it saves them money, whatever. That said, typically they come out of the factory set-up pretty damn nicely. But with the transport and string gauge things going on...I'm pretty sure it takes a certain player to have it arrive on his/her doorstep and be "perfect" for them. I always re-set-up my guitars when I buy them anyway as a bit of a habit, so I can't comment on the matter much. I've never really just taken a guitar out of the box and played it, or even wanted to play it. I am really anal about making sure it's right before I even touch it, otherwise if it's not to my standards, I'll think less of the guitar. Not too fair for the axe, if you ask me. ~006+1 .:Guitars:. ESP/LTD EC-1000 Black (81/85) Fender Strat w/ Tex-Mex (relic'ed) .:Rig:. Mesa Dual Rectifier 2ch. Mesa Standard 4x12 w/ v30's Marshall 1936 JCM900 2x12 (G12-T75+V30) Last edited by 006; 03-25-2006 at 05:40 PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost

03-25-2006, 06:16 PM	#10
zimbloth Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Boston Posts: 11,521 Real Name: Nick Main Seven: Rico Jr Customs Main ERG: Ibanez 8 Rig: VHT Pittbull UL Thanked: 72	Parkers are invulnerable to climate changes, and their necks are so rock solid that they can't budge... so my vote would be for them. I owned a few of them, and they were perfect every moment.

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