Hellraiser + Brutal amp?

Lenny · 03-13-2006, 11:35 PM

so I need a heavy /nevermorish/Dream Theater type of sound but also one with a good lead ch.

I tried the hellraiser with a recto and the rythm ch stuff was nice, the emgs really give it a good bite, now there was no lead ch on the single recto so It was very dry and I did not like it for shready stuff.

So I thought maybe the powerball would do.

juggernaut · 03-13-2006, 11:37 PM

the hellraiser seems like a hell of a bargain. i do believe i will sell me gibson xplorer pro to buy one.

Shannon · 03-13-2006, 11:38 PM

Screw all that. Just get a vintage Sears Silvertone & you'll be set for straight up brutality!

noodles · 03-13-2006, 11:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lenny

I tried the hellraiser with a recto and the rythm ch stuff was nice, the emgs really give it a good bite, now there was no lead ch on the single recto so It was very dry and I did not like it for shready stuff.

While others may disagree, I feel it is hard to get a good lead tone with EMGs. They're just to sterile, and Mesa's voicing doesn't help them much at all. I'd try a tube screamer in front to warm it up a bit, and a good reverb or delay to round things out.

Lenny · 03-13-2006, 11:41 PM

wish it had a floyd , my right hand wants to do something at times haha

zimbloth · 03-13-2006, 11:55 PM

If you want a Nevermore like sound, get a Peavey XXX or Ultra Plus amp. I agree with noodles though, EMG 707s arent the best choice.

My choice would be to get the OTHER guitar Jeff Loomis plays, which is the Schecter C7 Blackjack which comes with a Seymour Duncan JB7 that absolutely CRUSHES. I had one of those and ran it through my Ultra Plus and the tone would make Jeff himself envious

Either way, best of luck to ya laddy.

Mark. A · 03-14-2006, 12:05 AM

Yes, the Blackjack rules.

As for amps you have the choice of a Powerball which is my favorite amp, or you could go digital/tube and grab a PODXT and get a Tube Carvin Poweramp.

I can get great Powerball tones ut of my PODXT, one of the main reasons I got it.

03-14-2006, 03:29 AM

go for randall combo,

it has super nice lead tone and works nice with 7-strings.

Ibanez_fanboy · 03-14-2006, 03:37 AM

for real bro?

zimbloth · 03-14-2006, 03:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ibanez_fanboy

for real bro?

I personally think Randalls are, well... not good. You won't sound anything like Nevermore or really any top notch metal band with a Randall IMHO. They just sound too muffled and solid-state. Everyone I tried sounded as bad as a Crate.

[insert tube amp argument here]

That's just my opinion, please don't shoot me

03-13-2006, 11:35 PM	#1
Lenny ss.org Regular Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: New York Posts: 280 Main Seven: RG2027x / Rig: Triaxis/2:90, Pod XT Thanked: 3	Hellraiser + Brutal amp? so I need a heavy /nevermorish/Dream Theater type of sound but also one with a good lead ch. I tried the hellraiser with a recto and the rythm ch stuff was nice, the emgs really give it a good bite, now there was no lead ch on the single recto so It was very dry and I did not like it for shready stuff. So I thought maybe the powerball would do.

03-13-2006, 11:38 PM	#3
Shannon Lovely Dita... • Super Moderator • Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: W. Seattle, WA Posts: 8,021 Real Name: Shannon Main Seven: Ibanez UV7PWH Rig: Digitech GSP1101 Thanked: 88	Screw all that. Just get a vintage Sears Silvertone & you'll be set for straight up brutality! Your personal hero! : MG.org

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03-13-2006, 11:37 PM	#2
juggernaut ss.org Regular Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: texas Posts: 24 Main Seven: Ignitor Rig: XXX PodXT Live Thanked: 0	the hellraiser seems like a hell of a bargain. i do believe i will sell me gibson xplorer pro to buy one.

03-13-2006, 11:41 PM	#5
Lenny ss.org Regular Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: New York Posts: 280 Main Seven: RG2027x / Rig: Triaxis/2:90, Pod XT Thanked: 3	wish it had a floyd , my right hand wants to do something at times haha

03-13-2006, 11:55 PM	#6
zimbloth Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Boston Posts: 11,521 Real Name: Nick Main Seven: Rico Jr Customs Main ERG: Ibanez 8 Rig: VHT Pittbull UL Thanked: 72	If you want a Nevermore like sound, get a Peavey XXX or Ultra Plus amp. I agree with noodles though, EMG 707s arent the best choice. My choice would be to get the OTHER guitar Jeff Loomis plays, which is the Schecter C7 Blackjack which comes with a Seymour Duncan JB7 that absolutely CRUSHES. I had one of those and ran it through my Ultra Plus and the tone would make Jeff himself envious Either way, best of luck to ya laddy.

03-14-2006, 12:05 AM	#7
Mark. A gang* 4 lyfe Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 1,949 Real Name: Mark Main Seven: BC Rich Gunslinger (6 string) Rig: PodXT/P.Amp/Marshall Thanked: 2	Yes, the Blackjack rules. As for amps you have the choice of a Powerball which is my favorite amp, or you could go digital/tube and grab a PODXT and get a Tube Carvin Poweramp. I can get great Powerball tones ut of my PODXT, one of the main reasons I got it.

03-14-2006, 03:29 AM	#8
Desecrated Dirty Lurker Posts: n/a	go for randall combo, it has super nice lead tone and works nice with 7-strings.

03-14-2006, 03:37 AM	#9
Ibanez_fanboy I want a 1527!! Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Brisbane Australia Posts: 1,304 Real Name: Jayson Main Seven: Ibanez RG7321 Rig: Fender FM212 Thanked: 0	for real bro?


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