28 5/8 inch scale seven strings

ohio_eric · 03-05-2006, 01:48 AM

I've seen these mentioned a few times and I've seen the parts for them on the Warmoth website for a while now. I have a few questions.

What do you tune them to? Are they standard or do you drop tune them? What gauge strings are you using? I use 10s on my standard guitars.

What kind of bridges are you using? I'm a trem fan myself and have a hard time playing without one.

Is balance a pain with them? The longer scale makes it seem like balancing the guitar might be a pain.

I'm getting the itch pretty bad for one and am just doing the research now.

Thanks in advance.

bostjan · 03-05-2006, 01:56 AM

You can tune standard or down. You can use tens or nines, or whatever. I would go with the next gauge lighter than what you would plan to use on standard scale for the same tuning, but it's up to you.

Balancing the trem should not be an issue as long as you use decent strings for whatever tuning you decide.

The longer scale also makes natural harmonics jump out a bit more IMO.

Drew · 03-05-2006, 02:03 AM

most XL scales are shorter than 28.5 - Ibanes does 27, Schecter does 26.5. As that's almost 2" longer that the longest scale I've personally played, I'd suggest drop-tuning it, or tuning with lighter strings than you might otherwise.

I will say, though, that the added note definition is pretty damned metal.

bostjan · 03-05-2006, 02:09 AM

Oops, I totally missed where you said 28.625"

It's a little long even for extended, so I'd say double what I actually just said.

Not double that part though. You know, the last post...

I have a 30" scale fixed bridge that holds up pretty well with lots of tunings, from C# down to F#

Metal Ken · 03-05-2006, 06:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ohio_eric

I've seen these mentioned a few times and I've seen the parts for them on the Warmoth website for a while now. I have a few questions.

What do you tune them to? Are they standard or do you drop tune them? What gauge strings are you using? I use 10s on my standard guitars.

What kind of bridges are you using? I'm a trem fan myself and have a hard time playing without one.

Is balance a pain with them? The longer scale makes it seem like balancing the guitar might be a pain.

I'm getting the itch pretty bad for one and am just doing the research now.

Thanks in advance.

Never played a 28 5/8, but i love my 27" scale. I tune mine down 1 step, to a using 10-68. Mine has a Lo Pro floating brige on it.. my guitar sits really nice, and balance isnt an issue. I'd say if your hands can deal with the extra scale length, do it.

urklvt · 03-05-2006, 07:30 AM

You can keep the same gauge of strings you currently use, just tune down by a whole step and your technique will not change. I tune my 28 5/8" down to F# just because I always tune my standard 6s to C# and with the extra whole step on the fretboard that puts my standard 6 in B and my lowest string as the F#. Right now I'm using a standard 11-58 Ernie Ball 7-string set without any real issues at all. Email me if you have any detilaed questions on that scale. I've been using it for 2 years.

Papa Shank · 03-05-2006, 07:32 AM

That scale length would be good for B standard, C# Standard and lower tunings.

Nats · 03-05-2006, 09:12 AM

is the guitar "headstock heavy" at that length?

Dendroaspis · 03-05-2006, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Nats

is the guitar "headstock heavy" at that length?

I've been scoping these too, and thinking it might be neck heavy as well.......

urklvt · 03-06-2006, 02:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Nats

is the guitar "headstock heavy" at that length?

Mine isn't, but that's because I designed it that way:

It's exactly the same length, headstock to strap button, as the standard S7420, I even use the same case I got with it.

03-05-2006, 01:48 AM	#1
ohio_eric He loves you Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Ohio Posts: 8,403 Main Seven: Schecter Jeff Loomis Sig Rig: Boss GT-8 Thanked: 180	28 5/8 inch scale seven strings I've seen these mentioned a few times and I've seen the parts for them on the Warmoth website for a while now. I have a few questions. What do you tune them to? Are they standard or do you drop tune them? What gauge strings are you using? I use 10s on my standard guitars. What kind of bridges are you using? I'm a trem fan myself and have a hard time playing without one. Is balance a pain with them? The longer scale makes it seem like balancing the guitar might be a pain. I'm getting the itch pretty bad for one and am just doing the research now. Thanks in advance.

03-05-2006, 01:56 AM	#2
bostjan Spastic Kitchen! Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Indianapolis, IN Posts: 6,076 Main Seven: Oni Custom 7 Main ERG: Oni Custom 8 Rig: Mesa Dual Recto Thanked: 6	You can tune standard or down. You can use tens or nines, or whatever. I would go with the next gauge lighter than what you would plan to use on standard scale for the same tuning, but it's up to you. Balancing the trem should not be an issue as long as you use decent strings for whatever tuning you decide. The longer scale also makes natural harmonics jump out a bit more IMO. Khereb's myspace

03-05-2006, 02:03 AM	#3
Drew Fear the Polo! Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Somerville, MA Posts: 21,365 Real Name: Call me Ahab... Main Seven: 1991 Ibanez UV7PWH Main ERG: Sherman 5-string bass Rig: Mesa Recto-verb 50 Thanked: 141	most XL scales are shorter than 28.5 - Ibanes does 27, Schecter does 26.5. As that's almost 2" longer that the longest scale I've personally played, I'd suggest drop-tuning it, or tuning with lighter strings than you might otherwise. I will say, though, that the added note definition is pretty damned metal. "...and everything under the sun is in tune, but the sun is eclipsed by the moon." http://www.metalguitarist.org

03-05-2006, 07:30 AM	#6
urklvt This is my alt Join Date: May 2005 Location: Leesville, LA Posts: 2,420 Real Name: urk Main Seven: 28.625" S7420 Main ERG: Agile Intrepid 8 Rig: Mesa Mark IV Thanked: 4 / 1	You can keep the same gauge of strings you currently use, just tune down by a whole step and your technique will not change. I tune my 28 5/8" down to F# just because I always tune my standard 6s to C# and with the extra whole step on the fretboard that puts my standard 6 in B and my lowest string as the F#. Right now I'm using a standard 11-58 Ernie Ball 7-string set without any real issues at all. Email me if you have any detilaed questions on that scale. I've been using it for 2 years. "Dude, you need to find the right fucking meds to be on, because you are the most unstable person I know."

03-05-2006, 09:12 AM	#8
Nats ss.org Regular Join Date: May 2005 Location: jersey Posts: 1,235 Rig: Mesa50Cal->Recto4x12 Thanked: 7	is the guitar "headstock heavy" at that length? www.myspace.com/isdnj

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03-05-2006, 02:09 AM	#4
bostjan Spastic Kitchen! Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Indianapolis, IN Posts: 6,076 Main Seven: Oni Custom 7 Main ERG: Oni Custom 8 Rig: Mesa Dual Recto Thanked: 6	Oops, I totally missed where you said 28.625" It's a little long even for extended, so I'd say double what I actually just said. Not double that part though. You know, the last post... I have a 30" scale fixed bridge that holds up pretty well with lots of tunings, from C# down to F#

03-05-2006, 07:32 AM	#7
Papa Shank Be-otch Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Bonnie Scotland Posts: 1,215 Real Name: Paul Main ERG: OWNI ARGH-GEE 8 Thanked: 2	That scale length would be good for B standard, C# Standard and lower tunings.

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