[Durero]

I've tried gages from .010 down to .007 to try to tune up to high A on a 25.5in. scale - all of them snapped just above G# - couldn't get a single one to reach A. The thinner strings have less tension, but they're also much weaker - I actually got closer to A with .008's than the .007's.

I've seen players with high A's on 24.75in scale necks and I know from my own experimental designs that scale length has a huge effect on tension and tone.

There is a bass player who has posted on this forum called Garry Goodman who has got a string company to make him special ultra-thin gages that won't snap. He has a 12-string bass with a high G at a 32in scale! We need to get him to reveal his string maker, or sell them to us himself.

see his post on this thread:
http://www.sevenstring.org/forum/extended-range-guitars/6673-im-getting-an-insane-8-made.html

his site:
http://garrygoodman.com/

[Shannon]

^ What Bostjan said.

It's all in the way you come off. Bottom line, don't be mad when the mods ask you to keep things on topic. It's OUR JOB to keep things running effeciently here. Case in point, when a new member is searching through the forum 2 months from now about where to find "High A strings", he'll be directly to THIS thread and not the "Big B" thread. Get it? It makes things much easier to find.

Anyway, all is well now.

p.s. If you think what I said was mean, you haven't seen Chris go off yet. It's better to get it from me than from him. Trust me.

[noodles]

Originally Posted by Shannon

Case in point, when a new member is searching through the forum 2 months from now about where to find "High A strings", he'll be directly to THIS thread and not the "Big B" thread. Get it? It makes things much easier to find.

Wait...there's a search function?

[Tubbs Mcgee]

Okay, okay, it just take a while to get adjusted to another forum, you know? I have been on the Ultimate Metal one for 4 months now, and things are quite a bit different around there.

Originally Posted by Durero

There is a bass player who has posted on this forum called Garry Goodman who has got a string company to make him special ultra-thin gages that won't snap. He has a 12-string bass with a high G at a 32in scale! We need to get him to reveal his string maker, or sell them to us himself.

Yes, actually, I know 2 other forums he has posted on also. I would really like to know how this is possible!

And just for referance - The scale length on my guitar is 25 1/2.

[Shannon]

[bostjan]

Originally Posted by Shannon

If you think what I said was mean, The emporer is not as forgiving as I am

Or was that Darth Vader who said that?

anyways, I think we all know this, or maybe some of us don't. It was discussed here before a couple months ago, but I can't find the thread using the search function for some reason, maybe because it returns dozens of irrelevent threads that i get bored of searching through after the first four or five....but anyway

Originally Posted by some book

The value of this limit frequency, known as the 'breaking frequency', is completely independent - strange as it may seem - of diameter, as may be easily demonstrated either mathematically (applying the general formula for the strings) or experimentally. This limit frequency is in direct proportion to the vibrating length of the string. In other words, the product of the vibrating length - in metres - and the breaking frequency - in Hz - is a constant defined as the 'breaking index'.

So using a .006" is not going to solve the breaking problem. Using a different scale length is the only way to go, unless you want to search the globe for molybdenum/chrome/iron alloy strings.

[jacksonplayer]

Originally Posted by bostjan

So using a .006" is not going to solve the breaking problem. Using a different scale length is the only way to go, unless you want to search the globe for molybdenum/chrome/iron alloy strings. :agrred:

Hmm, interesting. That could be a use for the otherwise sucky Ibanez AX7221 guitar with the 24.75" scale. I imagine that an .008 tuned up to A wouldn't be very bendable, though. Since you only get another fourth out of it anyway, I think a person would be better off searching out a Washburn EC29 or EC36 if you really want to get into violin range. Though I suppose that the increased arpeggiation possibilities would be cool with a high A.

[bostjan]

Well, 24.75" may just be enough to keep the string from snapping. I'm still trying to find the exact spec's someone posted here earlier...if anyone else finds it before I do, I'd appreciate the info.

[Digital Black]

http://www.sevenstring.org/forum/sho...eriemnt+worked

The most trouble i have is when it gets a few weeks old.

[bostjan]

There are quite a few threads on this topic, but there was one thread where some luthier guy (possibly Jim Soloway ?) explained the high a issue very nicely. Unfortunately, I didn't know any of you guys and I have a crumby memory, so I forgot who said it and where and now I can't find it so it might as well have never happened.

That guy with the 8-octave bass also posted some stuff about tuning to high a on a bass, which he had to make his own strings for or something.

All I know is that I've known about the high a being an issue since before I ever even tried it, in fact, highest I've gone is G# because of it.