[zak]

Hey, my 7321 is oddly going out of tune here and there as of late. I had the problem mentioned a while ago with the bridge for the low b just turning and causing the Low B to greatly go out of tune. After fixing that it's been clear sailing, until lately.
I find that I would tune the guitar, play it for a few minutes, put it on my stand, go away come back and every string under the low E be out of tune.
I thought that it might have something to do with the other bridge sockets and I noticed that they flow in a oval shape. The high E isnt at the same degree that the Low b was at.

Any help?

(I think I might just need to balance all the tails to sit straight)

[strychnine]

either get your bridge checked or put sperzel machine heads or w/e and it just wont move unless it deff is a bridge problem...thats what I think.

[Dendroaspis]

Another possibility is strings hanging-up or being pinched in the 7321's horrendously cut nut slots, as the guitar is being tuned or moved. This is the case with the one I just bought as well.
Along with the new pickups, a new low-friction nut from somewhere like Graphtech is next thing I'm putting in. As a quick fix, use some of that nut sauce/lube (yes I understand how that sounds ), or graphite from a soft pencil lead will also work temporarily.

[Ibanez_fanboy]

id say its either the nut or tuners... i cant see how it can be the bridge

[Jesse]

ITS THE SADDLES!!! I have to sma eproblem on my 7321.

[Ibanez_fanboy]

Originally Posted by Jem7vsbl

ITS THE SADDLES!!! I have to sma eproblem on my 7321.

i really dont think it is.. sorry to doubt you on this, but it really cant be... unless they are so lose that you can move them with your fingers, with there is strings on... i dont think it is. its more likely to be at the headstock end of the guitar...

[bostjan]

The saddles shouldn't all line up. I'd guess it's the nut. Slight chance it's the tuners. If it's the saddles, i'd be surprised.

[Ibanez_fanboy]

Originally Posted by bostjan

The saddles shouldn't all line up. I'd guess it's the nut. Slight chance it's the tuners. If it's the saddles, i'd be surprised.

same here i just cant see them adjusting, there is too much tension

[Dendroaspis]

Yeah, there's something way out of whack if there used to be that much play in the saddles. It physically doesn't make sense. I've never really seen that issue, and I've worked on probably 300 guitars in 20 yrs. They're right; tuned to tension, there should be no movement at all.

From what I think you're describing with the "I noticed that they flow in a oval shape. The high E isnt at the same degree that the Low b was at." is the radius of the saddles following the fingerboard radius -which it should be - but at Ibanez's 15-16" radius, the curvature should only be very slight, almost flat. Otherwise, your action would be disproportionately higher in the middle strings using a lower radius (lower radius # = more curvature of fingerboard/bridge/action). Is it possible someone was monkeying around with your saddle height adjustment screws (the two hex-key screws on each saddle) so that they're tilting at odd angles? Hmmm...it's difficult to evaluate the problem without actually seeing it, or pics. Cause of crappy, fucked-up action - yes, tuning problems - no, sorry.

Let me elaborate. I'm currently in the process right now as we speak of completely rebulding and customizing my 7321. I was also having some tuning problems with it, and narrowed it down to badly cut nut slots that were pinching a few of the strings. This is a common problem with some cheaper instruments, and demonstrates one of the cost-cutting measures taken, along with cheaper pickups and sloppy tuners with a lot of backlash (play) in the gearing. When this happens, as you tune a string and may hear/feel almost no movement, and suddenly hear it "ping" and jump up/down in tension - it's sticking in the nut slut which is too tight. The tuners on these guitars are just ok - they do work, but there's a lot of slop in them and they're really just shyte. This string/nut sticking will of course happen when, as you describe, tune the axe, and then you pick the guitar up and place it on the stand, which of course the nice thin Ibanez neck does bend ever so slighty, causing string movement, which they now stick in some nut slots, pick the guitar up again, same string movement a 2nd time - voila, out of tune. I had exactly this problem.
I almost guarantee you it's the same thing. Either get a competent tech to file or fill/recut your nut slots, or better yet get a new nut out of better material like graphite or Graphtech's Trem-nut - which is excellent low friction material. Improves your tone too. Seriously.