Final choice

Snoop · 08-04-2008, 04:25 AM

Im still searching for good 7 and now im really have only 3 models to choose:
ESP LTD VP407 Viper 7
!EDIT! Schecter Loomis C-7 without FR
Ibanez XPT707FX Xiphos 7 (damn, i love necrophagist)

What should i buy?

I want to play mathcore/death metal/some technical and brutal shit.

Thx!

OrsusMetal · 08-04-2008, 04:29 AM

Xiphos is sexy.

But go for whatever is more comfortable for you. It'll be that much easier to play all that technical and brutal shit if it's on a guitar you're comfortable with.

See if you can try any of them out first.

I'd pick the Xiphos though. I've owned one and it was awesome!

stuh84 · 08-04-2008, 04:33 AM

I cannot comment on the Xiphos as I've not played it, but between the C-7 and the Viper, I think the Viper is better. The Schecter is really nice, but the Viper is incredible, I love the neck on them, and the satin finish rather than glossy finish as on most C7's on the back of the neck is a joy, no stickyness with yer hands moving up the next.

Snoop · 08-04-2008, 04:36 AM

The problem that i cant try to hold and play any guitar!

I can buy them only by internet...
I want easiest guitar to play fast from them, but nobody knows which will be good for me

OrsusMetal · 08-04-2008, 04:44 AM

If you want the fastest, thinnest neck that comes with great hardware (minus the tuners), go for the Xiphos.
If you want a thicker neck and longer scale that comes with great hardware, go for the Hellraiser.
If you want a in between neck size that comes with great hardware, go for the Viper.

They all have great body woods. A lot of people on this site that don't like Ibanez would normally give the arguement that the other two brands (ESP, Schecter) come with better body woods and hardware. But with your case, this is not true. The Xiphos is a mahogany (wings) body and neck through. Which both the others have a mahogany body as well.

I loved the Xiphos. I haven't played the Viper, but I hear great things and I love ESPs. The Hellraiser is a great guitar but I don't like the longer scale and don't really care for the thickness of the neck. But overall it's a fantastic guitar.

Hope that helps you some.

Mattmc74 · 08-04-2008, 04:45 AM

I would go with the Xiphos myself. Sweet looking guitar and they play awesome!

Snoop · 08-04-2008, 05:03 AM

OrsusMetal
wow, thanks for this answer.
I have long fingers, so maybe thin neck isnt that good! I played 6-string ibanez, now i have b.c. rich warlock with thicker neck and i think its more comfortable for me... but i think warlock6 neck is like xiphios 7 so it will be perfect!!!
and xiphos looks is really sexy and metal!!! I like it...

but lets see some more answers!
thx!

techdeath16 · 08-04-2008, 05:47 AM

i would get the xiphos or the viper because i dont like schecters in general because the necks are just too thick.
i would say if you're gonna play fast stuff the best one would be the xiphos.
but as the guy above said, they are all great guitars in their own right.

Snoop · 08-04-2008, 05:59 AM

I see people like Xiphos here, but what is 'neck dive' shit in it? Tell me please.

yevetz · 08-04-2008, 09:57 AM

If used then viper if new one than Xiphos

08-04-2008, 04:25 AM	#1
Snoop Custom User Title Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Russia Posts: 27 Real Name: Stas Main Seven: Schecter Blackjack C-7 Thanked: 2	Final choice Im still searching for good 7 and now im really have only 3 models to choose: ESP LTD VP407 Viper 7 !EDIT! Schecter Loomis C-7 without FR Ibanez XPT707FX Xiphos 7 (damn, i love necrophagist) What should i buy? I want to play mathcore/death metal/some technical and brutal shit. Thx!

08-04-2008, 04:33 AM	#3
stuh84 The Viking himself Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Sheffield, UK Posts: 2,144 Real Name: Stuart Main Seven: LTD M207 and Jackson RR7R Main ERG: Intrepid Pro soon :D Rig: Invader 150 Thanked: 17	I cannot comment on the Xiphos as I've not played it, but between the C-7 and the Viper, I think the Viper is better. The Schecter is really nice, but the Viper is incredible, I love the neck on them, and the satin finish rather than glossy finish as on most C7's on the back of the neck is a joy, no stickyness with yer hands moving up the next. End Of Eternity - Symphonic Prog Metal from the UK

08-04-2008, 04:45 AM	#6
Mattmc74 They call me pedals Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: bay city, michigan Posts: 3,927 Real Name: Matt Main Seven: Ibanez RG7421 Rig: Marshall>Randall Cab Thanked: 71	I would go with the Xiphos myself. Sweet looking guitar and they play awesome! I want a ziploc rain coat. zepp88 Originally Posted by yellowv Matt does awesome work, but knows his shit. The average schmo's guitar isn't going to come out looking like that after a homemade cavity fill and repaint.

08-04-2008, 09:57 AM	#10
yevetz Happy? Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Kiev (Ukraine) Posts: 6,629 Real Name: Vova Main Seven: Ibanez RG 2127 Main ERG: Ibanez RG 2228 Rig: Epiphone Valve Jr. Thanked: 228	If used then viper if new one than Xiphos Sorry for my english

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08-04-2008, 04:29 AM	#2
OrsusMetal A Mural Of Twilight Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: In a giant void Posts: 601 Real Name: Sean Main Seven: Ibanez RG7 Custom Rig: None right now. :( Thanked: 5	Xiphos is sexy. But go for whatever is more comfortable for you. It'll be that much easier to play all that technical and brutal shit if it's on a guitar you're comfortable with. See if you can try any of them out first. I'd pick the Xiphos though. I've owned one and it was awesome!

08-04-2008, 04:36 AM	#4
Snoop Custom User Title Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Russia Posts: 27 Real Name: Stas Main Seven: Schecter Blackjack C-7 Thanked: 2	The problem that i cant try to hold and play any guitar! I can buy them only by internet... I want easiest guitar to play fast from them, but nobody knows which will be good for me

08-04-2008, 04:44 AM	#5
OrsusMetal A Mural Of Twilight Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: In a giant void Posts: 601 Real Name: Sean Main Seven: Ibanez RG7 Custom Rig: None right now. :( Thanked: 5	If you want the fastest, thinnest neck that comes with great hardware (minus the tuners), go for the Xiphos. If you want a thicker neck and longer scale that comes with great hardware, go for the Hellraiser. If you want a in between neck size that comes with great hardware, go for the Viper. They all have great body woods. A lot of people on this site that don't like Ibanez would normally give the arguement that the other two brands (ESP, Schecter) come with better body woods and hardware. But with your case, this is not true. The Xiphos is a mahogany (wings) body and neck through. Which both the others have a mahogany body as well. I loved the Xiphos. I haven't played the Viper, but I hear great things and I love ESPs. The Hellraiser is a great guitar but I don't like the longer scale and don't really care for the thickness of the neck. But overall it's a fantastic guitar. Hope that helps you some.

08-04-2008, 05:03 AM	#7
Snoop Custom User Title Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Russia Posts: 27 Real Name: Stas Main Seven: Schecter Blackjack C-7 Thanked: 2	OrsusMetal wow, thanks for this answer. I have long fingers, so maybe thin neck isnt that good! I played 6-string ibanez, now i have b.c. rich warlock with thicker neck and i think its more comfortable for me... but i think warlock6 neck is like xiphios 7 so it will be perfect!!! and xiphos looks is really sexy and metal!!! I like it... but lets see some more answers! thx!

08-04-2008, 05:47 AM	#8
techdeath16 ss.org Regular Join Date: May 2008 Location: Manchester, England Posts: 86 Real Name: Joel Main Seven: Ibanez RG7620 w/BKPs Rig: Marshall AVT,BossMT2 Thanked: 2	i would get the xiphos or the viper because i dont like schecters in general because the necks are just too thick. i would say if you're gonna play fast stuff the best one would be the xiphos. but as the guy above said, they are all great guitars in their own right.

08-04-2008, 05:59 AM	#9
Snoop Custom User Title Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Russia Posts: 27 Real Name: Stas Main Seven: Schecter Blackjack C-7 Thanked: 2	I see people like Xiphos here, but what is 'neck dive' shit in it? Tell me please.

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