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Old 05-09-2008, 02:31 PM   #41 (permalink)
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Why all the basswood hate then?
It really is a matter of personal preference. Personally, I hate the stuff. It lacks that "chunk" on the low end that I'm looking for, the mids are way to present, and the top end is indistinct. It is completely not the wood for me.

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Old 05-09-2008, 02:34 PM   #42 (permalink)
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It really is a matter of personal preference. Personally, I hate the stuff. It lacks that "chunk" on the low end that I'm looking for, the mids are way to present, and the top end is indistinct. It is completely not the wood for me.
It seems like alot of people tend to agree with that though. I don't have that much experience with different woods, but my 007 seems to have something I really like that my JP6 is missing, and I think it might be the mahogany.
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Basswood can be a perfectly fine tonewood for a lot of applications. Consider the guys who really entrenched the popularity of basswood with the Ibanez line - Steve Vai and Joe Satriani. Instrumental guys, playing guitar solos over the entire range of the instrument, with a ton of gain and fairly processed sounds. Basswood is perfect here - it's pretty even sounding with lots of mids, translating into a thick midrange "vocal" sort of sound that responds pretty consistantly over the course of the entire fretboard. It also handles processing pretty well, since again tonally it's very even.

Problem is, a lot of what makes great tonewoods sound so great is their UN-evenness; the scooping or combing of some frequencies but not others. Mahogany has a lot of low mids, not too much fundamental, and fairly round highs, which translates into a tight, thick sound with a lot of low mid punch to it. Alder is way brighter, with a stonger fundamentall and more upper midrange, as is ash, with good sparkle to the high end, which makes for a very present, explosive sounding tonewood. They're not nearly as even as basswood, but that unevenness adds character.

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Basswood can be a perfectly fine tonewood for a lot of applications. Consider the guys who really entrenched the popularity of basswood with the Ibanez line - Steve Vai and Joe Satriani. Instrumental guys, playing guitar solos over the entire range of the instrument, with a ton of gain and fairly processed sounds. Basswood is perfect here - it's pretty even sounding with lots of mids, translating into a thick midrange "vocal" sort of sound that responds pretty consistantly over the course of the entire fretboard. It also handles processing pretty well, since again tonally it's very even.

Problem is, a lot of what makes great tonewoods sound so great is their UN-evenness; the scooping or combing of some frequencies but not others. Mahogany has a lot of low mids, not too much fundamental, and fairly round highs, which translates into a tight, thick sound with a lot of low mid punch to it. Alder is way brighter, with a stonger fundamentall and more upper midrange, as is ash, with good sparkle to the high end, which makes for a very present, explosive sounding tonewood. They're not nearly as even as basswood, but that unevenness adds character.
Cool, thanks alot for the rundown . It sounds about right, my 007 really does have a character to it that the JP doesn't. But the JP is still new to me so I haven't got to know it as well as my schecter yet. The JP can be way smoother than the schecter though which is alot more snappy, harder to get those liquidy neck pickup leads.

Anyway i'll let the thread get back on topic.
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...that Ibanez makes the best seven strings?

Tell me your opinion an why.
I disagree. I confess freely to, in my younger days, being a 100% Ibby fanboy. All I played growing up were Ibanez's, once I was lucky enough to be able to afford a JS1000. I thought that was the cat's meow.

After a hiatus from playing, I came back to Ibanez, but I took a change and bought a Carvin. And that was that... no more Ibby's for me.
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I think Caparison is more readily available in the US now, so I would take one of those over an EBMM any day of the week, simply because it is not basswood, and has a real trem.
If I'd ever had the chance to play a Caparison, I'd probably end up agreeing with you.

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I also wouldn't count ESP, since the real ones are rare, difficult to obtain, and wickedly expensive.
That why I don't really consider the SRC-7 to be a production guitar, since you have to special order them just like a custom, AFAIK. Might just as well get a guitar with a more usable pickup configuration, while you're at it.

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Hell, if we're talking the Japanese market, than I rather order a semi-custom Jackson Stars from the J1 line over a J-Custom.
Does a 7-string option fall within the semi-custom range? I thought that was mostly finishes and hardware. They've changed that recently, in any event, so I have no idea what they're still doing with those. Either way, it's not exactly a production instrument.
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As far as bolt on 7's go, I'd much rather have a Caparison, or the Dean RC7.

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no, they dont. why?

1. basswood. not everyone likes it.
2. 25.5 scale. again, not everyone likes it.
3. super thin necks! not everyone likes it. especially me. me who found a schecter neck too thin in some aspects.
4. ever played a custom guitar?
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Because you've had a chance to try it?
No, but from all the things I've seen about it, I'm really interested in it. The specs are perfect for me.



Has anybody had a chance to play it?
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