NGD: Blackmachine B7 (56k - lol)

Edroz · 04-29-2008, 05:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stitch

But there a fair few that are determined to beat them down, simply because they can't understand the concept of global economies and can't deal with the fact that its the cost of two JPM7's from where they live.

dude, that has nothing to do with what we're talking about. i'm sure a "fair few" of us (including myself) just want to know what the purpose of the misaligned ferrules are for and if it IS done intentionally, and the reason for it.

i've never played a Blackmachine or seen one in person. i am however curious about them and how they're made (like many other guitars i've never played)

noodles · 04-29-2008, 05:53 PM

OK, guys, knock it off already. Some of us think the ferrules look dumb, and some of us don't care. This thread is going to hell, so just agree to disagree and stop cluttering the thread up.

Stealthtastic · 04-29-2008, 08:31 PM

that thing looks orgasmic, and your photography is much better than the websites :p

Uber Mega · 04-30-2008, 11:02 AM

I got an email back from Doug today regarding the ferrules:

"The string ferrules are placed according to the pattern of holes in the bridge".

So I went and looked at my bridge, because I thought the bridge holes would surely be in a straight line...Wrong. Blackmachines have Gotoh hardtail bridges, and the actual holes in my bridge are the EXACT same layout as the holes drilled in the back, I don't know why but there you have it.

There are a few Blackmachines (Dez has one) that don't use Gotoh bridge, they have a piece of wood with staggered saddles attached directly to it, the ferrule holes also follow this and therefore look even more misaligned on the back.

Hope that clears it up

Stitch · 04-30-2008, 11:16 AM

sakeido · 04-30-2008, 11:18 AM

I feel vindicated now

noodles · 04-30-2008, 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Uber Mega

So I went and looked at my bridge, because I thought the bridge holes would surely be in a straight line...Wrong. Blackmachines have Gotoh hardtail bridges, and the actual holes in my bridge are the EXACT same layout as the holes drilled in the back, I don't know why but there you have it.

Of course, this means Gotoh sucks.

Roundhouse_Kick · 04-30-2008, 11:43 AM

Ferules!!Ferules!! Damn ferules. Shoddy workmaship i tell thee! Bloody cowboys cant even drill in a straight line.

And half the headstock is missing!!

And he forgot to paint it!!!!!

That guitar looks amazing. Congratulations, i'm sure its worth the long wait. I haven't been priveledged enough to play or see one in person yet but one day I hope it will!!

Uber Mega · 04-30-2008, 12:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by noodles

Of course, this means Gotoh sucks.

haha

you may be right!

s7eve · 05-21-2008, 10:00 AM

I just saw this for the first time.

Congratulations, it looks incredible.I wish I could have one but if I sold all my guitars and gear I still would not have enough money.

Uber Mega · 05-21-2008, 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by s7eve

I just saw this for the first time.

Congratulations, it looks incredible.I wish I could have one but if I sold all my guitars and gear I still would not have enough money.

Thanks, do what I do and live off of Flapjack and milk for 2 years

I couldn't afford it either really tbh, my overdraft and credit card have taken a battering

neon_black88 · 05-21-2008, 01:05 PM

I could probably sell everything I own and not be able to afford one of those

Looks really fuckin nice though man. Love the finish.

TomAwesome · 05-21-2008, 05:20 PM

Very nice!

s7eve · 05-21-2008, 07:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Uber Mega

Thanks, do what I do and live off of Flapjack and milk for 2 years

I couldn't afford it either really tbh, my overdraft and credit card have taken a battering

Maybe if I was single with no kids.

Uber Mega · 05-21-2008, 08:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by s7eve

Maybe if I was single with no kids.

Sell them, sell them all!

xwmucradiox · 05-21-2008, 08:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sakeido

He is so unhappy with it, he won't sell it.. not even for its original purchase price.

I told you the craftsmanship was less than steller and that the finish work was not up to par for the price of the instrument but that the playability was as good as you could ever want. There were two price increases after I placed my order so there would be no reason for me to charge less than what the market will bear for an extremely rare instrument. Thats pretty simple economics really.

Stealthtastic · 05-21-2008, 09:20 PM

Blackmachines look hella wicked in darker lighting.

Apex1rg7x · 05-23-2008, 03:46 PM

Man that thing is killer. I saw on the BM website that they were taking six orders so i emailed him back and forth a few times, then i about pulled the trigger and ordered one but just couldnt do it. Man i hope you like that guitar, it is incredible looking.

Thin_Ice_77 · 05-26-2008, 04:41 PM

DAMN!

tmcarr · 05-26-2008, 05:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jammy

Something I've just noticed - what's with the mis-alignment of the string ferrules on the back?

Its because the holes in the bridge are like that. Ive never been sure why they did that... the break point at the bridge is all thats important, right? So why get all complicated with the ferrule placement for something other than looks...

goes the same for something with a gibson style bridge... seems like a waste of planning time to me...

04-29-2008, 05:53 PM	#102
noodles I'm your huckleberry Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Woodbridge, VA Posts: 17,832 Thanked: 300	OK, guys, knock it off already. Some of us think the ferrules look dumb, and some of us don't care. This thread is going to hell, so just agree to disagree and stop cluttering the thread up. __________________ Noodles Division: American Metal without the suck. kxksales@gmail.com "Somewhere along the way, the Straight Talk Express lost some wheels..." --Barack Obama on John McCain

04-30-2008, 11:02 AM	#104
Uber Mega Try my fist! Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Leeds, UK Posts: 1,468 Thanked: 36	I got an email back from Doug today regarding the ferrules: "The string ferrules are placed according to the pattern of holes in the bridge". So I went and looked at my bridge, because I thought the bridge holes would surely be in a straight line...Wrong. Blackmachines have Gotoh hardtail bridges, and the actual holes in my bridge are the EXACT same layout as the holes drilled in the back, I don't know why but there you have it. There are a few Blackmachines (Dez has one) that don't use Gotoh bridge, they have a piece of wood with staggered saddles attached directly to it, the ferrule holes also follow this and therefore look even more misaligned on the back. Hope that clears it up __________________ ____________________________________________ Click and visit my Youtube page! ____________________________________________

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04-29-2008, 08:31 PM	#103
Stealthtastic ss.org Regular Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Bc Canada Posts: 6,762 Thanked: 46	that thing looks orgasmic, and your photography is much better than the websites :p

04-30-2008, 11:16 AM	#105
Stitch Banned Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Edinburgh, Scotland Posts: 7,906 Thanked: 126

04-30-2008, 11:43 AM	#108
Roundhouse_Kick ss.org Regular Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Preston/lancaster, UK Posts: 1,266 Thanked: 4	Ferules!!Ferules!! Damn ferules. Shoddy workmaship i tell thee! Bloody cowboys cant even drill in a straight line. And half the headstock is missing!! And he forgot to paint it!!!!! That guitar looks amazing. Congratulations, i'm sure its worth the long wait. I haven't been priveledged enough to play or see one in person yet but one day I hope it will!!

05-21-2008, 10:00 AM	#110
s7eve KILL BOT • Super Moderator • Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Agnes Water, Qld, Australia Posts: 6,311 Thanked: 70	I just saw this for the first time. Congratulations, it looks incredible.I wish I could have one but if I sold all my guitars and gear I still would not have enough money.

05-21-2008, 01:05 PM	#112
neon_black88 ss.org Regular Join Date: May 2006 Location: Vic, Melbourne Australia Posts: 1,225 Thanked: 37	I could probably sell everything I own and not be able to afford one of those Looks really fuckin nice though man. Love the finish.

05-21-2008, 09:20 PM	#117
Stealthtastic ss.org Regular Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Bc Canada Posts: 6,762 Thanked: 46	Blackmachines look hella wicked in darker lighting.

05-23-2008, 03:46 PM	#118
Apex1rg7x Agent of Chaos Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Sioux Falls, SD Posts: 1,435 Thanked: 14	Man that thing is killer. I saw on the BM website that they were taking six orders so i emailed him back and forth a few times, then i about pulled the trigger and ordered one but just couldnt do it. Man i hope you like that guitar, it is incredible looking.

05-26-2008, 04:41 PM	#119
Thin_Ice_77 You'll never make it Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: West Midlands, UK Posts: 1,915 Thanked: 51	DAMN!

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