Need tips on getting tighter

Harray 18 · 03-24-2008, 06:41 PM

My band is recording at John Browne from Fell Silents studio in a few weeks and a few of our riffs I can play but in places they are a little bit sloppy, not that sloppy but a tad

just feel I need some tips to bring some more tightness and edge to my playing

cheerss

djpharoah · 03-24-2008, 06:43 PM

Need more information such as your guitar, pickups and rig setup.

Harray 18 · 03-24-2008, 06:45 PM

I play a ibanez rg7321 with evo 7 bridge
I think we will be using his engl invader for recording

Crucified · 03-24-2008, 06:50 PM

get yourself a recording system on your computer or something that you can double track. lay down one good track perfectly to a click and start doubling it, constantly. you'll be able to tell right away if you are out and having to redo it to the point of being perfect with itself will make you tighter.

oompa · 03-24-2008, 07:12 PM

^ splendid advice.

if its not possible to get such a system in time, a simplified version might be to tab the stuff out on a tab program, like gp5 or something, and then practice it for a while, and work yourself up to some 110% of the regular speed. then go back down and make sure its really tight and clean.

just working against a computer brings a sort of tightness, it is not always good, but usually it is.

Randomist · 03-24-2008, 07:14 PM

cut down on the poppers...

also you probably don't need any expensive recording system, just a cable/adapter that goes from a guitar jack to a headphone jack and audacity (which i beleive is free) will do the job.

Demeyes · 03-24-2008, 07:17 PM

If you don't use a metronome then you should play along with that regularly, also if there is another guitarist in the band then jam with him a few times and make sure you both know what notes you are playing. Other than that the advice about recording and playing with it is excellent.
I just recorded some stuff with my band and little mistakes for harder riffs are well worth nailing before you enter a studio. I ended up overdubbing a few riffs that were pretty sloppy when I listened back to them.

Harray 18 · 03-24-2008, 07:49 PM

I already do my own recording
and I know that my stuff is tight but not brilliantly tight to my ears

check it out for yourself and tell me what i can do:
SoundClick artist: Harray - Heavy, epic, tight, atmospheric ambient etc

great advice so far, much appreciated

unconventional · 03-24-2008, 09:18 PM

I have audacity, I try to double tracks and they get out of sync. I wish that crap didn['t have to be so complicated.

Ryan · 03-24-2008, 09:20 PM

Play to a computer, and stick to the beat as best as you can with your pick hand.

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03-24-2008, 06:41 PM	#1 (permalink)
Harray 18 ss.org Regular Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Aylesbury, UK Posts: 65 Real Name: Harry Main Seven: Ibanez Rg7321 Rig: BBE maximizer>Pod X3 Thanked: 2	Need tips on getting tighter My band is recording at John Browne from Fell Silents studio in a few weeks and a few of our riffs I can play but in places they are a little bit sloppy, not that sloppy but a tad just feel I need some tips to bring some more tightness and edge to my playing cheerss

03-24-2008, 07:12 PM	#5 (permalink)
oompa Ze.. Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Dimensional Vortex Posts: 924 Main Seven: Ibanez 7620 Thanked: 18	^ splendid advice. if its not possible to get such a system in time, a simplified version might be to tab the stuff out on a tab program, like gp5 or something, and then practice it for a while, and work yourself up to some 110% of the regular speed. then go back down and make sure its really tight and clean. just working against a computer brings a sort of tightness, it is not always good, but usually it is. Eat Shit. Billions of flies can't be wrong.

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unconventional Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Worse-ter, MA Posts: 520 Real Name: Kevin Main Seven: XTP 707 Main ERG: 19 string Rig: RM4 > RM2/50 Thanked: 12	I have audacity, I try to double tracks and they get out of sync. I wish that crap didn['t have to be so complicated. GUESS WHAT I'VE GOT? Fitzgibbons 5000 ultra synapse accellerator which allows me to think faster than the masses and phase in and out of the matrix at will.

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03-24-2008, 06:43 PM	#2 (permalink)
djpharoah Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: OC / LBC / LA Posts: 4,497 Main ERG: Septor 727 Rig: GNX3k => GMX212 Thanked: 182	Need more information such as your guitar, pickups and rig setup.

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Harray 18 ss.org Regular Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Aylesbury, UK Posts: 65 Real Name: Harry Main Seven: Ibanez Rg7321 Rig: BBE maximizer>Pod X3 Thanked: 2	I play a ibanez rg7321 with evo 7 bridge I think we will be using his engl invader for recording

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Crucified Deathgrind Maniac Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Victoria BC Posts: 1,267 Real Name: Kevin Main Seven: rg2027xvv Main ERG: Custom Sherman 8. Rig: Herbert/Uberschall Thanked: 46 $Crucified is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $Crucified is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $Crucified is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $Crucified is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $Crucified is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $Crucified is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $Crucified is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$	get yourself a recording system on your computer or something that you can double track. lay down one good track perfectly to a click and start doubling it, constantly. you'll be able to tell right away if you are out and having to redo it to the point of being perfect with itself will make you tighter.

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Randomist ss.org Regular Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Leeds Posts: 99 Real Name: Luke Main ERG: Ibby srx300 Thanked: 0	cut down on the poppers... also you probably don't need any expensive recording system, just a cable/adapter that goes from a guitar jack to a headphone jack and audacity (which i beleive is free) will do the job.

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Demeyes ss.org Regular Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Ireland Posts: 289 Real Name: Eoin Main Seven: C7 Hellraiser Rig: GT8 - Laney GH50L Thanked: 2 / 1	If you don't use a metronome then you should play along with that regularly, also if there is another guitarist in the band then jam with him a few times and make sure you both know what notes you are playing. Other than that the advice about recording and playing with it is excellent. I just recorded some stuff with my band and little mistakes for harder riffs are well worth nailing before you enter a studio. I ended up overdubbing a few riffs that were pretty sloppy when I listened back to them.

03-24-2008, 07:49 PM	#8 (permalink)
Harray 18 ss.org Regular Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Aylesbury, UK Posts: 65 Real Name: Harry Main Seven: Ibanez Rg7321 Rig: BBE maximizer>Pod X3 Thanked: 2	I already do my own recording and I know that my stuff is tight but not brilliantly tight to my ears check it out for yourself and tell me what i can do: SoundClick artist: Harray - Heavy, epic, tight, atmospheric ambient etc great advice so far, much appreciated

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Ryan Hylian Metal Master • Super Moderator • Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: The Farthest Outpost Posts: 5,877 Main Seven: RG9147 Main ERG: RG7421XL Rig: Engl -> Mesa Thanked: 64	Play to a computer, and stick to the beat as best as you can with your pick hand.

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