[heffergm]

I posted this in another thread, but it's buried under a lot of other garbage. In an effort to maybe come to some sort of consensus, I was hoping those that have or have attempted to replace their LFR7 with an OFR7 on a DC7x7 could chime in:

Originally Posted by ibznorange

i have one, and its fine other than the block sticking out, which doesnt matter to me since i keep plates off anyways. no routing or string spacing issues

Really? So the one place I can find to buy them new is here:

Floyd Rose Bridge and Parts for Sale at Guitar Asylum

You can specify the nut spacing, but I'm assuming that doesn't equate to any changes in the spacing of the trem itself, only the locknut. I guess I could go ahead and order one and see how it fits.

Did the trem posts that came with the OFR fit into the Carvin mountings, or did you just use the Carvin LFR studs?

EDIT: here's a nice closeup pic I found of the LFR. My concern would be the very ends of the trem where it sets into the studs. The OFR seems to curl around the studs more, so I would assume you either need to route or cut back the OFR to fit.




Here's the only pic I can find of the OFR... you can see how it would seem to wrap around the post more, although perhaps it's just my imagination:




The other thing I've noticed is that the LFR on my guitar has some of the individual saddles shimmed to raise them. Not sure if I'd run into issues there either.


So to sum up, issues I've heard reported are:

1) string spacing
2) trem block sticks out the rear cavity
3) routing required around trem posts
4) correct setup for the 14" radius fretboard (???)

[djpharoah]

Yeah - alot of people have found that the string spacing is not the same as the LFRs Carvin uses and even a few have gone back to the LFR after using the OFR.

[jacksonplayer]

The OFR-7 only wraps around the treble-side trem post. The other one is done like the LFR, in order to accommodate different stud spacings. Frankly, all the OFRs should be like that. It would still be an issue on the Carvin, however.

As to the string spacing, I'm surprised the two are different. I've not found that to be true of the six-string versions.

[heffergm]

I would have thought the string spacing issue could be sorted by getting the correctly spaced locknut. You can order different widths, at least you can here:

Floyd Rose Bridge and Parts for Sale at Guitar Asylum

Originally Posted by jacksonplayer

The OFR-7 only wraps around the treble-side trem post. The other one is done like the LFR, in order to accommodate different stud spacings. Frankly, all the OFRs should be like that. It would still be an issue on the Carvin, however.

As to the string spacing, I'm surprised the two are different. I've not found that to be true of the six-string versions.

I'm curious whether some dremel work on the OFR would negate the need to sand down the body there, without destroying the trem...

[kmanick]

I couldn't get it to work on mine but EdRoz seems to have gotten it to work.
I actually still ahve the OFR trem posts and the locking nut on my DC727, I just put the
licensed trem back on. On mine I found the string spacing was wider than the licensed trem so my high E and Low B were right on the edge of the fretboard.
No good for me, I don't have a baby light touch so I was constantly pulling the strings off of the edge of the fret board.
I think my tech ground down the "hook" on the bar side of the trem so he wouldn't have to route out the floyd route on mine.
I was bummed for sure, the OFR felt quite a bit smoother and my guitar actually sounded better with it in there, but I just couldn't get it to work. The shims were also a factor , the guitar had a different feel to it with the ORF than the Licensed one.
here's what mine looked like.

here's the trem that was on mine

The trem I had didn't "hook" around either post.
I'm beggining to think I recieved a copy that was labeled OFR, because it looks different from the Floyd on my Loomis.

[noodles]

Psst...close-ups shots of an OFR-7 in this thread

Originally Posted by kmanick

I couldn't get it to work on mine but EdRoz seems to have gotten it to work.
I actually still ahve the OFR trem posts and the locking nut on my DC727, I just put the
licensed trem back on. On mine I found the string spacing was wider than the licensed trem so my high E and Low B were right on the edge of the fretboard.
No good for me, I don't have a baby light touch so I was constantly pulling the strings off of the edge of the fret board.

I think the licensed trem uses narrower saddles. Practically every seven out there conforms to the "Gibson" string spacing, since they use either tune-o-matic bridges or licensed Floyds. In the sixer world, practically ever metal axe is "trem" spaced, since Floyds have wider saddles. Floyd Rose uses the exact same saddles on the OFR-7 as they do on the OFR. When mine arrived, I could instantly see that the bridge was wider than I expected.

I could be wrong about the licensed bridges being narrower, though. You said the width between the posts wqas different, so perhaps your licensed bridge was mounted at a slight angle. Maybe there is a difference in width between bound and unbound Carvin necks. There are a bunch of little things that could be contributing factors.

[heffergm]

Originally Posted by kmanick

I'm beggining to think I recieved a copy that was labeled OFR, because it looks different from the Floyd on my Loomis.

Here's my guess...

Like you said first, I think if you had a luthier install this, he just ground down the "hook" on the treble side so he wouldn't have to do any routing. I like that solution.

I'm wondering if your string spacing issue could have been resolved by a tighter spaced locknut. You can get the OFR with different nut widths. Or did you end up trying the OFR trem with the Carvin locknut and still didn't have any luck?

Originally Posted by noodles

Psst...close-ups shots of an OFR-7 in this thread



I think the licensed trem uses narrower saddles. ...

I don't suppose anyone has any OFR7 and a ruler? I'm happy to measure my LFR7 when I get home...

[noodles]

Originally Posted by heffergm

I don't suppose anyone has any OFR7 and a ruler? I'm happy to measure my LFR7 when I get home...

If you wait until later tonight, I can measure mine.

[heffergm]

Originally Posted by noodles

If you wait until later tonight, I can measure mine.

Cool. I'm not going anywhere

[kmanick]

I have the narrower nut and I switched back and forth between teh Licensed lock nut and the OFR lock nut.
they are both the 1 7/8's width. (2.0 is the wider nut that Schecter uses).