New project guitar

Jason · 02-01-2008, 02:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aled Smith

Erm the headstock... i doubt that will be able to take the 7 strings, its very thin looking Parkers barely hold 6 and ive seen what can happen with thick strings and too much tension before so be careful
Why not save up and get a proper custom shop by like, lag or ESP

He has a custom

This appears to be a beater project

Apophis · 02-01-2008, 06:18 AM

Lower horn looks strange

TMM · 02-01-2008, 04:20 PM

Hahaha wow, I didn't think there would be so much opposition to my removal of the lower horn. If anything I would have thought the shred-extraordinaires around here would applaud it!

Anyway, I'm going to give it a shot by only doing an RC7G-style shave on the back of the horn and doing the refin first, and seeing what I think of it then. If it's still in the way at all I'll take the next step and remove it. Of course, I'll post pics in between too.

I do understand that the removed horn looks a little different, but it certainly didn't affect the tone of the last one, and I even liked how it looked. If it's any indicator of how nice it is, I talked to the guy I sold the guitar to, and he would not sell it back to me for $200 more than he paid for it. I can't explain how nice the upper fret access was... you could easily reach 24 no matter what angle you were holding the guitar at without bumping the horn. Why do you think so many shredders like V-shape guitars? You have a harder time of doing this

at 90-degrees when you have a lower horn, particularly if you have a larger hands.

TMM · 02-06-2008, 12:54 AM

... and so it begins.

skinhead · 02-06-2008, 06:21 AM

Please, leave it like that and ship it to me

I see you have guitarheads pickups there

Apophis · 02-06-2008, 08:23 AM

TMM · 02-06-2008, 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skinhead

Please, leave it like that and ship it to me

I see you have guitarheads pickups there

Yeah, they're on eBay right now. They're being replaced with a EMG 707/81-7 pair.

They weren't bad, but they weren't EMGs.

stubhead · 02-06-2008, 11:10 AM

The cosmetics of the lower horn is one issue - I'm a fan of weird guitars, the more the merrier. However, that headstock is just a bad idea. Seven strings are going to put a pull of at least 100 pounds on the neck, maybe more like 120. Think of holding that guitar pointing down on the floor, headstock down, and balancing a 120-lb. girl on top. Do you think anything bad might happen?

ZOMB13 · 02-06-2008, 11:48 AM

I'd say do it, since it helps upper fret access AND it makes people here flip out!

Makes me wonder how many people must of called Vai a lunatic for wanting to route a handle in his guitar...

canuck brian · 02-06-2008, 12:46 PM

There are budget Parkers that dont' use either carbon reinforcement or carbon on the headstock and it works just fine. Blackmachine does the same from what I saw on the website, but i see one piece headstocks.

That headstock, if you cut it, would probably take that tension. How many individual pieces of maple is that headstock though? Whats the grain pattern like? You could have a perfectly functional headstock but gently tapping it against something could be a disaster, especially while under all the string tension.

Advice - leave the headstock alone unless you are 100% that the headstock will take that tension.

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02-01-2008, 04:20 PM	#43 (permalink)
TMM Badass Mutha 4000 Join Date: May 2006 Location: NH, USA Posts: 831 Real Name: Tom Main Seven: KxK Sii-7 / AX7521BK Rig: Triumph60/V4-412/215 Thanked: 11	Hahaha wow, I didn't think there would be so much opposition to my removal of the lower horn. If anything I would have thought the shred-extraordinaires around here would applaud it! Anyway, I'm going to give it a shot by only doing an RC7G-style shave on the back of the horn and doing the refin first, and seeing what I think of it then. If it's still in the way at all I'll take the next step and remove it. Of course, I'll post pics in between too. I do understand that the removed horn looks a little different, but it certainly didn't affect the tone of the last one, and I even liked how it looked. If it's any indicator of how nice it is, I talked to the guy I sold the guitar to, and he would not sell it back to me for $200 more than he paid for it. I can't explain how nice the upper fret access was... you could easily reach 24 no matter what angle you were holding the guitar at without bumping the horn. Why do you think so many shredders like V-shape guitars? You have a harder time of doing this at 90-degrees when you have a lower horn, particularly if you have a larger hands. THEMAMMONMACHINE PUTRESCINE Dancing Darth

02-06-2008, 06:21 AM	#45 (permalink)
skinhead Manager / RHLC © Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Argentina Posts: 5,504 Real Name: Frank Main Seven: Ibanez Universe MC Main ERG: Soon Skin custom RG8 Rig: VENu Twin/Carvin2x12 Thanked: 43	Please, leave it like that and ship it to me I see you have guitarheads pickups there WTB Phonic Helix 24 mixer board Fuck US shipping only

02-06-2008, 11:10 AM	#48 (permalink)
stubhead Feral Buddha Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: MD Eastern Shore Posts: 341 Main Seven: Warmoth flat 7 Rig: Marshall, Boogie Thanked: 9	The cosmetics of the lower horn is one issue - I'm a fan of weird guitars, the more the merrier. However, that headstock is just a bad idea. Seven strings are going to put a pull of at least 100 pounds on the neck, maybe more like 120. Think of holding that guitar pointing down on the floor, headstock down, and balancing a 120-lb. girl on top. Do you think anything bad might happen? "I was not ever interested in the music of boys. From my youngest years, I was interested in the music of men." - Eric Clapton

02-06-2008, 12:46 PM	#50 (permalink)
canuck brian Shred from the North Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Toronto Posts: 980 Main Seven: Bowes Guitars BBRG-7 Main ERG: Bowes Guitars BBNB-8 Rig: PodXTPVelocity>Doyle Thanked: 24 $canuck brian is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $canuck brian is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $canuck brian is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $canuck brian is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $canuck brian is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $canuck brian is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $canuck brian is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$	There are budget Parkers that dont' use either carbon reinforcement or carbon on the headstock and it works just fine. Blackmachine does the same from what I saw on the website, but i see one piece headstocks. That headstock, if you cut it, would probably take that tension. How many individual pieces of maple is that headstock though? Whats the grain pattern like? You could have a perfectly functional headstock but gently tapping it against something could be a disaster, especially while under all the string tension. Advice - leave the headstock alone unless you are 100% that the headstock will take that tension. My Builds: Mahogany Carvetop 6 7 String Zebrawood/Padouk 7 String Wenge Carvetop 8 String Mahogany/Birdseye 4 String Ebony/Wenge Cap

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02-01-2008, 06:18 AM	#42 (permalink)
Apophis ROTER CUSTOM GUITARS Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Poland Posts: 8,875 Real Name: Sebastian Main Seven: I need more strings :) Main ERG: RCG 9 & 10 string Rig: Line6 Thanked: 46	Lower horn looks strange

02-06-2008, 08:23 AM	#46 (permalink)
Apophis ROTER CUSTOM GUITARS Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Poland Posts: 8,875 Real Name: Sebastian Main Seven: I need more strings :) Main ERG: RCG 9 & 10 string Rig: Line6 Thanked: 46

02-06-2008, 11:48 AM	#49 (permalink)
ZOMB13 ss.org Regular Join Date: May 2007 Location: San Diego, California Posts: 384 Real Name: ZOMB13 Main Seven: Ibanez RG7321 Custom Rig: Ibanez TBX150H Thanked: 10	I'd say do it, since it helps upper fret access AND it makes people here flip out! Makes me wonder how many people must of called Vai a lunatic for wanting to route a handle in his guitar...

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