The new Stephen Carpenter Baritone 7

Digital Black · 10-15-2004, 08:13 PM

Had about an hour's time with it at Sam Ash through a peavey XXL and a Marshall DSL. Man I would not shell out 850 bucks for this thing. I know it's a neck through, but the width is massive. It's like holding a baseball bat. The tone from this thing was way too dark and bassy. I couldn't even get a decent clean tone. The emg's are real close to the bridge and there wasn't too much difference between them tonally.
ESP definatly designed this thing for 1 finger nu metal riffs, I don't think you could do much else-of course that's SC's forte'.
You wouldn't have to double track rhytem guitars with this puppy..

No thanks I'll pass. I forsee lot's of these axes going cheep on ebay in a few years as kids get tired of it.

Just my 2 cents............................................. ........................................

Vince · 10-15-2004, 09:59 PM

I haven't tried it myself, but I must say ESP's 7 strings are a few notches below the Ibanez 7s, for sure.

Donnie · 10-15-2004, 11:43 PM

Right on. I've haven't read any first hand reviews on this guitar.
Looks like I won't be picking up one of these anytime soon.

nabeelm · 10-16-2004, 06:58 PM

great forum u guys have here.I have an ESP(ltd)mf 207 which is the same as f 207.It looks great but i can safely say that esp 7's are a few notches below ibanez 7(i bought a sweet rg1527).Specially when it comes to playability

Metal Ken · 10-16-2004, 07:31 PM

nice cat. LOL
Welcome aboard;p

AS far as the SC Guitar, i havent played one, but i wouldnt mind it. I Cant STAND That inlay though. The thing that bothers me : No neck pickup, and no floating bridge. I want a Ibanez w/ a 27" scale neck..thats affordable (like 7421XL). But has a floating bridge (Thats the 1077XL right?) but i either cant find them or they're expensive. Not like i can buy one right now anyway. I still am waiting for my universe to get here/

Vince · 10-16-2004, 07:37 PM

nabeelm, welcome to the board!! That ESP guitar is sweet looking. I downloaded it off of jemsite the other day when you posted it there. I like keeping pics of exotic guitars. Stay and chat a while, we need more numbers here!

Digital Black · 10-17-2004, 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nabeelm

great forum u guys have here.I have an ESP(ltd)mf 207 which is the same as f 207.It looks great but i can safely say that esp 7's are a few notches below ibanez 7(i bought a sweet rg1527).Specially when it comes to playability

here are a few pics
http://www.geocities.com/mehwishehsan/espmf207.jpg

http://www.geocities.com/mehwishehsan/cat1527.jpg

btw dont mind my cat he's just trying to make himself feel important.

I would agree with that comparison of ESP VS Ibanez-Ibby's are better.
I owned the 6 string version of that ESP , the F-200. It had EMG-hz's. I got rid of that axe pretty quick. It just didn't play as well...

Metal Ken · 10-17-2004, 03:08 PM

I played a F207 once. i actually thought it was pretty decent. I still prefer my Ibanezes though.

Drew · 10-18-2004, 09:16 AM

I LOVE the looks of those ESP F-series 7's.... More so in the red and silver than in the black, but still... and I'm so NOT a goth metal guitarist, but man, how could you NOT feel evil with one of those slung on?

jacksonplayer · 10-18-2004, 11:14 PM

I played an LTD SC baritone the other day at a used guitar store, though I didn't plug it in. It was ok, but the unamplified tone seemed very thin and non-resonant, which usually means it's going to sound like ass when plugged in, even with EMGs.

The neck on the one I played didn't seem overly large, but I just can't play good leads on a 27" instrument--the strings seem too taut to get a nice grip on for my purposes. Also, the long scale might just give you too much low end--you don't want to intrude on the bass player, after all.

10-15-2004, 08:13 PM	#1
Digital Black Divinitus Infallibilis • Super Moderator • Join Date: May 2004 Location: Cleveland , Ohio Posts: 5,323 Real Name: Lord Andrew Main Seven: 2005 Ibanez RG1527BLK Rig: Rocktron + rack gear Thanked: 19	The new Stephen Carpenter Baritone 7 Had about an hour's time with it at Sam Ash through a peavey XXL and a Marshall DSL. Man I would not shell out 850 bucks for this thing. I know it's a neck through, but the width is massive. It's like holding a baseball bat. The tone from this thing was way too dark and bassy. I couldn't even get a decent clean tone. The emg's are real close to the bridge and there wasn't too much difference between them tonally. ESP definatly designed this thing for 1 finger nu metal riffs, I don't think you could do much else-of course that's SC's forte'. You wouldn't have to double track rhytem guitars with this puppy.. No thanks I'll pass. I forsee lot's of these axes going cheep on ebay in a few years as kids get tired of it. Just my 2 cents............................................. ........................................ Born of Fire//--\\ Consumed by it Divinitus Infallibilis

10-15-2004, 11:43 PM	#3
Donnie Go Team Venture! Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Bonney Lake, WA. Posts: 4,322 Main Seven: Ibanez Xiphos 7 Rig: Line 6 Vetta/Nomad55 Thanked: 11	Right on. I've haven't read any first hand reviews on this guitar. Looks like I won't be picking up one of these anytime soon. Charlie Drown @ Myspace Charlie Drown.com Buy-Band-Tshirts.com

10-16-2004, 07:31 PM	#5
Metal Ken Dissident Aggressor • Super Moderator • Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Florida Posts: 16,305 Real Name: Legion Main Seven: Loomis, C7HR, Giannini 7 Rig: Mesa Rectoverb 50 Thanked: 72	nice cat. LOL Welcome aboard;p AS far as the SC Guitar, i havent played one, but i wouldnt mind it. I Cant STAND That inlay though. The thing that bothers me : No neck pickup, and no floating bridge. I want a Ibanez w/ a 27" scale neck..thats affordable (like 7421XL). But has a floating bridge (Thats the 1077XL right?) but i either cant find them or they're expensive. Not like i can buy one right now anyway. I still am waiting for my universe to get here/ Glory and praise to Thee, Satan, on high, Where Thou didst reign, in Hell where Thou dost lie, Vanquished, silent, dreaming eternally. Grant that my soul some day rest close to Thee Under the Tree of Knowledge which shall spread Its branches like a Temple overhead. ~Charles Baudelaire http://www.myspace.com/impurity Brutal Skullfucking Death Metal

10-18-2004, 09:16 AM	#9
Drew Fear the Polo! Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Somerville, MA Posts: 21,267 Real Name: Call me Ahab... Main Seven: 1991 Ibanez UV7PWH Main ERG: Sherman 5-string bass Rig: Mesa Recto-verb 50 Thanked: 141	I LOVE the looks of those ESP F-series 7's.... More so in the red and silver than in the black, but still... and I'm so NOT a goth metal guitarist, but man, how could you NOT feel evil with one of those slung on? "...and everything under the sun is in tune, but the sun is eclipsed by the moon."

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10-15-2004, 09:59 PM	#2
Vince Vince is X!!! • Super Moderator • Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Tempe, AZ Posts: 5,610 Real Name: Vince Main Seven: Ibanez Rig: Rocktron / Mesa Thanked: 112	I haven't tried it myself, but I must say ESP's 7 strings are a few notches below the Ibanez 7s, for sure.

10-16-2004, 06:58 PM	#4
nabeelm ss.org Regular Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: karachi.pakistan Posts: 16 Main Seven: 2003Ibanez RG1527 Thanked: 0	great forum u guys have here.I have an ESP(ltd)mf 207 which is the same as f 207.It looks great but i can safely say that esp 7's are a few notches below ibanez 7(i bought a sweet rg1527).Specially when it comes to playability

10-16-2004, 07:37 PM	#6
Vince Vince is X!!! • Super Moderator • Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Tempe, AZ Posts: 5,610 Real Name: Vince Main Seven: Ibanez Rig: Rocktron / Mesa Thanked: 112	nabeelm, welcome to the board!! That ESP guitar is sweet looking. I downloaded it off of jemsite the other day when you posted it there. I like keeping pics of exotic guitars. Stay and chat a while, we need more numbers here!

10-17-2004, 03:08 PM	#8
Metal Ken Dissident Aggressor • Super Moderator • Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Florida Posts: 16,305 Real Name: Legion Main Seven: Loomis, C7HR, Giannini 7 Rig: Mesa Rectoverb 50 Thanked: 72	I played a F207 once. i actually thought it was pretty decent. I still prefer my Ibanezes though.

10-18-2004, 11:14 PM	#10
jacksonplayer New album out now! Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 3,759 Real Name: Chris Main Seven: Jackson CS Stealth-7 Rig: Fractal Audio Axe-FX Thanked: 19	I played an LTD SC baritone the other day at a used guitar store, though I didn't plug it in. It was ok, but the unamplified tone seemed very thin and non-resonant, which usually means it's going to sound like ass when plugged in, even with EMGs. The neck on the one I played didn't seem overly large, but I just can't play good leads on a 27" instrument--the strings seem too taut to get a nice grip on for my purposes. Also, the long scale might just give you too much low end--you don't want to intrude on the bass player, after all.

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