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Rotten Deadite · 10-09-2007, 09:05 PM

Yeah, the more I look into this the more I think a used Schecter might be a less expensive option. Thanks for the advice, guys!

bostjan · 10-09-2007, 09:14 PM

For G# tunings, I'd highly reccomend at least a 28" scale. I don't think the Schecter is going to be much better than what you have.

If you can get a 28.625" neck, that'd be the way to go. The longer the scale, the better.

Why G#, BTW?

Xtremevillan · 10-09-2007, 09:54 PM

Once again, get an Agile. They're cheap and great.

Look at the Agile Interceptor if you need a good 27".

wretchedspawn · 10-09-2007, 10:38 PM

My Blackjack does just fine in G#. I guess it all depends on how you have it set up?

MerlinTKD · 10-09-2007, 11:20 PM

I have an M-207, and I ran into the same problem. It intonates smooth as silk in standard, but anything lower is mostly useless. I tuned to drop-A, and with a enough string, the A finally intonated waaay back in the range. Nothing lower will ever work though, I think. Not the way these guitars are built.

Don't get me wrong, I love my guitar! It's just limited in the detuning area.

DO check out the Agiles, the more I see and hear, the better they look and sound! FYI, the Schecter necks are going to be a bit heftier than the LTD, whereas Ibanez necks are a bit thinner.

Rotten Deadite · 10-09-2007, 11:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bostjan

For G# tunings, I'd highly reccomend at least a 28" scale. I don't think the Schecter is going to be much better than what you have.

If you can get a 28.625" neck, that'd be the way to go. The longer the scale, the better.

Why G#, BTW?

I don't think I have a good answer for that. The band I used to play with played in C# on six strings, and my Jackson Kelly has no problem with that, so I guess I've been trying to get into that area.

Honestly I know the ESP's probably cut out to do A at the lowest, but it just doesn't quite seem low enough. I'd probably be working in G if I had a guitar that could handle it. Maybe I'll pop it back up to A and see how I like it... Anything lower than G# and power chords start to sound kinda funny.

Still, being in the same tuning as Korn makes me feel a little cheezy

bostjan · 10-10-2007, 12:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rotten Deadite

I don't think I have a good answer for that. The band I used to play with played in C# on six strings, and my Jackson Kelly has no problem with that, so I guess I've been trying to get into that area.

Honestly I know the ESP's probably cut out to do A at the lowest, but it just doesn't quite seem low enough. I'd probably be working in G if I had a guitar that could handle it. Maybe I'll pop it back up to A and see how I like it... Anything lower than G# and power chords start to sound kinda funny.

Still, being in the same tuning as Korn makes me feel a little cheezy

Ahh, I see. Maybe you could tune the six bass strings to C# and add a high F#? Then get either the Interceptor or a 28.625" guitar to tune lower?

Mmm cheesy corn.

Metal Ken · 10-10-2007, 12:28 AM

Tuning with a high string = amazing for chords.

Rotten Deadite · 10-10-2007, 04:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bostjan

Ahh, I see. Maybe you could tune the six bass strings to C# and add a high F#? Then get either the Interceptor or a 28.625" guitar to tune lower?

Mmm cheesy corn.

Oh sure, that'd be a great idea if I were, you know, awesome.

I am however only some jackass with a PC and time on his hands, so my no-talent ass is going to stick with the more traditional, if highly detuned, setups.

In the meantime, I yanked the ESP back up to A today and I'm having it sit in the corner and let the tremolo think about the consequences of its actions. I'll fool around with it tomorrow, but I suspect I might freak out and do a drop-G tuning Tony Danza style.

I will also add: it's nice to have the top 6 strings in D tuning, 'cause it makes it a little easier to learn all those Death, Slayer and Lamb of God covers my drummer wants to do.

Xtremevillan · 10-10-2007, 08:54 PM

I am glad you said Death. I love D-standard tuning.

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10-09-2007, 09:05 PM	#11 (permalink)
Rotten Deadite doesn't know wtf Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Atlanta although I'm from New Orleans. Posts: 50 Main Seven: ESP M207 that doesn't act right. Rig: GSP2101 to 4x12@200w Thanked: 0	Yeah, the more I look into this the more I think a used Schecter might be a less expensive option. Thanks for the advice, guys!

10-09-2007, 09:54 PM	#13 (permalink)
Xtremevillan So negrep me already Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Long Island, NY. Posts: 2,900 Real Name: Neal Main Seven: 6string-Caparison TAT II Rig: Triple Rec>Vader 212 Thanked: 28	Once again, get an Agile. They're cheap and great. Look at the Agile Interceptor if you need a good 27".

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wretchedspawn Conquering theThrone Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Prince George, VA Posts: 180 Real Name: Garret Main Seven: Schecter C-7 Blackjack Rig: Shitty Line6>4x12 Thanked: 2	My Blackjack does just fine in G#. I guess it all depends on how you have it set up?

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Xtremevillan So negrep me already Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Long Island, NY. Posts: 2,900 Real Name: Neal Main Seven: 6string-Caparison TAT II Rig: Triple Rec>Vader 212 Thanked: 28	I am glad you said Death. I love D-standard tuning.


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