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Old 09-01-2007, 12:16 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Prestige vs non prestige

I get asked a lot, "what does ibanez prestige mean?"
That important word, prestige. Does it mean "add £100+ to the price" or does it mean "prestige quality"?

By using a Prestige RG1527 and a non prestige, Korean Jem 555 (1999), i will try to show you some finer details that in my opinion, warrant the price jump.
i will not be comparing pickups due to them being swapped out almost always on prestige and non prestige models by the owners.


So most of the time you hear its the neck, its the fretwork or its the neck joint.
Which is the right answer? ALL!

Here are pics of the Jems fretwork, you will notice that the fret ends are slightly exposed with ibanez cutting through the whole fret length to install the frets.
This, in changing weather, can cause sharp fret ends that hurt your hands, or slight gaps where dirt builds up.
These pics pics show the latter with open fret ends.


Here are pics of the rg1527's fretwork. Its obvious that fret ends dont exist!
they have removed the tang from the fret and made it so that the fret ends are not open, like you would experience if a guitar had binding.


Next up, the necks!
Here is the Jem 555's neck joint, neck and headstock.
Its visible the neck is one piece, ibanez tuners and a close, flatter heel




The next pics show the RG's heel, heatstock and neck.
The neck is 5 piece which adds some stability aswell as being more environmentally friendly. The headstock features GOTOH tuners, great stable and accurate.
Gotoh is the same company who make the edge, edge pro, lo pro etc. bridges.
You can also see that the heel is slightly more shaped.




Finish?
Yes, thats slightl different!
Both were finished with a high gloss that shines up fantastic!

But both have thier flaws IMO.
the Prestige finish chips way way to easily, where as my korean jems finish hasnt chipped at all. Infact, here you can see rather large dings i put in the body but the finish has stayed!

Below is the RG chip that i have filled in, but you can see that the finish came off clean if you look around the edges


Bridges
Obviously there is a big difference here.
Prestige use the Edge pro or double Edge model which is favoured highly above the non prestige Lotrs, LotrsII, Edge III and Edge II.

Somthing extra!
Now this hasnt been mentioned before, but i think it needs an applause from Ibanez!
Upon looking at my electronics in the prestige, i noticed somthing...

Can you see it? the lip where the plate goes in isnt square...infact its sloped!
Uh oh...so how does the plate fit?!

The edge of the plate is sloped too!
So when you have taken screws out and your fiddling with your korean Ibanez trying to pry the plate off, the prestige user can SLIDE his off, yes..it jsut slides.

Here is a pic of the square fit that hte MIK jem has



So i hope i have cleared a few things up here..a few things that warrant that "Prestige" name in my honest opinion.

Thanks for reading!
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Old 09-01-2007, 12:29 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Old 09-01-2007, 01:06 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I agree on all points.

One thing I'm going to mention which I thing is worth of talking about is that the older Prestige models were slightly better quality than what is coming out nowadays. My RG1527 has several chips in the pain so far just like yours, from very tiny bumps on things that shouldn't chip a guitar at all. However, my RG3120 from 2001 has only a few chips from serious hits, while the normal bangs and stuff left nothing. Also, they used better electronics and pickups on my older guitar as well.

Good post though, very informative.
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Old 09-01-2007, 01:09 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Gotoh is the same company who make the edge, edge pro, lo pro etc. bridges.
Pretty sure Gotoh doent make these bridges - Ibanez does. Gotoh makes aftermarket Floyds.
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Old 09-01-2007, 01:31 PM   #5 (permalink)
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gotoh makes the ibanez fr's im sure


thanks noodleface, yeah..they chip easy
didnt you add new pups to yours?
mind PM'ing me a mini review of those pups in it please?
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gotoh makes the ibanez fr's im sure
Proof or it never happened.
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edge pro made by gotoh - Google Search

read the snippets in for the links mate
gotoh makes them.
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edge pro made by gotoh - Google Search

read the snippets in for the links mate
gotoh makes them.
I only found 1 guy saying Gotoh makes them. Thats not a reliable source.
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from the ibanez forum, if he was incorrect, ibanez mod's would have corrected him.
trust me
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from the ibanez forum, if he was incorrect, ibanez mod's would have corrected him.
trust me

I wouldnt trust them over at the ibanez forum, but you are right. The trems are made by Gotoh.


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