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Old 10-25-2007, 11:48 AM   #51
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The neck is almost stright, bent just a bit to match a ringing string, and is not twisted at all. The neck looks perfect. And there's no buzz. The string itself sounds like this. Fuck it.
What also seems strange to me is that i have to tune the 7th string 7-10 cents lower than B for it to be in tune with 6th string...

Someone please help me to get to the bottom of it!

I'd like to ask you guys to record short samples of how your lowest power cord sounds. If it's possible please record a sustained low b (or whatever it is) on 2 strings directly into soundcard (or through amp, but it seems to me this it makes difference) picked hard enought, without no muting or stuff. I'd be very very thankful to you!

fuck. up.

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Old 04-03-2008, 05:56 PM   #52
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Back to this shit now. Pretty much time has passed, but I still didn't solve this.
Well, I though I did when I got a pair of knucklehead shortbus 11-62 sets. It's 7th is the string that has the least of what I'm talking about here (it turned out, that it was because it was the dullest sounding and had less overtones, thus it was usable). So I thought that the problem was the string tension, and then thought that a thicker string was going to be the solution. But then I tried 64, 65, 66, 68 of different brands and it all was the same. The 7th string sounds tremendously different from the other ones. The low B power chord is absolutely objectionable sounding. Fretted chords sound a bit better, bit still with a lot of chaotic beating. Single notes on the 7th sound even worse. What's interesting is that when the string is just slightly palm muted none of this modulation remains. I can even get clear natural harmonics with the string muted and they sound ok. But when the sting is free any note sounds like clatter, unpleasant and uninspiring.

It seems to me that this guy’s ibby has a bit of the same thing:

but in my situation there’s much more dirt on the seventh.

I really should say that when I play some faster riffs with lots of palm muting it’s tolerable. But I really do need sustained chords and notes for the music I play. And anytime I take the guitar I start turning the tuner here and there (despite I know that it in vain) instead of just playing. I’m desperate. There are too many sevenstringers and downtuners who seem not to have anything of that sort.

Maybe someone here has found out anything on this topc?
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Old 04-03-2008, 07:44 PM   #53
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just sounds like the guy in that video is possibly using light strings and fretting too hard... overall it doesn't really sound abnormal to me. i was reading through the rest of your that you're striving for. that vid you posted doesn't sound drastically different to me .
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Old 04-04-2008, 01:07 AM   #54
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have you tried putting shims under the saddles?
and if its a locking nut, try using a small shim under the nut....

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Old 04-04-2008, 09:14 AM   #56
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Adjust intonation (thruss rod)
The truss rod does not control intonation. It controls neck relief (the amount of forward/backward bow in the neck).

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Adjust scale lenght (microtuning on your bridge)
This is intonation.

It sounds to me like it's primarily an intonation issue. What kind of tuner are you using to set your intonation?

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Old 04-04-2008, 09:27 AM   #57
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that vid you posted doesn't sound drastically different to me
Well, yes. It has just a little bit of what i am experiencing

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have you tried putting shims under the saddles?
and if its a locking nut, try using a small shim under the nut....
That is interesting! Mine is a fixed bridge mode, no locking nut, but the bridge is most likely to be the culprit. If it's not, I am absolutely at a loss. What would you recommend to make the shim of?

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Due your example-there is all ok (too dark to my taste-with so low tunings-your sound WILL be muddy in all cases),with line-in sound,and processed soud is awful-but-it's not a guitar,but-amplifier/recording fault.
In youtube video-same thing.This guy just can't adjust really good low tone from his amp.
All,that you can do with your guitar,are next things:
Adjust string height over your nut and over bridge
Adjust intonation (thruss rod)
Adjust scale lenght (microtuning on your bridge)
Adjust pickups height
Adjust string spacing (also nut and bridge adjustments)
Well-that's all.
Plus-you can change your strings (DR for example-are great strings,and D'Addarios in russia-opposite-are chinese shit-stay away from them!)
And-you can put small amount of a graphite oil in a sting saddles in your nut.
Thats all.
All other things,that you can do,to impove your tone-didnt belong to your guitar problem,but-to your technique (hit string not so hard),and-to your processing (shitty combo etc etc)

And-plus. Forget about "korn do this,korn do that".
Korn-do nothing.All sound,that you hear on their recordings-it's not sound of their great equipment,but-sound of their good sound-engineer's work.
You can play on "Ural" guitar,but-if you spend ton of bucks for a good production-you will sound better,than 2001's Dimmu Borgir.
Bro, I really appreciate your care but if you read the whole topic carefully, you'll find out that I’ve had enough experiments with tuning and adjusting the guitar. I have tried every possible way, even absolutely unusable ones, just to be sure. Believe me, after more than 7 years of playing and dealing with guitars, I know how to set one up. And I have fuckin changed the strings so many times.
I also told that neither my picking technique nor rig nor recording is the reason. It is out of the question that it is an acoustic problem. The way the string itself rings is false. As for korn, I name it just because it's the best example of using 25.5 scale sevens and playing low sustained chords and notes without no wobbling and shit! And don't tell me that it's the sound-engineer's work. No production can fix a beating and shitty and hollow sounding string in a chord... Another point, to entirely clear up with korn, is that I’ve heared/seen some rare tracks/demos/bootlegs and stuff and they just don't have the thing that I’m talking 'bout.
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Old 04-04-2008, 10:06 AM   #59
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It sounds to me like it's primarily an intonation issue. What kind of tuner are you using to set your intonation?
I tried setting the saddle in every possible position. Intonation is not the poblem for sure.

btw, i came across this:7 string PROBLEM @ Ultimate-Guitar.Com Forum

Judging by the description, the guy had exactly the same problem...
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