Hellraiser or Loomis sig

RearyGay · 07-13-2007, 02:50 PM

I'm looking to get my first 7, and I've narrowed the choices down to 2 gutiars, the Hellraiser and the Loomis model. I know that the Hellraiser sounds pretty killer but it doesn't have a trem, which I would like very much, but it has a rosewood fretboard (which is not a problem, I just prefer the look of ebony's). On the other hand, I've never played the Loomis model, and I don't know how an Ash body with a Maple neck sounds. But it DOES have a trem (OFR at that) and the maple board is very sexy. But the Loomis costs about $200 more.

I'm going for that really heavy, Nevermore like sound. If you want to take my gear into consideration, I have a VHT Pittbull Fifty/CL 50W head, with VHT 4x12 and 2x12 cabs.

Thanks for the replies.

Imperium · 07-13-2007, 03:00 PM

Well man the Hellraiser is an all Mahogany guitar with a rosewood fretboard. Now i havent played it in person but to me that means a really thick warm sound. There are plenty of dudes on here with a Hellraiser so they can probably comment better.

Like you said with the Loomis its an Ash and Maple combination. To me that gives me the impression of a really clear sound but not thin.

They are really 2 different beasts man. I would go with the one with the options that suits you best.

Metal Ken · 07-13-2007, 03:21 PM

Well, if you're going for the recorded on past records nevermore sound, i believe jeff used a hellraiser on the last one, and he's used EMG equipped schecters and LTD's since around Dead Heart times. All of which had mahogany bodies if i recall...

Leon · 07-13-2007, 09:52 PM

i'd go for the Loomis, but then, i like a guitar with a trem.

Plaschkes · 07-13-2007, 11:37 PM

The Loomis is very... Well, Loomisy in sound, it carries a lot of punch and clarity and the lead work can still get fat and smooth if you want it on the neck pickup. However, it is a tad lacking in warmth to get that real chunkey Loomis sound in the rythem department, but it is still very close and very full, and sounds awesome, I'm very pleased with it, for Nevermore sound and beyond.

Pablo · 07-13-2007, 11:55 PM

To me, the Loomis would most definitely be worth the extra $200... Basically because I prefer brighter sounding guitars as it is easier to dial out excessive brightness than dialing in definition.

Other than that: You want a Floyd - the Loomis got a Floyd.

Cheers

Eske

axechain · 07-14-2007, 08:28 AM

i would go with Hellraiser, but if you whant a trem there`s a loomis model for you then.

kherman · 07-14-2007, 12:37 PM

I would choose the Loomis.
Floyd Rose baby!

Ash is a medium tone wood.
A very nice wood.
A lot of great Strats were made of Ash.

TheMissing · 07-14-2007, 12:42 PM

I loved the Loomis model, and I'm not a big fan of 7-string trems!

My favorite feature is the all maple neck.

I was thinking of putting a warmoth all maple neck on my Schecter.

They're both REALLY nice instruments though.

MrSandMan · 07-14-2007, 01:24 PM

Hellraiser

07-13-2007, 02:50 PM	#1
RearyGay ss.org Regular Join Date: May 2007 Location: New Orleans, Louisiana Posts: 7 Thanked: 0	Hellraiser or Loomis sig I'm looking to get my first 7, and I've narrowed the choices down to 2 gutiars, the Hellraiser and the Loomis model. I know that the Hellraiser sounds pretty killer but it doesn't have a trem, which I would like very much, but it has a rosewood fretboard (which is not a problem, I just prefer the look of ebony's). On the other hand, I've never played the Loomis model, and I don't know how an Ash body with a Maple neck sounds. But it DOES have a trem (OFR at that) and the maple board is very sexy. But the Loomis costs about $200 more. I'm going for that really heavy, Nevermore like sound. If you want to take my gear into consideration, I have a VHT Pittbull Fifty/CL 50W head, with VHT 4x12 and 2x12 cabs. Thanks for the replies.

07-13-2007, 03:21 PM	#3
Metal Ken Dissident Aggressor • Super Moderator • Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Florida Posts: 16,452 Real Name: Legion Main Seven: Loomis, C7HR, Giannini 7 Rig: Mesa Rectoverb 50 Thanked: 73	Well, if you're going for the recorded on past records nevermore sound, i believe jeff used a hellraiser on the last one, and he's used EMG equipped schecters and LTD's since around Dead Heart times. All of which had mahogany bodies if i recall... Almighty asmodeus, existant of chaos Ominous be thy name Thy kingdom come on earth Lead me into all temptation of my flesh So I may trespass greatly into Thy ways by my desires ~Fornicatus Benefictus http://www.myspace.com/impurity Brutal Skullfucking Death Metal

07-13-2007, 09:52 PM	#4
Leon {##[====:::. • Super Moderator • Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: The Ohio Crew Posts: 11,750 Main Seven: RG7620 of Doom Rig: Mesa / Sovtek Thanked: 78	i'd go for the Loomis, but then, i like a guitar with a trem. I have a radical idea. The door swings both ways, we could reverse the particle flow through the gate. We'll cross the streams.

07-13-2007, 11:55 PM	#6
Pablo Resident Wanker Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Aarhus, Denmark Posts: 784 Real Name: Eske Main Seven: Ibanez HRG7 / Carvin 727C Rig: Diezel VH-4s Thanked: 2	To me, the Loomis would most definitely be worth the extra $200... Basically because I prefer brighter sounding guitars as it is easier to dial out excessive brightness than dialing in definition. Other than that: You want a Floyd - the Loomis got a Floyd. Cheers Eske "Do be do be do" - Frank Sinatra

07-14-2007, 08:28 AM	#7
axechain ByoSeven Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Estonia Posts: 119 Real Name: Oleg Main Seven: Schecter C7 Hellraiser Main ERG: a trossrod on a stick Rig: Carvin Legacy->2X12 Thanked: 2 / 1	i would go with Hellraiser, but if you whant a trem there`s a loomis model for you then. www.myspace.com/byoaxe www.myspace.com/byolence

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07-13-2007, 03:00 PM	#2
Imperium ss.org Regular Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 154 Real Name: Rhys Main Seven: Schecter 007 Elite Rig: H&K SB -> Orange 412 Thanked: 5	Well man the Hellraiser is an all Mahogany guitar with a rosewood fretboard. Now i havent played it in person but to me that means a really thick warm sound. There are plenty of dudes on here with a Hellraiser so they can probably comment better. Like you said with the Loomis its an Ash and Maple combination. To me that gives me the impression of a really clear sound but not thin. They are really 2 different beasts man. I would go with the one with the options that suits you best.

07-13-2007, 11:37 PM	#5
Plaschkes Israely 7 stringer Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Israel Posts: 276 Real Name: Amit Main Seven: JP7 Main ERG: Ibanez RG2228 Rig: Mesa Rectoverb head Thanked: 4	The Loomis is very... Well, Loomisy in sound, it carries a lot of punch and clarity and the lead work can still get fat and smooth if you want it on the neck pickup. However, it is a tad lacking in warmth to get that real chunkey Loomis sound in the rythem department, but it is still very close and very full, and sounds awesome, I'm very pleased with it, for Nevermore sound and beyond.

07-14-2007, 12:37 PM	#8
kherman ss.org Regular Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Franklin, WI. Posts: 278 Real Name: Kent Main Seven: Carvin DC727c Rig: Rocktron piranha pre Thanked: 5	I would choose the Loomis. Floyd Rose baby! Ash is a medium tone wood. A very nice wood. A lot of great Strats were made of Ash. www.unicornrecords.com

07-14-2007, 12:42 PM	#9
TheMissing Sugar Bush Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: South Jersey Posts: 5,657 Real Name: Chris Main Seven: Schecter Gryphon7 (W/BKP) Rig: 5150 II-Swamp Thangs Thanked: 192	I loved the Loomis model, and I'm not a big fan of 7-string trems! My favorite feature is the all maple neck. I was thinking of putting a warmoth all maple neck on my Schecter. They're both REALLY nice instruments though. You shake your ass but you're already dead.

07-14-2007, 01:24 PM	#10
MrSandMan Banned Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Big Rapids, Michigan Posts: 11 Real Name: Charlie Main Seven: Anything Ibanez & Schecte Rig: HD147 -> Mesa Recto Thanked: 0	Hellraiser

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