Schecter 007 Elite vs. Ibanez Necks

dav2321 · 09-10-2005, 04:35 AM

I have both the IBZ 7421 and the C 7 Blackjack. While the C 7 is overall a better instrument the Ibz has the better neck (IMHO). The C 7 has a thicker neck and access to the upper frets is hampered by the thick cutout. I also tune B-E ,so the extended scale of the C7 puts more tension on the strings making it harder on the hands after extended playing time. If your a shredder I would lean toward the IBZ, drop riff chunk-C7. One notable exception-Jeff Loomis. He rips on his C7/Hellraiser but then again I'm betting he dosent tune B-E.

jacksonplayer · 09-10-2005, 12:51 PM

Nevermore tune a half-step down, I believe. I just got a C-7 Blackjack, and I can shred on it, though I also tune 1/2 step down. The strings definitely have more tension--I use 9-42+58 strings, and they feel like 10's on a regular guitar even though it's tuned down. But, wow, once you've gotten used to the feel of the guitar, fast runs are amazing--every note all over the neck has amazing clarity even with gobs of distortion. The downside of that is that any slop in your playing will be brutally exposed on a Blackjack. But that should just spur you to practice more!

As a 'Jackson guy', though, I prefer necks somewhat thicker than you'd find on an Ibanez. Ibanez guys might have more of a problem with the Schecter necks, though.

Metal Ken · 09-10-2005, 03:16 PM

Mine 007 BlackJack gets here tuesday. I'll let you guys know what i think when it gets here \m/
I will be tuning mine down 1 /2 step as well, w/ 9-56.

Jason · 09-10-2005, 11:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eleven59

207? M or H?

m i think

eleven59 · 09-11-2005, 12:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xtranscendedx

m i think

Ah cool. The M is the flat-top model, the H is archtop.

Jason · 09-11-2005, 03:38 PM

it was a flat-top with a ugly purple color.

eleven59 · 09-11-2005, 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xtranscendedx

it was a flat-top with a ugly purple color.

That's the M207 then for sure.

The Caracal · 10-16-2005, 08:04 AM

Hi everyone! I'm new to the forum, havn't got a seven yet but I'm looking forward to getting one...

My question then, I have been mailing with this guy about a schecter 007 elite that he's trying to sell me. The thing is, I really can't get a good reply from that guy.

My main question is if the neck are thick or not, as I said, can't get a good reply... Therefor I've been meaning to ask you if you have some measurements of the 007 elites neck. I usally play an Ibanez rg 1570, but frakly, the neck is sometimes a wee bit to thin, sometimes it's good though.

If you got measurements on other guitars as well, that would be appreciated too!

/Fredrik

09-10-2005, 03:16 PM	#23
Metal Ken Dissident Aggressor • Super Moderator • Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Florida Posts: 16,452 Real Name: Legion Main Seven: Loomis, C7HR, Giannini 7 Rig: Mesa Rectoverb 50 Thanked: 73	Mine 007 BlackJack gets here tuesday. I'll let you guys know what i think when it gets here \m/ I will be tuning mine down 1 /2 step as well, w/ 9-56. Almighty asmodeus, existant of chaos Ominous be thy name Thy kingdom come on earth Lead me into all temptation of my flesh So I may trespass greatly into Thy ways by my desires ~Fornicatus Benefictus http://www.myspace.com/impurity Brutal Skullfucking Death Metal

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09-10-2005, 04:35 AM	#21
dav2321 ss.org Regular Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Oregon Posts: 57 Main Seven: 2005 JP 7 Thanked: 0	I have both the IBZ 7421 and the C 7 Blackjack. While the C 7 is overall a better instrument the Ibz has the better neck (IMHO). The C 7 has a thicker neck and access to the upper frets is hampered by the thick cutout. I also tune B-E ,so the extended scale of the C7 puts more tension on the strings making it harder on the hands after extended playing time. If your a shredder I would lean toward the IBZ, drop riff chunk-C7. One notable exception-Jeff Loomis. He rips on his C7/Hellraiser but then again I'm betting he dosent tune B-E.

09-10-2005, 12:51 PM	#22
jacksonplayer The Fusion Guy! Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 3,861 Real Name: Chris Main Seven: KXK Sii-7 Rig: Fractal Audio Axe-FX Thanked: 21	Nevermore tune a half-step down, I believe. I just got a C-7 Blackjack, and I can shred on it, though I also tune 1/2 step down. The strings definitely have more tension--I use 9-42+58 strings, and they feel like 10's on a regular guitar even though it's tuned down. But, wow, once you've gotten used to the feel of the guitar, fast runs are amazing--every note all over the neck has amazing clarity even with gobs of distortion. The downside of that is that any slop in your playing will be brutally exposed on a Blackjack. But that should just spur you to practice more! As a 'Jackson guy', though, I prefer necks somewhat thicker than you'd find on an Ibanez. Ibanez guys might have more of a problem with the Schecter necks, though.

09-11-2005, 03:38 PM	#26
Jason Sign Your Neg Rep Posts! Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: South of the rats mouth.. Posts: 9,389 Real Name: Jason Main Seven: Esp/Ltd H207 :D Rig: Nadda Supreme Thanked: 79	it was a flat-top with a ugly purple color.

10-16-2005, 08:04 AM	#28
The Caracal ss.org Regular Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 9 Thanked: 0	Hi everyone! I'm new to the forum, havn't got a seven yet but I'm looking forward to getting one... My question then, I have been mailing with this guy about a schecter 007 elite that he's trying to sell me. The thing is, I really can't get a good reply from that guy. My main question is if the neck are thick or not, as I said, can't get a good reply... Therefor I've been meaning to ask you if you have some measurements of the 007 elites neck. I usally play an Ibanez rg 1570, but frakly, the neck is sometimes a wee bit to thin, sometimes it's good though. If you got measurements on other guitars as well, that would be appreciated too! /Fredrik


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