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Old 05-24-2007, 06:03 PM   #41
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Dude, that guy has a JP7, I think he knows what he's talking about...

The JP neck is very thin, although it's more round, which gives it a chunkier feeling, as oppoused to the flat Ibanez necks which feel thinner, but they are just a diffrent shape.

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well i have an ibanez at home and ive played various ibanez guitars... i can give it a couple of shots but bthe neck isnt as thin as the ibanez wizard 1 prestige.
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Old 05-24-2007, 06:06 PM   #42
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You have an S. It's a very diffrent neck profile.
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Old 05-24-2007, 06:13 PM   #43
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the neck is much thinner than the petrucci... the petrucci neck isnt thin at all... you can the thickness on every video... its ultra thin, i think its thin as the wizard prestige 1 if not more.
3 steps:
1. the cut away gives you better access to the higher frets.
2. the body is sculpted, so you wont ever be bothered by the cody when you are playing.
3.the neck joint is really low so again, much easier on higher frets.
* a fact - since ibanez dont make anymore wizard 1 necks(except for that ugly jem 20th) the neck suppouse to be the thinnest neck on the market today.
i saw the video... what do you mean by saying its painted? painted in black? i saw the video and it looks like wood to me.
Its weird that when you tried to type "body," you typed in my name instead Cody, how could you guess aaha

anyway. If you use your pinky to fret the 24th fret the cutaway on the JP7 or for that many any normal soloist body will not bother you. If you want the smallest neck joint you can get, then an Ibanez AANJ will work just as well as the Rusty Cooley one will, but even better would be the Framus 2 bolt style, or a neck through guitar. You should just bite the bullet and order a Carvin right now then, because you will get it before the Rusty is available (I would bet).
The only guitar that has ever bothered me on higher frets is the Gibsons with the massive set neck heel. Even old square bolt ons are no problem, if you can deal with rotating your fret hand a bit, but when you are standing up you are going to naturally rotate your hand a bit anyway at that point on the neck so it is never an issue.
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Old 05-24-2007, 06:20 PM   #44
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Its weird that when you tried to type "body," you typed in my name instead Cody, how could you guess aaha

anyway. If you use your pinky to fret the 24th fret the cutaway on the JP7 or for that many any normal soloist body will not bother you. If you want the smallest neck joint you can get, then an Ibanez AANJ will work just as well as the Rusty Cooley one will, but even better would be the Framus 2 bolt style, or a neck through guitar. You should just bite the bullet and order a Carvin right now then, because you will get it before the Rusty is available (I would bet).
The only guitar that has ever bothered me on higher frets is the Gibsons with the massive set neck heel. Even old square bolt ons are no problem, if you can deal with rotating your fret hand a bit, but when you are standing up you are going to naturally rotate your hand a bit anyway at that point on the neck so it is never an issue.
well the rusty cooley combines everything... im not sure how thin are the necks of carvin i cant see pics of them from the side.
too bad, i caught a great pic from the clip which shows how thin the neck is, and that its not painted or maybe i dont know what you mean, but i cant upload the pic for some reason.
for me a painted neck means that if the guitar is black so the neck is painted in black too... like in alot of jacksons and esp's.
i caught a clear pic from the warcry clip, the neck is in bright wood color.. cant see any paint job, maybe i mussunderstand you.

http://www.rustycooley.com/images/ru...namm2007-4.JPG

look here, at the left side of the neck near the body... you can see there alittle the back of the neck, which doesnt looks painted to me.

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You have an S. It's a very diffrent neck profile.
we are talking on thickness right now.
btw - i think that the neck profile of the petrucci bothered me more than its thickness... cause i played the loomis much better.

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Old 05-24-2007, 08:36 PM   #45
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It's kind of obvious you want the rc7, so I'd be going for that, as psychologically I'd bet you'd just buy something else and end up thinking "if only i'd bought the cooley"

Personally, I have small hands, and therefore do prefer thinner necks overall, and the square heel joints on old uv's doesn't bother me in the slightest. In fact, I'd pretty much put the old UV necks to be very thin overall, with a nice C shape, they are very good guitars. Problem is, you probably won't find one you can try out first, and comparing it to a new UV won't do the old neck profile justice as the newer ones have a thicker more D-shaped feel from what i remember.

Other than that, if you really have comfort issues, then I'd try going neckthrough, as that is pretty much the only way you'll get rid of any upper fret access and comfort issues.

On the J-Customs you'll also probably find that the necks aren't super thin on their 7's.

It seems to me that you're partially after a semi-boutique guitar in a way, either limited run, or hard to get signature.

As far as feel goes, you'll never know unless you play something to be honest, as you could even get the rc7 and then hate the way it feels.

But I honestly think you want an rc7, and in that case, just wait it out, as it's the only one you'll be satisfied with at the moment.

Painted necks aren't as bad as people make them out to be, they are a bit sticky when new, but with playing them, they smooth right out to the point where there really is no difference between it and an unfinished neck, and I've had a PRS and my LACS custom, both painted necks, and they are now just as quick, no "friction/stickiness" or "drag". In effect satin finished necks are my least favorite of all of them, and a neck that looks like it's unfinished may well have a satin finish to it, although that too ends up feeling fine with a bit of playing in.

Seriously, I haven't played a 78 with a thinner feeling neck than the old UV's (call me biased)

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Old 05-24-2007, 10:12 PM   #46
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You can get a nice old universe for less than that, and they are awesome guitars, same with used RG7620's and the like. Basically, for that amount of cash you can pretty much get whatever you want really!

But I would recommend the old UV's, they are nice, thin necks, built for going nuts on, plus they come with good pickups.



I think out of all my 7s, the UV7BK rules hands down. It is the best playing one IMO. I paid a little over a grand for my BK and almost 1500 for my PWH from Rich at Ibanez Rules, it was well worth it. They still play flawlessy.
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I think out of all my 7s, the UV7BK rules hands down. It is the best playing one IMO. I paid a little over a grand for my BK and almost 1500 for my PWH from Rich at Ibanez Rules, it was well worth it. They still play flawlessy.
Yep, have both of them as well, and they just still are awesome guitars!
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Old 05-25-2007, 04:59 AM   #48
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hmm.. yeah i want it, but if i would about another guitar with the same featrures but.. lets say with a floyd? i would forget about the cooley.
Btw - i asked kxk and he told me the thinnest he repolied "The thinnest I will go is .700" thick on the neck.".
what does that mean?

http://www.guitareelectrique.com/ima...andesrouge.jpg
that is a painted neck for me.
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Old 05-25-2007, 08:41 AM   #49
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KXK, Mike Sherman, Carvin or Jim Soloway. I think those are the best options for your money if you're really set on spending 1700-1800 on a guitar. Plus it's always better to get something made to your specs.
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Old 05-25-2007, 10:23 AM   #50
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what is so special with kxk btw? i know they should be one of the best guitars option(at least the type im after).
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