[nikt]

I didn't like my JPMs 6 when I had them and the neck wasn't comfortable for me at all (but I have very long fingers) ,I prefere tha neck joint of a Silhouette Special model, the string spacing was to narow for me,satin finish on my black LACS is better and the maple on neck was very poor IMO.

I would like to check out the JPM7 but I think NOW that this guitar is overpriced.

so as You see this isn't guitar for everybody and not everyone will like it.

One thing that I think is for sure awsome is the cut on the side of the body that let Your arm rest and not touch the contour of the body. That's comfortable as hell!!!

[trippled]

Originally Posted by sakeido

The Petrucci isn't comfortable? What in the unholy hell are you talking about? That is the most comfortable guitar I have ever played. The comfort cuts are perfect and the bridge is so smooth on the hand. The pickups are great, the neck is great and smooth, the frets are perfect, and the lead sound you get from the bridge pickup is the best I've ever heard myself.. definitely Holdsworthy.
The RC7 on the other hand, has an ebony board (way brighter tone), standard Ibanez style comfort cuts and then a ridiculously carved out horn, painted neck (sticky and slow), a cheap trem, no piezos, and 707s.
I dunno man, but if you want to play jazz, 707s are NOT what you are looking for. You can certainly play the same notes a jazz guy would play, but a lot of that stuff depends on dynamics and subtley and a set of mega compressed EMGs is not going to do it for you.

If you played the guitar for 10 minutes and hated it, well, thats fucked up. It is the best option going. It just sounds like you want an RC7, so you can go ahead and try and buy one (even though they aren't available anywhere).

"The RC7 on the other hand, has an ebony board (way brighter tone), standard Ibanez style comfort cuts and then a ridiculously carved out horn, painted neck (sticky and slow), a cheap trem, no piezos, and 707s"

i dont care having a brighter sound... my ibanez has mahagony body... having something different could be intresting.
standard ibanez comfort is actuaslly what i need... the thing is that its much more comfort than ibanez's... much thinner neck,huge cut away.
"and then a ridiculously carved out horn" - i dont see anyuthing rediculous in the horn... i think that finaly someone crafted a guitar that will be really comfortable, its like everyone are doing the same stuff without stepping one step forward - that guitar is 3 steps forward.
the neck is painted?? i dont think so.. the neck isnt painted on the prototype.. where did you see its painted? it even turns me on more on thaty guitar lol.
the trem is a lo pro with a different name according to what i know.
the petrucci 7 with piez's coses about 2300$ if not more... thats 500$ more than the dean... could justify the missing piezo.
what so bad about 707?
the only thing that i think you are right about is how good are emg's for some fusion stuff.. on the other hand i could use the ibanez for the fusion stuff and the dean would be my shred machine.

[Seedawakener]

JP>Rusty Another vote for the EBMMJP7. The neck on that guitar is really thin too... and the piezos... THE PIEZOS!!! omg...


ah, forgot: the JP7 is made in the US!

[Plaschkes]

The problem with pairing the RC7 with your Ibanez is like me pairing my JP7 with my Jackson.

One is a 7 stringer and one is a 6 stringer.

Once you go 7... It'll be hard to use the Ibanez. Plus, it's won't be a pair to your RC7 because it won't be a diffrent sound for your recordings, you can't use it on everything you'll write in 7 string format.

That's why I got the Loomis, to be my 7 stringer of DOOM, with my JP7, to be my 7 stringer of all out goodness.

[Seedawakener]

Originally Posted by trippled

P.S - Plaschkes from you i wouldnt expect to have grammer mistakes(-:
it should be: "no wonder im the only one in this country that have one".

Interesting here btw.... Since those are 2 different ways of saying it. You actually tried to insult his grammar when he was a 100 % correct...

edit: I just realised... isnt it has instead of have in that sitation too?

[Plaschkes]

Yep, it supposed to be "...Only one in this country that has one", so we were both wrong.

However, I simply don't care. I'm an Israely and (semi) proud of it!

[trippled]

lol bro me and plaschkes we are friends i wouldnt insult him, we are just joking.
and i thought it would be has there too... but i remember that you use has when its - he,she,it.
have is for - i,you,we,they.
some how has sounds more correct in that santence i dont know... and the way he said it was right? sounded weird to me.

[sakeido]

Originally Posted by trippled

"The RC7 on the other hand, has an ebony board (way brighter tone), standard Ibanez style comfort cuts and then a ridiculously carved out horn, painted neck (sticky and slow), a cheap trem, no piezos, and 707s"

i dont care having a brighter sound... my ibanez has mahagony body... having something different could be intresting.
standard ibanez comfort is actuaslly what i need... the thing is that its much more comfort than ibanez's... much thinner neck,huge cut away.
"and then a ridiculously carved out horn" - i dont see anyuthing rediculous in the horn... i think that finaly someone crafted a guitar that will be really comfortable, its like everyone are doing the same stuff without stepping one step forward - that guitar is 3 steps forward.
the neck is painted?? i dont think so.. the neck isnt painted on the prototype.. where did you see its painted? it even turns me on more on thaty guitar lol.
the trem is a lo pro with a different name according to what i know.
the petrucci 7 with piez's coses about 2300$ if not more... thats 500$ more than the dean... could justify the missing piezo.
what so bad about 707?
the only thing that i think you are right about is how good are emg's for some fusion stuff.. on the other hand i could use the ibanez for the fusion stuff and the dean would be my shred machine.

I find it odd that you say you want to play Holdsworth and jazzier stuff and then want 707s. The actual production RC7 has a painted neck, watch the War Cry video by Outworld where Rusty is playing one. The trem on the RC7 if I remember right is a Lo-TRS which is a trem you can only get on the entry level Ibanezs.
As far as necks go, the one on the Dean has only been called "super thin" and even then only by Dean and Rusty, so who knows if their definition of super thin is actually any thinner then the JP7 (which is craaazy thin) or an old Universe. And I've never had any problem with the horn on any guitar and unless you make a regular habit of stretching from the 12th to the 24th fret most horns should work just fine and dandy. The Universe has a horn that is sculpted out on the back.
This guitar is "three steps forward?" Nonsense. The horn hasn't been changed because Rusty is the only guy I've ever heard of who wanted a huge amount of room behind the horn, the neck probably is exactly the same as the old Wizard neck (because IMO that neck is the absolute smallest size playable), and uhh I don't know what the other step may have been, because the RC7 for all intents and purposes appears to be a pretty standard guitar with only one new design change (the trimmed down horn).

[trippled]

Originally Posted by sakeido

I find it odd that you say you want to play Holdsworth and jazzier stuff and then want 707s. The actual production RC7 has a painted neck, watch the War Cry video by Outworld where Rusty is playing one. The trem on the RC7 if I remember right is a Lo-TRS which is a trem you can only get on the entry level Ibanezs.
As far as necks go, the one on the Dean has only been called "super thin" and even then only by Dean and Rusty, so who knows if their definition of super thin is actually any thinner then the JP7 (which is craaazy thin) or an old Universe. And I've never had any problem with the horn on any guitar and unless you make a regular habit of stretching from the 12th to the 24th fret most horns should work just fine and dandy. The Universe has a horn that is sculpted out on the back.
This guitar is "three steps forward?" Nonsense. The horn hasn't been changed because Rusty is the only guy I've ever heard of who wanted a huge amount of room behind the horn, the neck probably is exactly the same as the old Wizard neck (because IMO that neck is the absolute smallest size playable), and uhh I don't know what the other step may have been, because the RC7 for all intents and purposes appears to be a pretty standard guitar with only one new design change (the trimmed down horn).

the neck is much thinner than the petrucci... the petrucci neck isnt thin at all... you can the thickness on every video... its ultra thin, i think its thin as the wizard prestige 1 if not more.
3 steps:
1. the cut away gives you better access to the higher frets.
2. the body is sculpted, so you wont ever be bothered by the cody when you are playing.
3.the neck joint is really low so again, much easier on higher frets.
* a fact - since ibanez dont make anymore wizard 1 necks(except for that ugly jem 20th) the neck suppouse to be the thinnest neck on the market today.
i saw the video... what do you mean by saying its painted? painted in black? i saw the video and it looks like wood to me.

[Plaschkes]

Dude, that guy has a JP7, I think he knows what he's talking about...

The JP neck is very thin, although it's more round, which gives it a chunkier feeling, as oppoused to the flat Ibanez necks which feel thinner, but they are just a diffrent shape.

And don't worry about the english crap, we're done with it, now it is time to be forgot abot it al!