Reverse headstock?

Jongpil Yun · 05-09-2007, 04:07 AM

What's the advantage? I figure it makes the low strings tighter and the high strings looser, but how much so? How does it figure into your playing?

Sorry for all the questions lately, getting a custom guitar built

OzzyC · 05-09-2007, 04:15 AM

It changes the percived tensionso the lower strings would feel looser and the higher strings tighter, actually.

With a locking nut in use, the only difference is asthetic.

Michael · 05-09-2007, 04:18 AM

Tension wise, wouldn't it be the oposite of a standard headstock?

mnemonic · 05-09-2007, 04:18 AM

differences in string length dont change the tension, differences in string guage, and scale length will change the tension tho.

it seems like its mainly for aesthetics though, as having all the tuners on the bottom is kinda inconvenient, for me atleast, because i always turn the wrong tuner, gah

Prometheus · 05-09-2007, 04:19 AM

From what I've heard, it's the opposite actually. I think it's Noodles that has a custom KXK (the same company that made Karl Sander's awesome V), and he reckons he needs thicker strings on his reverse headstock guitar to have the same feel as the thinner strings on his other guitar, if that makes sense. Both have the same scale length, so the apparent lessening of the tension seems to be the fault of the reverse headstock. Bit of an eyeopener, I thought.

Still, they look so damn cool, it's probably worth it

Jongpil Yun · 05-09-2007, 04:28 AM

Well, I guess I was way off there, lol.

Sebastian · 05-09-2007, 08:38 AM

Reversed headstock.. i dont know whatadvantages it has..

But its looks killer ...

and that counts for me

ZPQ · 05-09-2007, 09:12 AM

With a locking nut it'll make no difference.
With a regular nut the difference will be slightly noticable when string bending - the change in total length means there's more (or less) metal to contribute to the stretching. Longer string should mean it'll be easier to bend.

metalfiend666 · 05-09-2007, 09:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZPQ

With a locking nut it'll make no difference.
With a regular nut the difference will be slightly noticable when string bending - the change in total length means there's more (or less) metal to contribute to the stretching. Longer string should mean it'll be easier to bend.

Spot on. The tension of the string will be identical for reversed or standard headstocks assuming the scale lengths, string gauge and tunings are the same. As ZPQ says the bending ability will alter, but this difference is only a slight one. Also as ZPQ said, a locking nut negates any differences anyway.

7 Dying Trees · 05-09-2007, 12:30 PM

My hair doesn't get caught as much in reverse headstocks. Shallow, i know.

05-09-2007, 04:07 AM	#1
Jongpil Yun Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 2,332 Real Name: JP Main Seven: RG 7620 (VK) Thanked: 27	Reverse headstock? What's the advantage? I figure it makes the low strings tighter and the high strings looser, but how much so? How does it figure into your playing? Sorry for all the questions lately, getting a custom guitar built Whether it's laughable or irrational, this is the path that ALL great men walk! If there's a wall in our way, we'll destroy it! If there's no road, we'll pave it with our own hands! The magma in our hearts is blazing like flames! Who the hell do you think we are?

05-09-2007, 04:15 AM	#2
OzzyC :ubersquint: Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: USA Posts: 3,358 Real Name: AntonioPetrucci Main Seven: RG1527RB Main ERG: I can has ERG? Rig: GNX3000 Thanked: 17	It changes the percived tensionso the lower strings would feel looser and the higher strings tighter, actually. With a locking nut in use, the only difference is asthetic. You've got your head down You've got your eyes closed You look so pitiful now Your body encrusted with ash Breath heavy with toxins Hair singed and matted Clothes frayed and burnt You are left with nothing

05-09-2007, 04:19 AM	#5
Prometheus Oh no, no you don't! Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Cape Town, South Africa Posts: 115 Real Name: Marc Main Seven: Ibanez RG7321 + M7 Rig: UberMetal->Marshall Thanked: 0	From what I've heard, it's the opposite actually. I think it's Noodles that has a custom KXK (the same company that made Karl Sander's awesome V), and he reckons he needs thicker strings on his reverse headstock guitar to have the same feel as the thinner strings on his other guitar, if that makes sense. Both have the same scale length, so the apparent lessening of the tension seems to be the fault of the reverse headstock. Bit of an eyeopener, I thought. Still, they look so damn cool, it's probably worth it "My education was dismal. I went to a series of schools for mentally disturbed teachers." - Woody Allen

05-09-2007, 12:30 PM	#10
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05-09-2007, 04:18 AM	#3
Michael No More Mr. Nice Guy Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Geelong, Victoria, Australia Posts: 7,719 Real Name: Michael Main Seven: '97 UV7BK Rig: ADA MP1 > Mesa 50/50 Thanked: 49	Tension wise, wouldn't it be the oposite of a standard headstock?

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mnemonic ss.org Regular Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Stockton, CA Posts: 955 Real Name: Max Main Seven: Lefty Schecter 007 Elite Rig: Toneport Thanked: 7	differences in string length dont change the tension, differences in string guage, and scale length will change the tension tho. it seems like its mainly for aesthetics though, as having all the tuners on the bottom is kinda inconvenient, for me atleast, because i always turn the wrong tuner, gah

05-09-2007, 04:28 AM	#6
Jongpil Yun Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 2,332 Real Name: JP Main Seven: RG 7620 (VK) Thanked: 27	Well, I guess I was way off there, lol.

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Sebastian ss.org Regular Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Cracow, Poland Posts: 3,384 Real Name: Sebastian Thanked: 38	Reversed headstock.. i dont know whatadvantages it has.. But its looks killer ... and that counts for me

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ZPQ ss.org Regular Join Date: May 2007 Location: Hull/York UK Posts: 25 Real Name: John Main Seven: RG7620 Rig: pod/jmp1/mesa Thanked: 0	With a locking nut it'll make no difference. With a regular nut the difference will be slightly noticable when string bending - the change in total length means there's more (or less) metal to contribute to the stretching. Longer string should mean it'll be easier to bend.

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