[Atomic_gerbil]

I'm still debating on whether to go 7 string, but i need to know some things about 7 string floyds.

Last time I played a 7 string, it was at guitar center here. I think it was a C-7 Hellraiser. It was nice, but it was boring.

I thought to myself that its probably the fact it doesn't have a trem. So, I started to look at 7 string trems, and I found the Schecter C-7 FR. This looks like a good deal, but since I'll mostly be playing nevermore, will this be a bad thing? I know Nevermore tunes a half step down on their 7 strings on some of their songs.

I just want to know if it's worth the trouble of re-stringing and tuning that a 7 string with a floyd on it will keep my excitement up. I really want to play 7 string, and I'm trying to convince myself to hit the "buy" button!!

[OzzyC]

You may want to check out a Tremolo-No, it stablizes the trem and make tuning easier.

[SHREDTOKILL]

well do you have experience with 6er floyds?
if not i would just go with a hard tail for your first seven.....then later you can always get something with a trem.

[Durero]

You could equip the fixed Schecter with a Kahler hybrid 7 - which can be locked & unlocked (floating) via a built-in hex screw.

The Ibanez ZR trem is by far the best floyd-type trem available imo. It's currently only available on the S-series 7string. It's got a dis-engageable 'Backstop' feature which puts it into a non-floating (but still useable) mode and helps with tuning ease.

[Kevan]

Originally Posted by Durero

The Ibanez ZR trem is by far the best floyd-type trem available imo.

The ZR isn't really "Floyd type".

[Durero]

Ok "Floyd inspired" then. It's certainly closer to a floyd than a Kahler or Steinberger, but if you're in the business of making Floyd-compatible parts then yah you're absolutely right.

[Kevan]

Originally Posted by Durero

...but if you're in the business of making Floyd-compatible parts then yah you're absolutely right.

I'm not sure I follow you on that.
Clarify?

[Durero]

What I was thinking there was that I can understand that - seeing as you make a very cool device which is compatible with Floyd trems - you would see the ZR as being quite different from them.

Edit: While we're on the subject I'll just add my opinion that the main thing I like about the ZR is the ball-bearings instead of the knife edges. I like the Backstop feature as well, but I think the Tremol-no would be much more useful because of it's flexibility and how quickly you can engage/disengage it.

Have you ever installed a Tremol-no in a ZR Kevan?

[Kevan]

I didn't come to this thread to sell anything.
I came here to provide some knowledge and expertise on trems, namely the 7-string versions.

The ZR trems are cool, and super-smooth. The ball-bearing design has been around for a LONG time, but only recently incorporated into production trems. While the ZR does have a "backstop" feature, it doesn't have a Dive Only or Hardtail setting. It sure is smooth though.

The ZR differs from the Floyd (and others) in many ways. Check out the trem cavity on a ZR-equipped guitar sometime. Compare it to a Floyd or a 'vintage' trem. You'll see why I put the ZR in a different category outside of Floyds. I do the same with Parkers, Steinbergers, a few Kahlers, Bigsbys, Stetsbars, torsion-bar systems, etc.

Sorry, but the Tremol-No does not work with the ZR trems.

[Seedawakener]

Nevermore play in the same tuning on almost all of their songs. Their are like 2 or 3 exceptions. Anyway, If youw ant true Nevermoreness you should get the new Jeff Loomis model coming out later this year (probably). It has EMGs and a original floyd! AND A MAPLE FB!