Signature guitars. Discuss.

NickCormier · 03-25-2007, 08:57 AM

I know many people use signature guitars (Jems, UVs, etc)

Does anyone feel kinda like they are not really forging their own identity by using a signature guitar (or a guitar very exclusive to someone?) Like if you see someone use a black BC rich Stealth, you can pretty much assume they like Death, a black Jackson KV-2, can assume they are a Dave fan, with a Jackson KE-1, Can assume they are a Marty fan, Any white JEM, Can assume they are a Steve Vai fan..

Now like Dave Weiner said in one of his videos, He avoided guitars like these because unfortunately, our world is very Image based in this day and age, and if someone sees you with some sort of guitar that relates closely to a certain artist (like lets say an Alexi RR) then you can be playing anything, but psychologically they could link you to that artist. And of course, thats not a good thing for making your Identity known in the music world.

Im just wondering this cause well Its no secret I love Marty, and I learned the majority of my guitar playing on a Jackson Kelly, so Thats the shape thats most comfortable to me, but I just kinda feel like if I played on stage with one, Along with all the marty covers I do, along with my songwriting/improvising being very Marty-esqe also, people MAY assume im just a Marty clone.. lol Of course I love his stuff by I by no means want to be a Marty clone, I want to be ME. Hmmm.

Whats your guys opinion of this.. if people saw someone on stage with a JEM, doing crazy whammy bar stuff and Vai like music, Its easy for them to just associate this guy with being a Vai wannabe, and write off checking him out more if maybe they dont like Vai.. I know its unfortunate and stupid to do this, but Thats what some people actually do. Our world = crap O_O

Edit :: Heres that Dave Weiner video. ACTUALLY.. I dont think this is the one he mentions what I was talking about, but its a cool video anyways..
http://ibanez.com/eg/videos/videos/weiner3.mp4

Heres the actual video.. = http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LmOkM6_iw3I

soldierkahn · 03-25-2007, 09:57 AM

in my personal opinion, i dont think people really care. honestly, i was using a schecter jerry horton (papa roach) signature model for 5 years, it was the white one with the black roach, and while i was in korea performing with my southern rock band, we played a lot of country and hard rock but noone ever asked me about the whole signature thing. all they did was compliment me on my playing. so you really just have to make sure you ARE making a name for yourself. Do whatever you need to do to make that when the set is over, the people remember YOUR NAME and not your guitar. I think then you will be squared away bro.

Makelele · 03-25-2007, 10:04 AM

I think only foolish guitarists really care about that crap.

StevieHimself · 03-25-2007, 10:08 AM

The only signature guitar I've ever owned and still own is the Ibanez Universe. I was quite shocked to see that most people didn't realize it was a Steve Vai model. I guess it's because he never plays it live ever. I would do clinics and people would ask me, "Did Ibanez make that for YOU??" LOL!! Ah, only in a perfect world...

distressed_romeo · 03-25-2007, 10:10 AM

Technically the Les Paul is a signature guitar, and plenty of people have forged individual identities playing those...

Alpo · 03-25-2007, 10:11 AM

Most people have no idea whether a guitar is a sig or not. They also can't tell the difference between a Jackson and an ESP copy. So it doesn't matter. If someone actually cares, that's their problem.

Metal Ken · 03-25-2007, 10:12 AM

I play the UV cause i like how it feels and i like how it looks. I could care less about that signature stuff. I cant stand Korn, but their guitar is awesome, and i'd play it.

Stitch · 03-25-2007, 10:12 AM

Here is a better question - is any KxK 7-string V a signature Noodles guitar?

I don't really bother about that shit tbh. I've never wanted a guitar because of its signature status - with the JS, I actively hated it because of who endorsed it.

Its an interesting point though - in a recent interview Adam and Joel from KsE said they were offered an endorsement by Ibanez but they went for Caparison amongst other reasons because Ibanez didn't want them playing other Ibanez sigs on stage (Joel was playing a UV at the time and Adam a JS). It seems odd they would say that since Mushroomhead played UVMC's in a recent video and onstage and Gizmachi openly play UV's as well. Still.

Chris · 03-25-2007, 10:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Makelele

I think only foolish guitarists really care about that crap.

Yep.

Shawn · 03-25-2007, 10:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Metal Ken

I play the UV cause i like how it feels and i like how it looks. I could care less about that signature stuff. I cant stand Korn, but their guitar is awesome, and i'd play it.

Although I did like Korn's first 3 albums, especially their first 2, Morbid Angel was more an influence to me than Korn and Vai. I still love the fact that Vai put "Universe" on his guitars rather than "Steve Vai".

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03-25-2007, 08:57 AM	#1 (permalink)
NickCormier Canada >>> You Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: 1 Posts: 2,163 Thanked: 22	Signature guitars. Discuss. I know many people use signature guitars (Jems, UVs, etc) Does anyone feel kinda like they are not really forging their own identity by using a signature guitar (or a guitar very exclusive to someone?) Like if you see someone use a black BC rich Stealth, you can pretty much assume they like Death, a black Jackson KV-2, can assume they are a Dave fan, with a Jackson KE-1, Can assume they are a Marty fan, Any white JEM, Can assume they are a Steve Vai fan.. Now like Dave Weiner said in one of his videos, He avoided guitars like these because unfortunately, our world is very Image based in this day and age, and if someone sees you with some sort of guitar that relates closely to a certain artist (like lets say an Alexi RR) then you can be playing anything, but psychologically they could link you to that artist. And of course, thats not a good thing for making your Identity known in the music world. Im just wondering this cause well Its no secret I love Marty, and I learned the majority of my guitar playing on a Jackson Kelly, so Thats the shape thats most comfortable to me, but I just kinda feel like if I played on stage with one, Along with all the marty covers I do, along with my songwriting/improvising being very Marty-esqe also, people MAY assume im just a Marty clone.. lol Of course I love his stuff by I by no means want to be a Marty clone, I want to be ME. Hmmm. Whats your guys opinion of this.. if people saw someone on stage with a JEM, doing crazy whammy bar stuff and Vai like music, Its easy for them to just associate this guy with being a Vai wannabe, and write off checking him out more if maybe they dont like Vai.. I know its unfortunate and stupid to do this, but Thats what some people actually do. Our world = crap O_O Edit :: Heres that Dave Weiner video. ACTUALLY.. I dont think this is the one he mentions what I was talking about, but its a cool video anyways.. http://ibanez.com/eg/videos/videos/weiner3.mp4 Heres the actual video.. = http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LmOkM6_iw3I Last edited by NickCormier; 03-25-2007 at 09:13 AM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost

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Makelele ss.org Regular Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Finland Posts: 2,003 Real Name: Markus Main Seven: Ibanez RG2077XL, Jackson Rig: Flextone 2 Thanked: 23	I think only foolish guitarists really care about that crap. Now I lay me down to sleep Blah, blah, blah my soul to keep If I die before I wake I'll go to hell for heaven's sake

03-25-2007, 10:08 AM	#4 (permalink)
StevieHimself 7-string scorpion Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Ramsey, NJ Posts: 134 Real Name: Steve Bello Main Seven: Ibanez Universe UV777BK Rig: Ibanez TB150HX head Thanked: 0	The only signature guitar I've ever owned and still own is the Ibanez Universe. I was quite shocked to see that most people didn't realize it was a Steve Vai model. I guess it's because he never plays it live ever. I would do clinics and people would ask me, "Did Ibanez make that for YOU??" LOL!! Ah, only in a perfect world... "Bello just played more notes today than I did in 20 years!" --Mike Panek (a co-worker of mine!)

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Alpo ... Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Finland Posts: 2,527 Real Name: Mancomb Main Seven: RG1527RB with BKP's Rig: Line 6 Toneport UX1 Thanked: 6	Most people have no idea whether a guitar is a sig or not. They also can't tell the difference between a Jackson and an ESP copy. So it doesn't matter. If someone actually cares, that's their problem. Through the darkness of futures past The magician longs to see One chants out between two worlds Fire Walk With Me

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Metal Ken Sanctity In Blasphemous Ruin • Super Moderator • Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Florida Posts: 22,361 Real Name: Legion Main Seven: Loomis, C7HR, Giannini 7 Rig: Mesa Rectoverb 50 Thanked: 83	I play the UV cause i like how it feels and i like how it looks. I could care less about that signature stuff. I cant stand Korn, but their guitar is awesome, and i'd play it. Glory and praise to Thee, Satan, on high, Where Thou didst reign, in Hell where Thou dost lie, Vanquished, silent, dreaming eternally. Grant that my soul some day rest close to Thee Under the Tree of Knowledge which shall spread Its branches like a Temple overhead. ~Charles Baudelaire http://www.myspace.com/impurity Brutal Skullfucking Death Metal

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Stitch Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Edinburgh, Scotland Posts: 6,768 Real Name: Simon Main Seven: Ibanez RG7420 & S7420FMTW Main ERG: Orion OG8 Rig: Peavey 6505 Thanked: 107	Here is a better question - is any KxK 7-string V a signature Noodles guitar? I don't really bother about that shit tbh. I've never wanted a guitar because of its signature status - with the JS, I actively hated it because of who endorsed it. Its an interesting point though - in a recent interview Adam and Joel from KsE said they were offered an endorsement by Ibanez but they went for Caparison amongst other reasons because Ibanez didn't want them playing other Ibanez sigs on stage (Joel was playing a UV at the time and Adam a JS). It seems odd they would say that since Mushroomhead played UVMC's in a recent video and onstage and Gizmachi openly play UV's as well. Still.

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