25.5" vs 27" scale - how big of an adjustment?

sakeido · 01-17-2007, 03:05 PM

Alright so I have only ever played 25.5" scale guitars and now I am seeing that lots of 7 strings are available in 27" baritone scale. I've never played a baritone before.

Whats the different between 25.5" scale and 27" scale? Tighter strings seems obvious, which is no big deal, but what about the extra length? Would your average baritone play "slower" or can you not stretch as far across the frets... etc. How long did it take you to get used to it?

I've been playing for seven or eight years now always on 25.5" scale. I got a 7 string as my first nice guitar so the extra string is no problem but I'm worried the extra length might throw me off since I am pretty set in my ways..

Metal Ken · 01-17-2007, 03:07 PM

its pretty much 1 fret longer on the low end. For me, i barely noticed the difference, but it seemed to cause a big problem for some of the other guys on here who've had them.

Loserchief · 01-17-2007, 03:08 PM

the 1.5" extra imo isn't much. I picked up several baritone scale guitars and had no problem with them. Maybe my sense of scale is a little off compared to other guitarist since i also play a 35.5" scale bass, but imo baris don't really feel different, but they sound tighter and more clear.

Metal Ken · 01-17-2007, 03:17 PM

Agreed. i like the extra tension while still being able to use slightly smaller strings. As far as the neck being slower, it'd just depend on the guitar. the RG1077XL i owned for a while played pretty fast. the neck was a bit more C-shaped than the usual ibanez neck.

Durero · 01-17-2007, 03:27 PM

I think many players wouldn't even notice the difference unless were told before hand that they are playing a longer scale. It can make a huge difference in clarity, especially on the lower strings - very much worth trying imo.

D-EJ915 · 01-17-2007, 03:38 PM

I only really notice a difference on the first 3 frets or so, and that's only when I'm playing at like 220 bpm so, there's not really that huge of an adjustment imo.

NickCormier · 01-17-2007, 05:00 PM

Yea I been pondering how I would react to 27" also... because on my RG7, it gets kinda sloppy with the B string at times... so 25.5 isnt really cutting it, but it Is livable I guess.. but for my custom guitar, Im comprimising and going with 26" and hoping its not too much of a difference so I can still feel comfortable and play like normal, yet get abit more compensation for that B string

Nik · 01-17-2007, 05:04 PM

I've played many 26.5" Schecters, and I couldn't really feel a difference. At all. As long as you don't have tiny hands, you shouldn't have an issue with 27".

Your best bet is to go to your local guitar store and try some baritone guitars (if they got any).

metalfiend666 · 01-18-2007, 04:36 AM

It probably took me 10 mins to get used to my 27" RG7421XL and about 30mins to be 100% comfortable with it. You only notice the difference on the lowest frets and I don't notice any difference at all if it's the first guitar I've played in that session. Obviously if you switch between guitars with different scales you'll notice it, but it shouldn't be a problem.

Nats · 01-18-2007, 12:30 PM

it's really easy. i don't notice it, but then again it's probably cause i have a 5 string Warwick too

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01-17-2007, 03:05 PM	#1 (permalink)
sakeido Is a Pastafarian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Calgary AB Posts: 3,662 Real Name: Cody Main Seven: COW7 Silverburst Main ERG: 2077XL Rig: Stiletto/Nova/Orange Thanked: 191	25.5" vs 27" scale - how big of an adjustment? Alright so I have only ever played 25.5" scale guitars and now I am seeing that lots of 7 strings are available in 27" baritone scale. I've never played a baritone before. Whats the different between 25.5" scale and 27" scale? Tighter strings seems obvious, which is no big deal, but what about the extra length? Would your average baritone play "slower" or can you not stretch as far across the frets... etc. How long did it take you to get used to it? I've been playing for seven or eight years now always on 25.5" scale. I got a 7 string as my first nice guitar so the extra string is no problem but I'm worried the extra length might throw me off since I am pretty set in my ways..

01-17-2007, 03:07 PM	#2 (permalink)
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Nik Arrogant asshole Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: My house Posts: 3,074 Real Name: Nik Main Seven: 2005 Ibanez RG1527 w/Dima Rig: PodXTLive Thanked: 3	I've played many 26.5" Schecters, and I couldn't really feel a difference. At all. As long as you don't have tiny hands, you shouldn't have an issue with 27". Your best bet is to go to your local guitar store and try some baritone guitars (if they got any). ---------------------- Visit my band, 'Emulsifier.' Unless you suck. You don't suck... do you? http://www.myspace.com/demx

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01-17-2007, 03:08 PM	#3 (permalink)
Loserchief Rokuban Taicho Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Munich; Germany Posts: 419 Real Name: Daniel Main Seven: C7 Hellraiser Rig: Engl Sovereign+ Cab Thanked: 2	the 1.5" extra imo isn't much. I picked up several baritone scale guitars and had no problem with them. Maybe my sense of scale is a little off compared to other guitarist since i also play a 35.5" scale bass, but imo baris don't really feel different, but they sound tighter and more clear.

01-17-2007, 03:17 PM	#4 (permalink)
Metal Ken Sanctity In Blasphemous Ruin • Super Moderator • Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Florida Posts: 22,543 Real Name: Legion Main Seven: Loomis, C7HR, Giannini 7 Rig: Mesa Rectoverb 50 Thanked: 83	Agreed. i like the extra tension while still being able to use slightly smaller strings. As far as the neck being slower, it'd just depend on the guitar. the RG1077XL i owned for a while played pretty fast. the neck was a bit more C-shaped than the usual ibanez neck.

01-17-2007, 03:27 PM	#5 (permalink)
Durero prototyping... Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Vancouver, B.C., Canada Posts: 3,560 Real Name: Leo Pedersen Main Seven: Raven 7 - my design Main ERG: Ergo 10, Ergo 9, Stick 8 Rig: 2101LTD>TS100>2x1936 Thanked: 36	I think many players wouldn't even notice the difference unless were told before hand that they are playing a longer scale. It can make a huge difference in clarity, especially on the lower strings - very much worth trying imo.

01-17-2007, 05:00 PM	#7 (permalink)
NickCormier Canada >>> You Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: 1 Posts: 2,271 Thanked: 24	Yea I been pondering how I would react to 27" also... because on my RG7, it gets kinda sloppy with the B string at times... so 25.5 isnt really cutting it, but it Is livable I guess.. but for my custom guitar, Im comprimising and going with 26" and hoping its not too much of a difference so I can still feel comfortable and play like normal, yet get abit more compensation for that B string

01-18-2007, 04:36 AM	#9 (permalink)
metalfiend666 Mod Britannia • Super Moderator • Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Basildon, Essex, England Posts: 11,180 Real Name: James Main Seven: Death Warrior/KXK Sii-7 Rig: Dual Rec->Trace 3x12 Thanked: 49	It probably took me 10 mins to get used to my 27" RG7421XL and about 30mins to be 100% comfortable with it. You only notice the difference on the lowest frets and I don't notice any difference at all if it's the first guitar I've played in that session. Obviously if you switch between guitars with different scales you'll notice it, but it shouldn't be a problem. Squier Sub Sonic for sale Ibanez 540S7 for sale

01-18-2007, 12:30 PM	#10 (permalink)
Nats ss.org Regular Join Date: May 2005 Location: jersey Posts: 1,175 Rig: Mesa50Cal->Recto4x12 Thanked: 7	it's really easy. i don't notice it, but then again it's probably cause i have a 5 string Warwick too

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