Chelsea Grin

miasma · 05-24-2012, 09:55 AM

So chelsea grin use specialised jp7's and from my sources they use 10-56 ernie ball strings, now i'm pretty sure the jp7 is a 25.5" scale so how do they get decent tension or do they play with serious wobble, especially with that low a.

Just kinda curious at the moment since i'm still getting my head around tension and string gauges for my 7.

Cheers

K3V1N SHR3DZ · 05-24-2012, 10:19 AM

25.5" is fine for A with a 56.

Just to demonstrate, Dino used a 50 for the low A on this whole album.

Stealthdjentstic · 05-24-2012, 10:42 AM

Thats ....ed, I need at leaaaast a .60 for a low A

WiseSplinter · 05-24-2012, 10:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kgad0831

25.5" is fine for A with a 56.
Just to demonstrate, Dino used a 50 for the low A on this whole album.

^^ wow , that does sound really tight...
I'm using a 66 for G# on my 25.5" Carvin and it doesn't sound as tight as that. Its just a semitone away after all.
The 56 it came with felt like a rubber band to me when down at G#

How on earth do you play with a 50 at A?? I must know the secret!

miasma · 05-24-2012, 10:46 AM

You guys must know how i feel right now! lol

It's just confusing, but yeah i think i might throw in 10-56 in my 7 (26.5") and take it to a guitar tech, get it intonated, the whole setup blablabla and see how it is then, i really don't like my strings too thick

and really, a 50 for A? Thats crazy.

K3V1N SHR3DZ · 05-24-2012, 10:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WiseSplinter

How on earth do you play with a 50 at A?? I must know the secret!

I personally can't use a 50, and have to use at least a 56 on the VERY RARE occasions that I go below B. Dino is some kinda freak.

At the time he was using a Jose Arredondo modded Marshall.

DMAallday · 05-24-2012, 10:56 AM

I use a .62 for drop C!...........

geez!

Sepultorture · 05-24-2012, 10:57 AM

heck i've tuned a 56 to G# no prob, anything less than 56 feels like a rubber band to me, and i'm not a lighter picker either

Don Vito · 05-24-2012, 11:23 AM

I use a 58 for both B and A.

Works our great for me.

drawnacrol · 05-24-2012, 12:51 PM

I find low gauge strings on the B string sound out of tune when you pick, you can hear the string wobbling back.

I use a 62 for B on my 25.5 Schecter, anything less feels to loose and goes sharp when I pick. It all depends on your action/scale length/headstock angle/bridge and how hard you pick/plectrum size aswell as personal preference for tightness/fret buzz.

AlexWadeWC · 05-24-2012, 01:07 PM

59 for B standard and 62 for drop A is perfect for me

renzoip · 05-24-2012, 01:12 PM

I used a 56 for B and a 58 for A. Works for me.

thrsher · 05-24-2012, 01:14 PM

nevermind, it was a pointless post

Uncreative123 · 05-24-2012, 01:17 PM

Anything .58 or above on a JP will be a nightmare trying to get through the tuning peg. I put a .58 or .60 on there once and had to pull it through with pliers and it was a complete nightmare- coming off too. Would never do that again.

7stringDemon · 05-24-2012, 01:56 PM

.68 to .70 for A

L1ght · 05-24-2012, 02:14 PM

I've tried a .59 on the low A and it wasn't that bad, but generally, I love the sound you get from strings that are super ....ing tight. I use a .74 for G and G#, while the rest are 11-56. Going to change that soon to a .24 wound. A pure steel .24 string for F just sounds and feels weird as hell.

brutalwizard · 05-24-2012, 02:18 PM

Chealsea grin's ernie balls

and 56 is perfect for drop a for me

JStraitiff · 05-24-2012, 02:52 PM

This just goes to show how subjective tension is. I use a .58 on 26.5" and thats not tight enough for A for me. I use it for A but id rather have something like a .60 or .62

Rick · 05-24-2012, 03:37 PM

56 on a 27" in A standard works for me.

xCaptainx · 05-24-2012, 03:58 PM

I have no idea how you guys play such big strings. I use 10-52 for Drop C and 12-54 for drop B. Even the 12's on the high strings feels horrible in drop B. If I had my way I'd use a 10-54 set for drop B. I LOVE pinch harmonics and bends/vibrato and hate having to put some muscle behind it haha.

technomancer · 05-24-2012, 04:05 PM

I use a 68 for A or B on a 25.5", but it pretty much boils down to how you pick. As Dino more than proves if you play with a light touch you can use very thin strings.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Uncreative123

Anything .58 or above on a JP will be a nightmare trying to get through the tuning peg. I put a .58 or .60 on there once and had to pull it through with pliers and it was a complete nightmare- coming off too. Would never do that again.

Unless you take the 15 minutes to drill out the tuner when you're doing a string change.

Triple-J · 05-24-2012, 04:37 PM

I think you can make any gauge work especially if you learn to set up the guitar yourself or find a decent guitar tech who will listen to you and work to your specifications, personally speaking I don't buy into the big strings = better tone theory though as Tony Iommi uses 09-42 on a Gibson SG tuned to C# and I don't hear any flub going on with that guys tone.

Uncreative123 · 05-24-2012, 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by technomancer

Unless you take the 15 minutes to drill out the tuner when you're doing a string change.

And void the warranty.

Ive never had issue using. 56 for A on JP's. Might even be able to get away with Ab.

clopstyle · 05-24-2012, 07:43 PM

My last band tuned to drop G# and I used 9-52 on a 25.5" scale with no real issues. Only time it got squirrelly was when I would tremolo pick too hard. I guess I just like em loose

7stringDemon · 05-24-2012, 08:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xCaptainx

I have no idea how you guys play such big strings. I use 10-52 for Drop C and 12-54 for drop B. Even the 12's on the high strings feels horrible in drop B. If I had my way I'd use a 10-54 set for drop B. I LOVE pinch harmonics and bends/vibrato and hate having to put some muscle behind it haha.

If you're doing drop A, Give the .10-.46 with a low .68 a try. I used to think the same thing until I actually tried it. Fell in love instantly! You can hit it as hard as you want and it always sounds in tune!

Oh, and a .68 in A is about the same tension as a .46 in E. That's why people do it

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05-24-2012, 09:55 AM	#1
miasma ss.org Regular Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: London Posts: 14 Thanked: 0 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Chelsea Grin So chelsea grin use specialised jp7's and from my sources they use 10-56 ernie ball strings, now i'm pretty sure the jp7 is a 25.5" scale so how do they get decent tension or do they play with serious wobble, especially with that low a. Just kinda curious at the moment since i'm still getting my head around tension and string gauges for my 7. Cheers

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Sepultorture Murder Machine Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Oshawa, ON, Canada Posts: 4,532 Thanked: 36 Feedback Score: 4 reviews	heck i've tuned a 56 to G# no prob, anything less than 56 feels like a rubber band to me, and i'm not a lighter picker either BEARDS: They Instantly Turn Any Man Into A Badass, It's Like Having Machine Guns On Your Face

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drawnacrol 7slinger Join Date: May 2009 Location: Ireland Posts: 1,232 Thanked: 16 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I find low gauge strings on the B string sound out of tune when you pick, you can hear the string wobbling back. I use a 62 for B on my 25.5 Schecter, anything less feels to loose and goes sharp when I pick. It all depends on your action/scale length/headstock angle/bridge and how hard you pick/plectrum size aswell as personal preference for tightness/fret buzz. My Guitar Videos: http://www.youtube.com/drawnacrol

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05-24-2012, 10:19 AM	#2
K3V1N SHR3DZ EMPERORoftheUNIVERSE Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: missouri Posts: 355 Thanked: 3 Feedback Score: 5 reviews	25.5" is fine for A with a 56. Just to demonstrate, Dino used a 50 for the low A on this whole album.

05-24-2012, 10:42 AM	#3
Stealthdjentstic Banned Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Vancouver, BC, Canadia Posts: 19,978 Thanked: 338 Feedback Score: 10 reviews	Thats ....ed, I need at leaaaast a .60 for a low A

05-24-2012, 10:46 AM	#5
miasma ss.org Regular Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: London Posts: 14 Thanked: 0 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	You guys must know how i feel right now! lol It's just confusing, but yeah i think i might throw in 10-56 in my 7 (26.5") and take it to a guitar tech, get it intonated, the whole setup blablabla and see how it is then, i really don't like my strings too thick and really, a 50 for A? Thats crazy.

05-24-2012, 11:23 AM	#9
Don Vito hmmm...I DON'T KNOW! Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Alabama Posts: 3,205 Thanked: 8 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I use a 58 for both B and A. Works our great for me.

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AlexWadeWC SS.org Regular Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Knoxville, TN Posts: 902 Thanked: 67 Feedback Score: 8 reviews	59 for B standard and 62 for drop A is perfect for me gregmarx7 likes this.

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renzoip I Am the Table Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Ihate, FL, US. Posts: 2,468 Thanked: 19 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I used a 56 for B and a 58 for A. Works for me. DARK LEGACY - Progressive Power Metal from South FL!

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Uncreative123 SS.org Regular Join Date: May 2010 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 784 Thanked: 38 Feedback Score: 2 reviews	Anything .58 or above on a JP will be a nightmare trying to get through the tuning peg. I put a .58 or .60 on there once and had to pull it through with pliers and it was a complete nightmare- coming off too. Would never do that again.

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L1ght Copypasta All Over Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: New Jersey Posts: 1,293 Thanked: 11 Feedback Score: 11 reviews	I've tried a .59 on the low A and it wasn't that bad, but generally, I love the sound you get from strings that are super ....ing tight. I use a .74 for G and G#, while the rest are 11-56. Going to change that soon to a .24 wound. A pure steel .24 string for F just sounds and feels weird as hell.

05-24-2012, 02:52 PM	#18
JStraitiff Melodic Mamma Jamma Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Buffalo, NY Posts: 1,164 Thanked: 7 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	This just goes to show how subjective tension is. I use a .58 on 26.5" and thats not tight enough for A for me. I use it for A but id rather have something like a .60 or .62

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xCaptainx SS.org Regular Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Auckland, New Zealand Posts: 1,267 Thanked: 32 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I have no idea how you guys play such big strings. I use 10-52 for Drop C and 12-54 for drop B. Even the 12's on the high strings feels horrible in drop B. If I had my way I'd use a 10-54 set for drop B. I LOVE pinch harmonics and bends/vibrato and hate having to put some muscle behind it haha. proudly endorsed by B.C Rich Guitars, Line 6 Amplification, Seymour Duncan Pickups, MacBeth Shoes, Ultimate Ears, In Tune Guitar Picks and Matrix Amplification www.savingxgrace.com www.facebook.com/indreadresponse

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Triple-J the Experimetalist Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: the rain soaked post industrial wasteland known as Manchester, England Posts: 1,662 Thanked: 33 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I think you can make any gauge work especially if you learn to set up the guitar yourself or find a decent guitar tech who will listen to you and work to your specifications, personally speaking I don't buy into the big strings = better tone theory though as Tony Iommi uses 09-42 on a Gibson SG tuned to C# and I don't hear any flub going on with that guys tone. "I know for a fact that Kurt Cobain never had a problem with Def Leppard, the problem he had was with the other 99 bands that sounded exactly like us" - Joe Elliott "That's the thing about metal, some fans think one band is great and another is just shit while a "normal" person can't tell the difference" - Neil Young

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clopstyle ss.org Regular Join Date: May 2009 Location: Southeast, PA Posts: 87 Thanked: 2 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	My last band tuned to drop G# and I used 9-52 on a 25.5" scale with no real issues. Only time it got squirrelly was when I would tremolo pick too hard. I guess I just like em loose Samsara SAMSARA

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