24 fret S, why not?

militant_x · 12-23-2006, 11:29 AM

This has probably come up before, but I couldnt find the answer. Is there any mechanical / technical reason why ibanez doesnt offer an S guitar with 24 frets? Would seem like the perfect guitar...

User01 · 12-23-2006, 11:40 AM

no, there is no mechanical / technical reason why ibanez doesnt offer an S guitar with 24 frets. mick thomson from slipknot has an ibanez custom shop 24 fret s series guitar. its pretty hot.

gun metal grey, emgs, edge fx, ebony fretboard.

hot stuff

D-EJ915 · 12-23-2006, 12:22 PM

That would have been a much cooler sig guitar.

militant_x · 12-23-2006, 12:27 PM

that seven is a 6. Still bad ass.

777 · 12-23-2006, 12:46 PM

a 24fret s is easilt made , but you cant put a 24 fret neck on an s because its a longer scale and youll have intonation issues like a son of a bitch

Nik · 12-23-2006, 12:49 PM

Correct me if I'm wrong, but from what I recall, having 22 frets supposedly puts the neck pick-up in a sweeter spot allowing for better tone. At least, I think that's what a lot of people claim, and that's the reasoning behind 22 frets. Hence why strats have 22/21 frets, etc.

I personally think it's stupid, but I think that was one reason. The other reason being that Stratocasters have that many frets, and the S/JS series are modeled after strats.

Buzz762 · 12-23-2006, 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nik

Correct me if I'm wrong, but from what I recall, having 22 frets supposedly puts the neck pick-up in a sweeter spot allowing for better tone. At least, I think that's what a lot of people claim, and that's the reasoning behind 22 frets. Hence why strats have 22/21 frets, etc.

I personally think it's stupid, but I think that was one reason. The other reason being that Stratocasters have that many frets, and the S/JS series are modeled after strats.

It is... there's a harmonic spot at that specific point on the string. The pickup isn't quite situated directly under it, so you lose a little bit of it's "sweetness". It's all about the few extra notes vs. slightly better (subjective) tone from a neck pickup. I never use my neck pickup anyways, so it's a moot point for me.

skinhead · 12-23-2006, 01:44 PM

I have to say that Custom S of Mick it's amazing!

That it's a good signature, i preffer this and not the red RG.

OzzyC · 12-23-2006, 01:44 PM

i know someone on this board hade a longer neck made for his S so he could have 24 frets...i think the scale was 28 5/8

Nik · 12-23-2006, 02:05 PM

^I believe it was urklvt. I'm not a fan of anything over 27", but I still wouldn't mind giving 28 5/8" a try. It's sure a nice looking geetar...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buzz762

It is... there's a harmonic spot at that specific point on the string. The pickup isn't quite situated directly under it, so you lose a little bit of it's "sweetness". It's all about the few extra notes vs. slightly better (subjective) tone from a neck pickup. I never use my neck pickup anyways, so it's a moot point for me.

Yup

I don't really care. Many guitarists with awesome tone (John Petrucci, Vai, etc.) have 24 fret guitars. I like having 24 frets because it makes sense having 2 octaves per string.

Regardless, it doesn't bother me that much that the S has 22 frets. I could live without those high 2 frets.

12-23-2006, 11:29 AM	#1
militant_x ss.org Regular Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Miami FL Posts: 63 Real Name: Chris Main Seven: Ibanez RG7421 Rig: GuitarRig2/Fender 65 Thanked: 11 / 1	24 fret S, why not? This has probably come up before, but I couldnt find the answer. Is there any mechanical / technical reason why ibanez doesnt offer an S guitar with 24 frets? Would seem like the perfect guitar...

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User01 ss.org Regular Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 100 Thanked: 8	no, there is no mechanical / technical reason why ibanez doesnt offer an S guitar with 24 frets. mick thomson from slipknot has an ibanez custom shop 24 fret s series guitar. its pretty hot. gun metal grey, emgs, edge fx, ebony fretboard. hot stuff

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