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Questions on F# tuning/intonation/string gauge
Hello, this is my first post here.
Hoping some of you guys may be able to help me out. I'm thinking of buying a C7 Hellraiser. I was wondering if anyone here has tryed tuning theirs to F# on the low string. Is this doable, and what kind of string gauge did you use? Right now I use a 25.5 scale 7 string and I only use a 52 for my low B, although I'd probably like a 56 or something like that as I find the open B is a little too loose sounding. So for a F# I'm not really sure maby a 66 or something? And is Intonation a problem with tuning this low? It wouldn't have to be perfect, but pretty decent at least hehe. Also do you have any other guitar recommendations for a baritone 7 string for tuning this low? Thanks ![]() Last edited by lueastside; 11-08-2006 at 08:46 AM. Reason: Added some questions |
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Canis lupis obscurus
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I tune drop F on a 25.5 scale 7. I use an Elixir .068, and I find it works terrific. Most would recommend at least a .070 probably, and while there's merit to that way of thinking, I can't argue with my results. Elixirs are bright anyway, and I use a Dimarzio D Sonic 7 pickup, which is made for low tunings.
But, yes, you can certainly achive satisfactory results with what you have in mind. ![]() Welcome, BTW!
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Welcome
![]() I use a regular 7 string 10-56 in B standard, but I've just dropped the tuning of my RG7421XL (27" scale) to F# standard. Obviously those strings are a tad loose, but worked enough to let me know I like the sound of it. After playing my friends 25.5" 6 string tuned to G# with a 68 I'm going for a 6 string 13-56 set (the same as the lowest 6 strings I now use) with a 70 for my F#. The Hellraiser has a 26.5" scale, so I'd suggest something like a 68 or 70. The 66 might work for you as you're used to lighter gauges though. Trial and error is the only sure way to find what's best for you I'm afraid. |
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Thanks for the replys guys. That was quick
I guess I'd probably go for a 68 or 70 then. Any thoughts on the intonation issue, does it work out ok (with adjustments of course)? And any more opinions from others are welcome as well. Thanks again ![]() |
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I've never tried to intonate a string that heavy on a TOM bridge, but I think some guys here use that kinda gauge on their Hellraisers without problem.
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Canis lupis obscurus
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My intonation is good. The saddle is all the way back, but that's where it wants to be for proper intonation.
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i sometimes use lower(and higher) tunings, often simultaniously, have a 9-46 for e-e and a 60 for the low b...
playing in drop a at the minute on a rg7321, i had to adjust teh saddle, a teeny bit, and it was perfect, and i genuinely have no idea how to do that kind of stuff, thinking of tuning down a bit, the problem being this rg7321 is a band mates and the pickupssound like 'blub' not 'chug' in b, so tuning it further down may be silly :S saying that my amp is nearly dead now, good rest its soul :'( Progressive Metal, All teh Joys of metal, just clever....![]() |
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Kranks rule!
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its a 70 on my 7321 wit a 70 it works so so
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When I had a 27" scale 7 string, I used a .085 for F# and it had a great tension. It wasn't loose at all, and it wasn't overly tight. It was just as tight as I like my rhythm strings so things don't get sloppy. I wasn't impressed in the sustain, but that might have been the fact that it was a steel string bass string. I would've gone down to an .080, but no less if you want it fairly taught.
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Kranks rule!
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ohh ya i remember that nyck
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