[Unknown Doodl3.2]

*Hey i allready posted this on jemsite and i know some people here go to both sites i apologize if they see this twice haha

is it worth it? I LOVE my K7 but i'm having problems getting over the inlay... also... its barely 3 weeks old. Its an 01' model but I bought it brand new.

Looks: UV >>>>>>>>> K7
Playability: last time i checked they were pretty much the same. maybe a few minor differences that im unaware of?

My K7 has a lo-pro edge... i have no problem with the edge pro but i really dig the lo-pro... K7 also has a mahogany body and really good pickups... how is the UV's sound compared to a K7?

like i said, as much as i love my K7 my dream 7 string has always been a UV, and that hasn't changed. advice? comments?

thx

EDIT: I play stuff ranging from vai, becker and petrucci to nile, necrophagist and augury , I need some solid rhythm but that smooth lead tone (bridge and neck position) is a must for me

[zimbloth]

Aww man.. I sold this to you, it was an amazing guitar! Don't sell it.

Anyways I'll try to answer some of your questions:

1) You won't really be able to replace a K7 with a UV. Unless you mean a beatup old UV7BK or something. The K7's resale value because of people like you who can't get over the fact it has the model # on the 12th fret... is low compared to the UV777BK, despite the K7 being a vastly superior sounding guitar.

2) I've owned two UV777BKs and a UV7BK. I sold those and still have two K7s, the only reason being the tone. The tone is just far better than the UVs IMO. The PAF7 pickups in that deep rich mahogany body, are just an amazing combination. While the UVs have great tone too, the K7's tone is a lot tighter, defined, crisp, crunchy and in your face, also better cleans (IMO). The Blaze pickups in the UV are great for soloing and leads, but the low end isn't very tight or crisp at all. It's not that great for stuff where you need supreme articulation (palm mutes, fast trem pick runs...for example if you're a Nile fan, you could never play stuff like that with a UV).

My advice is to get a fretboard replacement if you can't get over the model # on the inlay. Or you could take your chances paying more for a UV that I would bet almost naything you'd find doesn't sound nearly good. The UV is amazing don't get me wrong, I miss mine.... but my K7 with the D-Sonic or the PAF7 sounds 10x better than my old UVs ever did.

I don't know man... the guitar I sold you is just so mint and perfect, you got a great deal on it, you'd never be able ot get a UV in a condition like that for anything close to what you paid me for the K7....not to mention with a mint UV case as well. If the inlay is the only issue, have it removed. For the price youd pay, it would still be less than what youd have to pay extra to get a UV, which you would end up realizing doesnt sound half as good as the guitar you had in the first place IMO. It would just be a shame, the K7 is the finest 7-string guitar on the market.

Either way, best of luck man.

[Unknown Doodl3.2]

thx for the in depth post zimbloth...

the inlay , although it doesn't particularly tickle my fancy, is not THAT big a problem. If I could afford it thered be no question id keep the K7 and get a new UV seperately.

great tone too, the K7's tone is a lot tighter, defined, crisp, crunchy and in your face, also better cleans (IMO). The Blaze pickups in the UV are great for soloing and leads, but the low end isn't very tight or crisp at all. It's not that great for stuff where you need supreme articulation (palm mutes, fast trem pick runs...for example if you're a Nile fan, you could never play stuff like that with a UV).

hmm, i just might reconsider afterall, considering what you say is true. I do love the paf 7's... and i dig the lo pro... it would make more sense at this time to keep the K7...

*sigh* damn you for giving me doubts!!! :P

[Mr. S]

now bear in mind i havent owned either guitar but i have played either at every opertunity (dont mind the spelling ive just got in from the pub ) both are fantastic, but ive always found the older UVs to be far superior to the newer ones, plus i feel the pups for the UVs are more lead orentated, they dont seem to cater for anything else, where as the PAFs of the K7 seem to be more well rounded, okay not as great at lead as the blaze's but theyre not exatly shite either, like zimbloth said the PAFs are amazing clean too.

as for the inlay thingit really botherd me before i played it, but when i got to played it... i really didnt give a shit i mean how many people in the crowd at your local venue know wether your playing a tele or a strat, and if they do do they give a shit, no, theyre probally looking at the singer 70% of the time, and when teyr looking at you they aint looking at your inlay, hell ive got an RGT42DX and hate the inaly on it, shark tooth... just not me... yeat i dont care because its a fantastic guitar... bottom line, if it plays/sounds good it could be a linkin' park guitar that has an inlay that says "i love the man cock" it wont matter because it'd be a sweet guitar and it'd sound great, so long as you have the technique to back it up people wont give a shit what guitar you play as long as you like how the the guitur sounds and how it plays its fine....

*note: this drunken ramble was brought to you by jack daniels and coke*

[zimbloth]

Yeah, I had a UV777BK and a K7 at the same time for a long time, I was always going back and forth and comparing every possible subtly, and the UV definitely has a more powerful lead tone on the higher strings, but the K7 was all-around better sounding. The best of both worlds was achieved by installing the D Sonic in the brigde of the K7 though

[Unknown Doodl3.2]

D sonic you say? hmm, i loved the sound of evo's in a jem, would evo 7's sound the same in mahogany? And the UV neck... is it the same as the K7? i played one before but it was too long ago to make a proper judgement...

Originally Posted by Mr. S

now bear in mind i havent owned either guitar but i have played either at every opertunity (dont mind the spelling ive just got in from the pub ) both are fantastic, but ive always found the older UVs to be far superior to the newer ones, plus i feel the pups for the UVs are more lead orentated, they dont seem to cater for anything else, where as the PAFs of the K7 seem to be more well rounded, okay not as great at lead as the blaze's but theyre not exatly shite either, like zimbloth said the PAFs are amazing clean too.

as for the inlay thingit really botherd me before i played it, but when i got to played it... i really didnt give a shit i mean how many people in the crowd at your local venue know wether your playing a tele or a strat, and if they do do they give a shit, no, theyre probally looking at the singer 70% of the time, and when teyr looking at you they aint looking at your inlay, hell ive got an RGT42DX and hate the inaly on it, shark tooth... just not me... yeat i dont care because its a fantastic guitar... bottom line, if it plays/sounds good it could be a linkin' park guitar that has an inlay that says "i love the man cock" it wont matter because it'd be a sweet guitar and it'd sound great, so long as you have the technique to back it up people wont give a shit what guitar you play as long as you like how the the guitur sounds and how it plays its fine....

*note: this drunken ramble was brought to you by jack daniels and coke*

[7 Dying Trees]

If you love the sound, but still absolutely hate hate hate the inlay, then go off and get the fretbopard replaced. Personally I love OLD UV's so I am biased as to what you should do, but i've also never played a K-7. I have a hate relationship it seems with mahogony, so I am not the person to giver advice so here goes:

get an old UV.

[Korbain]

Keep the K7, they're both great guitars, but the inlay isn't that bad!! jesus its an inlay!! not a hole in the fretboard lol. aslong as the guitar sounds good and plays well for you, why would you want something else? just save, and then you'll have 2 great guitars

[YngwieReid]

2) I've owned two UV777BKs and a UV7BK. I sold those and still have two K7s, the only reason being the tone. The tone is just far better than the UVs IMO. The PAF7 pickups in that deep rich mahogany body, are just an amazing combination. While the UVs have great tone too, the K7's tone is a lot tighter, defined, crisp, crunchy and in your face, also better cleans (IMO). The Blaze pickups in the UV are great for soloing and leads, but the low end isn't very tight or crisp at all. It's not that great for stuff where you need supreme articulation (palm mutes, fast trem pick runs...for example if you're a Nile fan, you could never play stuff like that with a UV

True, and very true!

It's unfortunate how much we place looks on everything, even our instruments. I know looks count for something but honestly, the k7's sound better. So you have to ask yourself something.

Do you want to spend more for less? Or are looks > tone?

~Aj. Reid

[zimbloth]

Well the K7 looks gorgeous in its own right, it has the same neck binding and shape, it's classy looking except for the inlay. I like it better than boring ass dots though.

It should also be noted it doesn't sound like a Les Paul or anything, it has a mahogany body, but it also has a maple neck, is bolt-on, and has pickups which are voiced perfectly to compliment this guitar. It sounds amazing.

Anyways, Universes are awesome, K7s are awesome, it's a win win... it just so happens that I feel the K7s sound a lot better and can be had for a lot less coin.