BK pickup clip (S2.0/Podx3/Painkiller)

TravisMontgomery · 08-26-2008, 01:29 PM

I got my new bridge pickup yesterday. A Bareknuckle Painkiller. This thing is siiiick. Here's a little thing I wrote today to make a clip.

SoundClick artist: KirkPetrucci - I lurb t3h p0lyrhythms!

CentaurPorn · 08-26-2008, 01:33 PM

Wow! Sounds tighter than a mosquitos Anus. Now I need a 7 without the damn EMG pu routing.

Ishan · 08-26-2008, 01:56 PM

Very cool but it needs a bass track

TravisMontgomery · 08-26-2008, 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ishan

Very cool but it needs a bass track

Ahhh, I need to get a real bass....I hate just pitch shifting my guitar. My bass tone suuuuuucks haha.

friendforafoe · 08-26-2008, 07:31 PM

methinks you should add some mids to your rhythm tone...seems a bit too scooped and tinny. Those pups sound great though bro!

Shawn · 08-26-2008, 09:23 PM

Sounds brutal. Nice work!

Rick · 08-26-2008, 09:27 PM

Holy crap, that's awesome!

jessoceans · 08-26-2008, 11:20 PM

Those pups sound really clear and tight, I like it.

Kronpox · 08-27-2008, 12:13 AM

It, uh... sounds horrible?

Sorry, but imo the high end is really harsh and I can't hear anything except pick scrapes (you've possibly discovered the meaning of 'too much djent'). I'm sure the pickups are awesome, but this recording sure ain't... Up the mids and down the highs and make those things growl!

zimbloth · 08-27-2008, 12:20 AM

It sounds good, excellent playing. Tasteful riffage and leads, love it.

Travis have you tried recording with impulses before? All you'd need is to connect your head to the recorder, load up the impulse file of your choice, mute the dry signal, and BOOM - serious professional mic'd up tone but direct. No cab necessary (if you have a dummy load, such as a Hot Plate). It would sound a lot better than the POD, which of course is very limiting.

Otherwise, kickass bro

TravisMontgomery · 08-27-2008, 12:57 AM

Kronpox: Yeah, I wasn't too sure about this mix at allllll. These pickups sound way different than my EMG's, so I still don't have a good patch for them. This was just a patch I made really quick, which obviously didn't sound too good haha.

zimbloth: Nope I haven't tried impulses, but I've been interested in trying them! Unfortunately all of my gear is in back in Hamilton, so all that I have is the POD. I'm going to try to get a JSX for here at home, so I'll definitely look into impulses. Any good sound clips for an example on how it sounds?

zimbloth · 08-27-2008, 01:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kirkpetrucci

zimbloth: Nope I haven't tried impulses, but I've been interested in trying them! Unfortunately all of my gear is in back in Hamilton, so all that I have is the POD. I'm going to try to get a JSX for here at home, so I'll definitely look into impulses. Any good sound clips for an example on how it sounds?

It's a little to complicated to write up here, but get in touch with me in private sometime and I'll go over it to you. I can send some samples shortly as I'm using it right now to record some demos.

TravisMontgomery · 08-27-2008, 03:11 PM

I took Kronpox's advice an remixed it. What do you guys think?

SymmetricScars · 08-27-2008, 03:38 PM

I never heard the old mix, so I can't compare, but the new mix is tiiight as hell.

Definitely sounds like a good pup

drawnQ · 08-27-2008, 03:59 PM

some EQ problems with the guitar. add a bass track and then EQ the guitars. it feels like something is missing in the sound

TravisMontgomery · 08-27-2008, 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drawnQ

some EQ problems with the guitar. add a bass track and then EQ the guitars. it feels like something is missing in the sound

There actually is bass haha. It's just a pitch shifted guitar.....so it sucks. I can't ever get it to really stand out in the mix.

Ruins · 08-27-2008, 04:45 PM

awesome riffage! the tone could have some more meat in it though add some mids

zimbloth · 08-27-2008, 05:53 PM

Try boosting the guitars around 200hz, with a High Pass Filter around 80-120hz. If you want more midrange snarl boost 1.5khz a bit. Bass-wise, try boosting around 100-120hz as well as ~400-600 (whatever corresponds to the punchiness of the bass, depends).

angus · 08-27-2008, 06:08 PM

I liked the track a lot! I'd listen to it anytime. What were the drum tracks done with? Nice job dude.

Agree about the highs- it's pretty harsh. I'd up the low mids only, as the high mids don't seem to really be as necessary in this case.

Zimbloth, I'm curious why you'd run the HPF- what's your reasoning on that? Sounds to me like he could run a LPF set high to cut out some of the harshness.

Edit: I can't read for shit.

Plankis · 08-27-2008, 06:18 PM

Now it sounds good. The first mix was really mean to my ears, couldn't listen to it at all. Mucho better.

zimbloth · 08-27-2008, 08:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by angus

Zimbloth, I'm curious why you'd run the HPF- what's your reasoning on that? Sounds to me like he could run a LPF set high to cut out some of the harshness.

Edit: I can't read for shit.

Yeah Chris, I recommend running a LPF too, usually around 12khz does the job at eliminating fizz. In extreme cases sometimes even setting it around 8-10khz is necessary. It depends on how the drums and things fill out the mix.

I usually set the HPF around 120khz and leave that area for bass and kicks. The fullness of guitar is really around 200-300hz anyways, the stuff below will get buried in the mix. It sounds tighter when you scoop out the guitar's fundamentals.

angus · 08-27-2008, 11:23 PM

Hhhmm, interesting. I'll do some recordings and try that approach out. I'll mess around with it. I'm not sure if I agree with the idea of attenuating the low frequencies/fundamentals, but I suppose I won't know until I try! Now I'm curious though.

If it's not clear, I don't do a lot of heavy guitar recording! I mostly deal with instruments in the recording studio that don't plug in!

EDIT: I'm just not thinking well tonight.

zimbloth · 08-27-2008, 11:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by angus

Hhhmm, interesting. I'll do some recordings and try that approach out. I'll mess around with it. I'm not sure if I agree with the idea of attenuating the low frequencies/fundamentals, but I suppose I won't know until I try! Now I'm curious though.

If it's not clear, I don't do a lot of heavy guitar recording! I mostly deal with instruments in the recording studio that don't plug in!

EDIT: I'm just not thinking well tonight.

Just about every pro engineer cuts the lows on guitars around 80-120hz. It's not eliminating the guitar's punch or fullness, just the subbass you don't need or want in the mix. Bass and kicks should be filling that in.

MF_Kitten · 08-30-2008, 08:51 AM

the low cut thing is good, unless you´re doing som major low tuning. meshuggah, for example, still have som nice low end in their guitar,s and the bass only adds the lowest frequencies. they also have the "fundamental" kick frequncy at like 45 Hz, which is pretty damn deep :P

Ishan · 08-30-2008, 08:58 AM

The new mix kicks ass, now go get a real bass

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08-26-2008, 01:29 PM	#1
TravisMontgomery SS.org Regular Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 474 Thanked: 83 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	BK pickup clip (S2.0/Podx3/Painkiller) I got my new bridge pickup yesterday. A Bareknuckle Painkiller. This thing is siiiick. Here's a little thing I wrote today to make a clip. SoundClick artist: KirkPetrucci - I lurb t3h p0lyrhythms!

08-26-2008, 01:56 PM	#3
Ishan Giant Fridge Magnet Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Paris, France. Posts: 4,271 Thanked: 25 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Very cool but it needs a bass track Current rig : Agile Intrepid Pro with Lace Aluma Deathbar pickup -> Eleven Rack + TC G-Major -> ESI Near 5 Experience My string tension calculator STC - supports most D'addarrio and Circle K Strings

08-26-2008, 07:31 PM	#5
friendforafoe Chugga+Djent=Happy Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Washington DC Posts: 677 Thanked: 39 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	methinks you should add some mids to your rhythm tone...seems a bit too scooped and tinny. Those pups sound great though bro! "I'm so metal I shit studs" My Music: Facebook, Soundclick, Soundcloud, Myspace Free EP: http://friendforafoe.bandcamp.com Want to learn Audio Production? Check out my BandHappy profile for more info: http://www.bandhappy.com/profile/ChrisPurvis Recording Shtuffs: Intel Core i7-2600 3.4GHz, 8GB DDR3 RAM, 2x 1TB HDD, Steinberg Cubase 5, the ENTIRE Toontrack library (we're fully endorsed!), Axe-FX II, Darkglass B7K, Line 6 Pod Farm 2, and much much more!

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08-26-2008, 01:33 PM	#2
CentaurPorn ss.org Regular Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Fredericton NB Posts: 1,024 Thanked: 27 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Wow! Sounds tighter than a mosquitos Anus. Now I need a 7 without the damn EMG pu routing.

08-26-2008, 09:27 PM	#7
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08-26-2008, 11:20 PM	#8
jessoceans ss.org Regular Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Canada Posts: 41 Thanked: 0 Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Those pups sound really clear and tight, I like it.

08-27-2008, 12:13 AM	#9
Kronpox shrent? shrent. Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Toronto, ON Posts: 790 Thanked: 17 Feedback Score: 1 reviews	It, uh... sounds horrible? Sorry, but imo the high end is really harsh and I can't hear anything except pick scrapes (you've possibly discovered the meaning of 'too much djent'). I'm sure the pickups are awesome, but this recording sure ain't... Up the mids and down the highs and make those things growl!

08-27-2008, 12:20 AM	#10
zimbloth Nick // Axe Palace Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Boston Posts: 16,664 Thanked: 179 Feedback Score: 47 reviews	It sounds good, excellent playing. Tasteful riffage and leads, love it. Travis have you tried recording with impulses before? All you'd need is to connect your head to the recorder, load up the impulse file of your choice, mute the dry signal, and BOOM - serious professional mic'd up tone but direct. No cab necessary (if you have a dummy load, such as a Hot Plate). It would sound a lot better than the POD, which of course is very limiting. Otherwise, kickass bro The Axe Palace <-- Dealer for: Ibanez, BKP, DiMarzio, ENGL, Diezel, Orange, Fryette, ESP, Caparison, PRS, Vigier, Dean , Parker, Flaxwood, G&L, Schecter USA and many more. NEW WEBSITE IS NOW LIVE: www.axepalace.com

08-27-2008, 12:57 AM	#11
TravisMontgomery SS.org Regular Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 474 Thanked: 83 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Kronpox: Yeah, I wasn't too sure about this mix at allllll. These pickups sound way different than my EMG's, so I still don't have a good patch for them. This was just a patch I made really quick, which obviously didn't sound too good haha. zimbloth: Nope I haven't tried impulses, but I've been interested in trying them! Unfortunately all of my gear is in back in Hamilton, so all that I have is the POD. I'm going to try to get a JSX for here at home, so I'll definitely look into impulses. Any good sound clips for an example on how it sounds?

08-27-2008, 03:11 PM	#13
TravisMontgomery SS.org Regular Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 474 Thanked: 83 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I took Kronpox's advice an remixed it. What do you guys think?

08-27-2008, 03:38 PM	#14
SymmetricScars SS.org Regular Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Orange County Posts: 444 Thanked: 3 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I never heard the old mix, so I can't compare, but the new mix is tiiight as hell. Definitely sounds like a good pup The Sun sets forever over Blackwater Park

08-27-2008, 03:59 PM	#15
drawnQ ss.org Regular Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: TX Posts: 354 Thanked: 3 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	some EQ problems with the guitar. add a bass track and then EQ the guitars. it feels like something is missing in the sound

08-27-2008, 04:45 PM	#17
Ruins Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Germany Posts: 2,061 Thanked: 18 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	awesome riffage! the tone could have some more meat in it though add some mids

08-27-2008, 05:53 PM	#18
zimbloth Nick // Axe Palace Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Boston Posts: 16,664 Thanked: 179 Feedback Score: 47 reviews	Try boosting the guitars around 200hz, with a High Pass Filter around 80-120hz. If you want more midrange snarl boost 1.5khz a bit. Bass-wise, try boosting around 100-120hz as well as ~400-600 (whatever corresponds to the punchiness of the bass, depends). The Axe Palace <-- Dealer for: Ibanez, BKP, DiMarzio, ENGL, Diezel, Orange, Fryette, ESP, Caparison, PRS, Vigier, Dean , Parker, Flaxwood, G&L, Schecter USA and many more. NEW WEBSITE IS NOW LIVE: www.axepalace.com

08-27-2008, 06:08 PM	#19
angus SS.org Regular Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: New Haven, CT Posts: 759 Thanked: 5 Feedback Score: 4 reviews	I liked the track a lot! I'd listen to it anytime. What were the drum tracks done with? Nice job dude. Agree about the highs- it's pretty harsh. I'd up the low mids only, as the high mids don't seem to really be as necessary in this case. Zimbloth, I'm curious why you'd run the HPF- what's your reasoning on that? Sounds to me like he could run a LPF set high to cut out some of the harshness. Edit: I can't read for shit.

08-27-2008, 06:18 PM	#20
Plankis ss.org Regular Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Sweden Posts: 412 Thanked: 10 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Now it sounds good. The first mix was really mean to my ears, couldn't listen to it at all. Mucho better. MySpace.com/Plankis SoundClick.com/Plankis

08-27-2008, 11:23 PM	#22
angus SS.org Regular Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: New Haven, CT Posts: 759 Thanked: 5 Feedback Score: 4 reviews	Hhhmm, interesting. I'll do some recordings and try that approach out. I'll mess around with it. I'm not sure if I agree with the idea of attenuating the low frequencies/fundamentals, but I suppose I won't know until I try! Now I'm curious though. If it's not clear, I don't do a lot of heavy guitar recording! I mostly deal with instruments in the recording studio that don't plug in! EDIT: I'm just not thinking well tonight.

08-30-2008, 08:51 AM	#24
MF_Kitten Fully Ramblomatic Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Stavanger, Norway Posts: 8,981 Thanked: 297 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	the low cut thing is good, unless you´re doing som major low tuning. meshuggah, for example, still have som nice low end in their guitar,s and the bass only adds the lowest frequencies. they also have the "fundamental" kick frequncy at like 45 Hz, which is pretty damn deep :P -------------------------------------- What will metal be doing in ten years? What ever Meshuggah will be doing in two. -Anthony

08-30-2008, 08:58 AM	#25
Ishan Giant Fridge Magnet Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Paris, France. Posts: 4,271 Thanked: 25 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	The new mix kicks ass, now go get a real bass Current rig : Agile Intrepid Pro with Lace Aluma Deathbar pickup -> Eleven Rack + TC G-Major -> ESI Near 5 Experience My string tension calculator STC - supports most D'addarrio and Circle K Strings

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