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Old 05-19-2008, 02:15 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Suggestion to make a solo sound good in the mix?

I can get a pretty descent overall sound but for the most i think the sound of my solos generally sound a little too dry and ''demo-ish''

Which effects would you suggest I try using around to have a kick ass solo sound in my mix?

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Old 05-19-2008, 02:26 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Well, if it sounds "dry" in the mix, a touch of delay (my preferred method) or reverb would seem to be in order...

Also, how are you EQ'ing your leads in the mix?

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I add a bit of verb and delay... just enough to cover up all my slop.
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If you can play really tight, double tracking can work wonders too. Depends on the solo though. Otherwise, reverb, delay, mabye some compression... experiment!
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Also, how are you EQ'ing your leads in the mix?
actually i use exactly the same guitar distortion than my rythmn guitar, i tried a little delay but still nothing impressive in the past, maybe i could use a reverb in extra

but what about that EQ thing, what would you suggest in terms of Solo versus rythmn sound

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actually i use exactly the same guitar distortion than my rythmn guitar, i tried a little delay but still nothing impressive in the past, maybe i could use a reverb in extra

but what about that EQ thing, what would you suggest in terms of Solo versus rythmn sound

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Mids-High Mids will make it stand out more and give more attack, but if it's too saturated/aggressive or dry maybe take them down and add more body? Reverb and delay in small doses might take the edge off it a bit aswell...how much distortion and presence are you using at input level?

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actually i use exactly the same guitar distortion than my rythmn guitar, i tried a little delay but still nothing impressive in the past, maybe i could use a reverb in extra

but what about that EQ thing, what would you suggest in terms of Solo versus rythmn sound

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Oh, I almost never use the exact same amp settings for two diffent parts - it helps differentiate the guitars in the mix.

I typically run a high-pass a little higher on my leads than my rhythms - depending on the sound, anywhere from 120hz to 200hz with a Q around 1.0 or so. Also, I've taken towards rolling off a lttle of the high end on the rhythm tracks, maybe a low-pass at around 8khz or so, and while I don't feel I've got a good enough grasp on the exact frequencies yet to recommend anything, a slight upper mid boost in the 1.5-3khz range, maybe a decibel or two, Q between 1 ans 2 or so - can help the lead poke through a little bit.

That said, even varying up your lead and your rhythm tone will make a world of difference. Try cutting the gain on your rhythm tone, double-tracking, and panning hard left and right, and then adding more midrange than you normally use on your lead sound.
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Drew: with high pass do you mean give the lead more or less high frequency?

thanks for the input i'll try working with those frequencies

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The clip sounds pretty good right now. For leads I switch off my screamer and switch on my guitar's preamp that offers a nice kick in gain and bottom end plus some volume and body, then I add some verb. Perhaps if you got another boost pedal that might help?
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Oh, I almost never use the exact same amp settings for two diffent parts - it helps differentiate the guitars in the mix.

I typically run a high-pass a little higher on my leads than my rhythms - depending on the sound, anywhere from 120hz to 200hz with a Q around 1.0 or so. Also, I've taken towards rolling off a lttle of the high end on the rhythm tracks, maybe a low-pass at around 8khz or so, and while I don't feel I've got a good enough grasp on the exact frequencies yet to recommend anything, a slight upper mid boost in the 1.5-3khz range, maybe a decibel or two, Q between 1 ans 2 or so - can help the lead poke through a little bit.

That said, even varying up your lead and your rhythm tone will make a world of difference. Try cutting the gain on your rhythm tone, double-tracking, and panning hard left and right, and then adding more midrange than you normally use on your lead sound.
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High mids (around 1.5-2.20khz) will make you hear it more. I would suggest finding something in there that isn't being used by any other instruments, and pushing it (I boost my bass at 2.2, so I would use 1.8, ect).
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