Need help mixing this

keithb · 01-16-2008, 08:25 PM

I need some help mixing a new tune. This is my first attempt at recording acoustic guitar and vocals (just got an AT2020 mic) and I have a lot to learn. I realize there are some clams in there but I figured I'd better get it 'finished' before I lost interest and ended up with ANOTHER song "waiting to be finished"

Tear it apart!

newamerikangospel · 01-16-2008, 08:38 PM

Unless you are trying for the "unpolished but sincere" vocal lines, then I would pull the voice back a bit and add some wide stereo reverb, with a long delay, but mixed very subtely (think massive concert hall).

Harray 18 · 01-16-2008, 09:45 PM

ye he's got it, cut the vocals and add some subtle verb and delay to make it sound less 2d
maybe some very subtle verb and delay on the guiatr aswell

keithb · 01-17-2008, 10:46 PM

Dropped the vocals a bit, changed the reverb. Better? Worse? Keith should stop trying to sing and just stick to noodling where noone can hear him?

JBroll · 01-18-2008, 03:49 AM

Do you have any other mics? It might be helpful to use another one on the acoustic (say, have the AT2020 at a distance, and a good dynamic like an i5 or 57 at an angle over the 12th fret or straight on the top-part-thing-where-a-cutaway-on-a-Strat-would-be) for a less 2D image.

Jeff

stuh84 · 01-18-2008, 03:51 AM

Yeah, best acoustic sound I ever got was from an Oktava MK012 on the soundhole, and a friends nameless condenser on the neck.......the tone was to die for, best acoustic tone I've ever recorded.

JBroll · 01-18-2008, 04:13 AM

You need to check your recordings if you use two mics to make sure phase cancellation isn't a problem - generally, the 3 to 1 rule is good enough to start with and at most minor tweaks are needed.

Jeff

keithb · 01-18-2008, 11:42 AM

I have an old dynamic kicking around - I'll give it a try when I get home today.

Chris · 01-18-2008, 11:58 AM

Sounds pretty good dude! A little raw but I love the overall acoustic tone. Dialed in a little more it should be warm as hell.

Only side note: The verse riff sounds dangerously close to Every Rose Has It's Thorn.

keithb · 01-18-2008, 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris

Only side note: The verse riff sounds dangerously close to Every Rose Has It's Thorn.

Yes, yes it is. G/C is a dangerous progression. I've considered changing the key just to get away from Every Rose

01-16-2008, 08:25 PM	#1
keithb Carvin Zealot Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Providence, RI Posts: 1,124 Real Name: Keith Main Seven: Carvin DC747 Rig: Mesa Nomad/PODxt Thanked: 13	Need help mixing this I need some help mixing a new tune. This is my first attempt at recording acoustic guitar and vocals (just got an AT2020 mic) and I have a lot to learn. I realize there are some clams in there but I figured I'd better get it 'finished' before I lost interest and ended up with ANOTHER song "waiting to be finished" Tear it apart!

01-18-2008, 11:58 AM	#9
Chris Adminishredder Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Boston, Mass Posts: 16,619 Real Name: Mr. F. Johnson Main Seven: Sherman Custom Main ERG: Douglas 6ST Bass Rig: 2101 -> S160 -> Mesa Thanked: 535	Sounds pretty good dude! A little raw but I love the overall acoustic tone. Dialed in a little more it should be warm as hell. Only side note: The verse riff sounds dangerously close to Every Rose Has It's Thorn. Metalguitarist.org

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01-16-2008, 08:38 PM	#2
newamerikangospel HA HA!...Avatar! Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 1,261 Real Name: lepsognakiremaw Main Seven: Schecter Gryphon Rig: GNX>H&K4x12-Hrtk2x15 Thanked: 13	Unless you are trying for the "unpolished but sincere" vocal lines, then I would pull the voice back a bit and add some wide stereo reverb, with a long delay, but mixed very subtely (think massive concert hall).

01-16-2008, 09:45 PM	#3
Harray 18 ss.org Regular Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Aylesbury, UK Posts: 81 Real Name: Harry Main Seven: Ibanez Rg7321 Rig: ____ -> Marshall Thanked: 2	ye he's got it, cut the vocals and add some subtle verb and delay to make it sound less 2d maybe some very subtle verb and delay on the guiatr aswell

01-17-2008, 10:46 PM	#4
keithb Carvin Zealot Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Providence, RI Posts: 1,124 Real Name: Keith Main Seven: Carvin DC747 Rig: Mesa Nomad/PODxt Thanked: 13	Dropped the vocals a bit, changed the reverb. Better? Worse? Keith should stop trying to sing and just stick to noodling where noone can hear him?

01-18-2008, 03:49 AM	#5
JBroll Hard-On For Freedom Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: San Antonio, TX, USA Posts: 2,540 Thanked: 18	Do you have any other mics? It might be helpful to use another one on the acoustic (say, have the AT2020 at a distance, and a good dynamic like an i5 or 57 at an angle over the 12th fret or straight on the top-part-thing-where-a-cutaway-on-a-Strat-would-be) for a less 2D image. Jeff

01-18-2008, 03:51 AM	#6
stuh84 The Viking himself Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Sheffield, UK Posts: 2,149 Real Name: Stuart Main Seven: LTD M207 and Jackson RR7R Main ERG: Intrepid Pro soon :D Rig: Invader 150 Thanked: 17	Yeah, best acoustic sound I ever got was from an Oktava MK012 on the soundhole, and a friends nameless condenser on the neck.......the tone was to die for, best acoustic tone I've ever recorded.

01-18-2008, 04:13 AM	#7
JBroll Hard-On For Freedom Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: San Antonio, TX, USA Posts: 2,540 Thanked: 18	You need to check your recordings if you use two mics to make sure phase cancellation isn't a problem - generally, the 3 to 1 rule is good enough to start with and at most minor tweaks are needed. Jeff

01-18-2008, 11:42 AM	#8
keithb Carvin Zealot Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Providence, RI Posts: 1,124 Real Name: Keith Main Seven: Carvin DC747 Rig: Mesa Nomad/PODxt Thanked: 13	I have an old dynamic kicking around - I'll give it a try when I get home today.


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