Building a NEW Cpu!!! Need HELP!!!

Coryd · 01-10-2008, 02:38 PM

I am in the process of building a new computer and i am looking to upgrade to Windows Vista. I was wondering if anyone has had any issues at all with Vista and recording in general? Any input would be greatly appreciated.

Apophis · 01-10-2008, 03:08 PM

In my opinion stay with XP at least till Vista SP1

thadood · 01-10-2008, 03:13 PM

I agree with Apophis.

And you're not building a CPU, are you? Millions and millions of little transistors.. that'd be pretty hard to do by hand!

KaLeVaLA · 01-10-2008, 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Apophis

In my opinion stay with XP at least till Vista SP1

Second that! I have heard from X number of sources that XP is the way to go for now...thats what i did

DomitianX · 01-10-2008, 03:17 PM

With every new version of Windows comes problems with current software. Wait until Vista is patched with SP1 at least and whatever software you have is approved for Vista SP1.

I know the user protection stuff in Vista has caused me a ton of headaches in software I use at work and code in a few apps I have written.

Randy · 01-10-2008, 03:20 PM

Another vote for XP. My guitar player was using Vista with his recording gear, and some of the drivers didn't work.

Greg Pope · 01-10-2008, 03:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Apophis

In my opinion stay with XP at least till Vista SP1

What he said, Vista does look nice, But a lot software and hardware is not compatible with the new OS.

Coryd · 01-10-2008, 04:01 PM

Thanks for all the replies.

Apparently, SP1 is supposed to be released any day from what i have been told....

Does anyone here use Vista?

ukfswmart · 01-10-2008, 04:09 PM

Leopard and XP for me, no problems with either

newamerikangospel · 01-10-2008, 07:23 PM

I would say, xp because

1 its cheaper unless U R a H4x0rz

2 Its not quite the resource hog (which is a reason EVERYONE has about every operating system that comes out of the predecesser)

3 Xp handles most drivers (if not all) for your peripherals.

Neal · 01-11-2008, 02:00 AM

other than sticking with vista, what other advice is there for building a recording machine? I'm looking at doing this too since my Mac took a shit on me. What are the best parts / things to be careful for / how much should you expect to spend? I've had a hard time finding much straightforward info on this subject.

ukfswmart · 01-11-2008, 05:33 AM

What happened to your Mac?

7 Dying Trees · 01-11-2008, 05:37 AM

Get XP. ANd if you want vista as well, then dual boot your machine onto seperate drives. It's not hard to do. That way you can also segregate operating systems and keep one clean for music, and use the other for apps and games. Like having two pc's in one

Neal · 01-11-2008, 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ukfswmart

What happened to your Mac?

something failed in the power supply and in turn fried my processors. there was actually smoke coming out of it. Not sure if the mother board is fucked or not. whats really awsome is that I bought it used a year ago so there's no warranty. I was never all that impressed with the Mac so I'm considering building or buying a PC and going back to Windows. Not totally sure yet. All I know is I cant afford to buy a new Mac and the for the cost of fully repairing mine I could probably build something faster anyway.

smueske · 01-12-2008, 02:58 AM

Also, if you have to prioritize where the money goes, spend it on a good motherboard and good memory. Don't buy cheap memory! I haven't used Vista, but I hear a lot of horror stories. I use XP and have very few problems.

Neal · 01-12-2008, 04:47 PM

what are good brands of boards and memory?
what about Athlon vs. Pentium processors?
are computer parts like gear in the aspect that just because it's expensive doesn't mean it's good?
also, is it better to have one big hard drive or multiple drives?

ukfswmart · 01-12-2008, 04:56 PM

Multiple drives, for sure; you should always keep apps and data on separate drives. If you're worried about one drive dying, you could get two drives for your data, a RAID controller card and mirror them, which basically means that the data is written to both drives so that, if one of the drives goes tits up on you, the data is still safe on the other drive in the array

Neal · 01-12-2008, 05:19 PM

Thanks. sounds like good advice. is that why dual processors are supposed to be the shit?

ukfswmart · 01-12-2008, 05:22 PM

Ever heard the phrase 'two heads are better than one'? Same logic applies

dissident · 01-12-2008, 05:30 PM

mac.

Chris · 01-12-2008, 05:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Apophis

In my opinion stay with XP at least till Vista SP1

I just rolled back from Vista to XP the other day - stick with XP, imo.

Leec · 01-12-2008, 10:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Denied by Christ

other than sticking with vista, what other advice is there for building a recording machine? I'm looking at doing this too since my Mac took a shit on me. What are the best parts / things to be careful for / how much should you expect to spend? I've had a hard time finding much straightforward info on this subject.

I'm shopping about for a new machine to run Cubase SX with DFHS and lots of other plug-ins on. Some of the benchmarks I'm setting myself (and hoping to exceed) are:
2.4 ghz dual processor with 2mb+ cache
2gb of ram
Mobo that'll take 4 sticks of 667 or 800 speed ram and oodles of pci slots.

And I'm another one for the XP-brigade. It simply works.

Neal · 01-15-2008, 01:28 PM

can you get a laptop with two hard drives?

Benzesp · 01-15-2008, 01:38 PM

XP is tried and true. Vista is a resource pig even with Areo turned off. Why cause yourself unnecessary headache?

ukfswmart · 01-15-2008, 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neal

can you get a laptop with two hard drives?

Not that I'm aware of. I can't think of a laptop manufacturer that would sacrifice form factor for storage capacity, especially considering laptops aren't meant to replace desktop machines where you can shovel as much disk space in as you wish

01-10-2008, 02:38 PM	#1
Coryd ss.org Regular Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: The South Posts: 622 Thanked: 10	Building a NEW Cpu!!! Need HELP!!! I am in the process of building a new computer and i am looking to upgrade to Windows Vista. I was wondering if anyone has had any issues at all with Vista and recording in general? Any input would be greatly appreciated. __________________ http://www.soundclick.com/d20 http://www.myspace.com/endingsedge http://www.youtube.com/user/D20band

01-10-2008, 03:08 PM	#2
Apophis ROTER CUSTOM GUITARS Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Poland Posts: 17,481 Thanked: 67	In my opinion stay with XP at least till Vista SP1 __________________

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01-10-2008, 03:17 PM	#5
DomitianX Oxygen Converter Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Faribault, MN Posts: 382 Thanked: 8	With every new version of Windows comes problems with current software. Wait until Vista is patched with SP1 at least and whatever software you have is approved for Vista SP1. I know the user protection stuff in Vista has caused me a ton of headaches in software I use at work and code in a few apps I have written.

01-10-2008, 04:09 PM	#9
ukfswmart Far too opinionated Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: UK Posts: 454 Thanked: 0	Leopard and XP for me, no problems with either

01-10-2008, 07:23 PM	#10
newamerikangospel Tonight.......you Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 1,785 Thanked: 23	I would say, xp because 1 its cheaper unless U R a H4x0rz 2 Its not quite the resource hog (which is a reason EVERYONE has about every operating system that comes out of the predecesser) 3 Xp handles most drivers (if not all) for your peripherals.

01-11-2008, 02:00 AM	#11
Neal Down-pick or die Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: shredville Posts: 240 Thanked: 3	other than sticking with vista, what other advice is there for building a recording machine? I'm looking at doing this too since my Mac took a shit on me. What are the best parts / things to be careful for / how much should you expect to spend? I've had a hard time finding much straightforward info on this subject.

01-11-2008, 05:33 AM	#12
ukfswmart Far too opinionated Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: UK Posts: 454 Thanked: 0	What happened to your Mac?

01-11-2008, 05:37 AM	#13
7 Dying Trees Sarcy English Twat Join Date: May 2004 Location: 7th Ethereal Plane of interstellar hell, Innit Bruv, Safe, London, UK Posts: 8,415 Thanked: 127	Get XP. ANd if you want vista as well, then dual boot your machine onto seperate drives. It's not hard to do. That way you can also segregate operating systems and keep one clean for music, and use the other for apps and games. Like having two pc's in one __________________ The Chaos has come: www.chaosanct.com

01-12-2008, 02:58 AM	#15
smueske ss.org Regular Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Midwest Posts: 591 Thanked: 6	Also, if you have to prioritize where the money goes, spend it on a good motherboard and good memory. Don't buy cheap memory! I haven't used Vista, but I hear a lot of horror stories. I use XP and have very few problems. __________________ Steve http://myspace.com/stevemueske

01-12-2008, 04:47 PM	#16
Neal Down-pick or die Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: shredville Posts: 240 Thanked: 3	what are good brands of boards and memory? what about Athlon vs. Pentium processors? are computer parts like gear in the aspect that just because it's expensive doesn't mean it's good? also, is it better to have one big hard drive or multiple drives?

01-12-2008, 04:56 PM	#17
ukfswmart Far too opinionated Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: UK Posts: 454 Thanked: 0	Multiple drives, for sure; you should always keep apps and data on separate drives. If you're worried about one drive dying, you could get two drives for your data, a RAID controller card and mirror them, which basically means that the data is written to both drives so that, if one of the drives goes tits up on you, the data is still safe on the other drive in the array

01-12-2008, 05:19 PM	#18
Neal Down-pick or die Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: shredville Posts: 240 Thanked: 3	Thanks. sounds like good advice. is that why dual processors are supposed to be the shit?

01-12-2008, 05:22 PM	#19
ukfswmart Far too opinionated Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: UK Posts: 454 Thanked: 0	Ever heard the phrase 'two heads are better than one'? Same logic applies

01-12-2008, 05:30 PM	#20
dissident ss.org Regular Join Date: May 2007 Location: Sheffield Posts: 236 Thanked: 8	mac. __________________ www.myspace.com/naisian Band, check it ftwz.

01-15-2008, 01:28 PM	#23
Neal Down-pick or die Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: shredville Posts: 240 Thanked: 3	can you get a laptop with two hard drives?

01-15-2008, 01:38 PM	#24
Benzesp ComputerBlue Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Austin,TX Posts: 1,128 Thanked: 29	XP is tried and true. Vista is a resource pig even with Areo turned off. Why cause yourself unnecessary headache?

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