Great tutorial on recording heavy guitars

VA-Exception · 05-06-2008, 12:51 PM

Haha, not only informative but a great laugh. This really helped me recording my old band (Who have now broken up *sad face*). Am I fuck cutting away the grill from my Mesa 4x12 though haha

Drew · 05-08-2008, 03:46 PM

Yeah, theres actually a lot I don't agree with here - his approach to mic positioning and mine are quite different, and I'm a firm believer that the room sound matters fuck-all compared to the sound from 2" in front of the speaker - but nothing he's saying here is invalid, and it's fucking great material.

Rick · 05-08-2008, 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Drew

Yeah, theres actually a lot I don't agree with here - his approach to mic positioning and mine are quite different, and I'm a firm believer that the room sound matters fuck-all compared to the sound from 2" in front of the speaker - but nothing he's saying here is invalid, and it's fucking great material.

If you can stay awake to finish it all.

swayman · 06-06-2008, 06:04 AM

"If you gotta EQ, something is wrong. Wrong mic, wrong pre, wrong placement, wrong guitar, wrong amp, wrong player (so kill me), wrong SOMETHING. Go change it...."

I've always applied that part of theory. So many guys I've done recordings for ask me "can't you just EQ it/edit it in Pro Tools". I always reply "I sure could, or you could stop being such a fucking pussy & play it properly".

Quote:

Originally Posted by Drew

Yeah, theres actually a lot I don't agree with here - his approach to mic positioning and mine are quite different, and I'm a firm believer that the room sound matters fuck-all compared to the sound from 2" in front of the speaker - but nothing he's saying here is invalid, and it's fucking great material.

I've only read a page or so of it, it is an entertaining read to say the least.

Some of the shit he talks about is really interesting, kinda makes you reconcider what you're doing. But yeah, other stuff like room dynamics, I disagree...

I too believe that you can have a fantastic room, but with a shit rig & guitarists it'll sound like ass. But if you experiment with placement of cabs, mic etc in a crap room, you CAN get a killer sound.

I was tracking my guitars in a broken sauna. Most of the room oak wood, the rest concrete. After stuffing around for an hour or so with cab & mic placement, I pulled an absolute monster of a sound. The right player & the right rig with the right mic are key in my view.

Not everybody has the luxury of having a completely acousticly treated room.

TheSixthWheel · 06-12-2008, 11:42 AM

What an awesome guide. It's a testament to trial and error and correct training. I'm about 15 pages in and already I want every single piece of equipment which has been referenced which I don't already own, which is depressingly most of it.

Great guide filled with great material! I love the presentation too. More often than not I've found similar information cleverly camouflaged within textbooks of various sizes and ALL of them are boring as hell. You get a few pages in and your eyes start to droop and it's nothin' but Z's. But this guide makes me mentally picture the recording process in some dusty old recording space. BRAVO!

Seven · 06-13-2008, 04:48 PM

Hell, thanks for bumping this, I nearly missed out and this is awesome. Very informative, and funny.

CrushingAnvil · 10-30-2008, 09:33 AM

This guy Is an AE Encylopedia

Mattayus · 10-30-2008, 09:41 AM

yeah man it's taken me nearly a year to read it all

but it's amazing and i hope it's never taken down!

Moro · 01-04-2009, 02:50 AM

The audio lessons at the bottom are killer too. Great info.

On a side note... Talk about dark sense of humor lol!

Arsis · 05-05-2009, 11:03 PM

I feel kind of embarrassed to say this but I cant understand what the fk that guy is talking about. Maybe i'm an idiot lol. He does not talk normal lol.

snuif09 · 06-27-2009, 09:05 AM

o this guy is a hero =) he actually makes it fun to read

cyril v · 08-12-2009, 07:33 PM

holy hell., just saw this for the first time.

that is a fucking brain dump if i've ever seen one.

SomeChump · 09-20-2009, 03:58 AM

Man, this is deep. Definitely will have to read this when it's not 4 AM. This guy knows his shit.

Sliggy · 09-27-2009, 02:12 PM

this man is a god. he makes me feel inadequate. i've so far to go.

..

Necrophagist777 · 10-30-2009, 12:31 AM

I've been struggling getting a decent mic'ed tone and I've finally got it thanks to this thread!

Sliggy · 11-13-2009, 11:37 PM

It's Tim Gilles. Produces bands like Madball, Agnostic Front, Thursday, Taking Back Sunday etc.

right_to_rage · Yesterday, 01:05 AM

Great article, it definitely made an impression on my recording skills in the last few months.

05-08-2008, 03:46 PM	#27
Drew Fear the Polo! Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Somerville, MA Posts: 21,484 Thanked: 145	Yeah, theres actually a lot I don't agree with here - his approach to mic positioning and mine are quite different, and I'm a firm believer that the room sound matters fuck-all compared to the sound from 2" in front of the speaker - but nothing he's saying here is invalid, and it's fucking great material. __________________ "...and everything under the sun is in tune, but the sun is eclipsed by the moon." http://www.metalguitarist.org

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10-30-2008, 09:41 AM	#33
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05-06-2008, 12:51 PM	#26
VA-Exception ss.org Regular Join Date: May 2008 Location: Edinburgh Posts: 69 Thanked: 2	Haha, not only informative but a great laugh. This really helped me recording my old band (Who have now broken up sad face). Am I fuck cutting away the grill from my Mesa 4x12 though haha

06-12-2008, 11:42 AM	#30
TheSixthWheel Hello, good times? Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: VIC. Australia Posts: 1,220 Thanked: 18	What an awesome guide. It's a testament to trial and error and correct training. I'm about 15 pages in and already I want every single piece of equipment which has been referenced which I don't already own, which is depressingly most of it. Great guide filled with great material! I love the presentation too. More often than not I've found similar information cleverly camouflaged within textbooks of various sizes and ALL of them are boring as hell. You get a few pages in and your eyes start to droop and it's nothin' but Z's. But this guide makes me mentally picture the recording process in some dusty old recording space. BRAVO!

06-13-2008, 04:48 PM	#31
Seven Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: North Wales Posts: 466 Thanked: 9	Hell, thanks for bumping this, I nearly missed out and this is awesome. Very informative, and funny.

05-05-2009, 11:03 PM	#35
Arsis Serious cuntage Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Monett Missouri Posts: 297 Thanked: 3	I feel kind of embarrassed to say this but I cant understand what the fk that guy is talking about. Maybe i'm an idiot lol. He does not talk normal lol.

06-27-2009, 09:05 AM	#36
snuif09 ss.org Regular Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Hoorn,The Netherlands Posts: 388 Thanked: 7	o this guy is a hero =) he actually makes it fun to read

08-12-2009, 07:33 PM	#37
cyril v ss.org Regular Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: New Jersey Posts: 1,934 Thanked: 12	holy hell., just saw this for the first time. that is a fucking brain dump if i've ever seen one.

09-20-2009, 03:58 AM	#38
SomeChump ss.org Regular Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Terre Haute, IN Posts: 78 Thanked: 4	Man, this is deep. Definitely will have to read this when it's not 4 AM. This guy knows his shit.

09-27-2009, 02:12 PM	#39
Sliggy ss.org Regular Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Australia Posts: 288 Thanked: 25	this man is a god. he makes me feel inadequate. i've so far to go. ..

11-13-2009, 11:37 PM	#41
Sliggy ss.org Regular Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Australia Posts: 288 Thanked: 25	It's Tim Gilles. Produces bands like Madball, Agnostic Front, Thursday, Taking Back Sunday etc.

Yesterday, 01:05 AM	#42
right_to_rage Sweet 16 Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Ottawa Posts: 502 Thanked: 8	Great article, it definitely made an impression on my recording skills in the last few months.

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