homepage   sevenstring guitars   sevenstring registry   photo gallery   subscription   spy 
Sevenstring.org - The Seven String Guitar Authority
Go Back   SevenString.org > Music Discussion > Recording Studio
LIKE SS.org on Facebook FOLLOW SS.org on Twitter
  
Recording Studio Discussion on everything recording based, such as mixing, mastering, mics, monitors and other gear.

Like Tree1Likes
  • 1 Post By niffnoff

Reply
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Unread 05-24-2012, 08:17 PM   #1
ss.org Regular
 
BillMurray's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: London
Posts: 88
Thanked: 0
BillMurray is on a distinguished road
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recorded a track and tried to master it. What do you think?

This is the gear I used.
. Line 6 Spider 4 (Guitar head into the Toneport)
. Toneport GX
. Clark Kent Impulses
. Cubase
. Gibson (Not very good pickups)
. Superior Drummer 2.0

Criticism welcome and appreciated

LINK TO THE SONG: Track 3 by BillMurray on SoundCloud - Create, record and share your sounds for free
BillMurray is offline   Reply With Quote
Alt Today
Seven String

Beitrag Sponsored Links

__________________
This advertising will not be shown in this way to registered members.
Register your free account today and become a member on SevenString.org
   
Unread 05-24-2012, 09:37 PM   #2
Banned
 
in-pursuit's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Rosewood, QLD, Australia
Posts: 1,168
Thanked: 21
in-pursuit is just really nicein-pursuit is just really nice
Feedback Score: 8 reviews
Do you mean mix or master? I thought mastering was more to do with volume levels and what not for multiple tracks on an album or EP etc. I may be wrong though.

As far as the mix goes I'd probably try and work on the kick a little, theres way too much click and not much body to it for my tastes. Maybe bring the reverb on the snare down a fair bit as well, it's swimming a little. Everything is pretty well defined which is good, needs a bass track though
in-pursuit is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 05-24-2012, 09:39 PM   #3
Just another SunBro
 
niffnoff's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Rochester, NY
Posts: 1,465
Thanked: 12
niffnoff is a jewel in the rough
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
For a start your snare drum sounds lost to me, like I hear it under everything, like no crack at all. Your kick is very clicky but I think it's almost too much in the high register not enough punch. Compression and some raising of the lows (not the sub range more like 100hz-200hz) The toms sound like they are dead, no boominess or punch at all in those either. With your cymbals all I am hearing is hiss. Too much high frequencies aren't helping.

Your guitars are audible, very trebly and not cutting through as much. Give it a bit more low end and lose some treble in my opinion.

I used to be an arrow like you
But then I took a rock to the knee
Soundcloud was arrow to the knee
Facebook Music Page
niffnoff is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 05-24-2012, 09:40 PM   #4
Just another SunBro
 
niffnoff's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Rochester, NY
Posts: 1,465
Thanked: 12
niffnoff is a jewel in the rough
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
You almost ninja'd me dude ;_;
in-pursuit likes this.

I used to be an arrow like you
But then I took a rock to the knee
Soundcloud was arrow to the knee
Facebook Music Page
niffnoff is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 05-24-2012, 10:20 PM   #5
SS.org Regular
 
mlabonte's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Sandown, NH
Posts: 250
Thanked: 5
mlabonte has a spectacular aura about
Feedback Score: 1 reviews
Kick is far too clicky. Hardly resembles a kick haha. Turn off the reverb on the snare track or turn it WAY down. Its hiding the snare majorly. Drums in general need a ton of work. EQ compression limit, etc. Guitars are too trebly and they don't cut through. Theyre just weak man. Keep working on it!
mlabonte is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 05-25-2012, 07:57 AM   #6
ss.org Regular
 
BillMurray's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: London
Posts: 88
Thanked: 0
BillMurray is on a distinguished road
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Thank you for the feedback. I should of said this was my first attempt at mixing drums. I will take the criticism into consideration. And as far as mastering goes, I only said that because I used Ozone 5 and a Limiter etc. Which I believe are mastering tools?

Bill.
BillMurray is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 05-25-2012, 09:04 AM   #7
johnny
 
shnizzle's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: "Bitburg, Germany"
Posts: 146
Thanked: 4
shnizzle is a jewel in the rough
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
i think the kick has been cover pretty good. the snare sounds like itīs just reverb but no actual snare hit. i think you focused too much on making it loud in the room mics.
yes, ozone 5 and limiter are mastering tools. but donīt do mastering when your mix isnīt finished.
to clarify the difference, think of mixing as putting all the ingredients together for a cake. they have to be at the right ratios to make the cake have any chance of tasting good in the end. mastering is like putting it in the oven and making sure it doesnīt catch fire. if the mix is bad the oven canīt help it. if the mix is good but you burned the thing you can through it in the trash as well. in musical terms, you use filters, compression and EQ (basics for mixing) to put each instrument at itīs place in the audible frequency range from 20Hz-20kHz. in mastering you use compression, limiting and EQ on the whole mix (not on individual tracks) to refine the mix and make it louder without squashing it to death.
shnizzle is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 05-25-2012, 09:56 AM   #8
ss.org Regular
 
BillMurray's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: London
Posts: 88
Thanked: 0
BillMurray is on a distinguished road
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Awesome, thanks for the feedback.
BillMurray is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 05-25-2012, 12:29 PM   #9
Just another SunBro
 
niffnoff's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Rochester, NY
Posts: 1,465
Thanked: 12
niffnoff is a jewel in the rough
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Quote:
Originally Posted by BillMurray View Post
And as far as mastering goes, I only said that because I used Ozone 5 and a Limiter etc. Which I believe are mastering tools?

Bill.
Mastering should NEVER be done while you are still mixing.

I used to be an arrow like you
But then I took a rock to the knee
Soundcloud was arrow to the knee
Facebook Music Page
niffnoff is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 05-26-2012, 09:58 AM   #10
SS.org Regular
 
mlabonte's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Sandown, NH
Posts: 250
Thanked: 5
mlabonte has a spectacular aura about
Feedback Score: 1 reviews
Quote:
Originally Posted by niffnoff View Post
Mastering should NEVER be done while you are still mixing.
That's an incorrect statement. You can master in your mix perfectly and I know those who do and they're mixes are fantastic. The main reason they say to stay away from it is because you'll start tweaking your mix to adjust for the master, not vice versa. If you leave the mix and master internally then there isn't a problem.
mlabonte is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 05-26-2012, 08:40 PM   #11
Just another SunBro
 
niffnoff's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Rochester, NY
Posts: 1,465
Thanked: 12
niffnoff is a jewel in the rough
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Quote:
Originally Posted by mlabonte View Post
That's an incorrect statement. You can master in your mix perfectly and I know those who do and they're mixes are fantastic. The main reason they say to stay away from it is because you'll start tweaking your mix to adjust for the master, not vice versa. If you leave the mix and master internally then there isn't a problem.
Eh I've been warned by 3 professional producers from it, but all to their own I guess. I've always been told to do it at the end of the mixing stage when you're finally happy with the mix.

I used to be an arrow like you
But then I took a rock to the knee
Soundcloud was arrow to the knee
Facebook Music Page
niffnoff is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 05-27-2012, 12:42 AM   #12
SS.org Regular
 
nosgulstic's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: California
Posts: 354
Thanked: 3
nosgulstic will become famous soon enough
Feedback Score: 4 reviews
I master while I mix. No point in mastering after and then finding out your snare gets lost when you're done. Though it also helps to get someone else to master it for an outside perspective on it.
nosgulstic is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:38 AM.


Our Network: PRS Guitar Forum | Luthier Forum | SG Guitar Forum | Les Paul Forum | Marshall Amp Forum | Acoustic Guitar Forum

SS.org proudly supports St. Jude Children's Research Hospital

Copyright © 2004-2014, SevenString.org. All Rights Reserved.