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Unread 05-09-2012, 08:42 PM   #1
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Absynth or Reason?

Im looking for a soft synth to use at home.

Basically I want something that relatively easy to use with a midi controller or just midi map in Cubase Elements 6.

Im looking at doing stuff like Sybreed or Black comedy:






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Unread 05-09-2012, 09:30 PM   #2
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I can recommend absynth, it has some amazing sounds.

However, I would also recommend saving up the extra $$ and going with omnisphere, as it will have anything you will ever need and more
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I have Reason, and I like Omnisphere a lot more.
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These guys are Australian and they are great to deal with. They have omnisphere really cheap: Sound Devices - Spectrasonics - Omnisphere - Spectrasonics
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See if you can track down Z3t+ v1, which was free. Really great synth with a lot of Nord lead sounds and more. V2 is available now for $99. But the free one is really good, though you may have to check KVR audio's database for it (lot's of free synths and recommendations there).

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Of course, Omnisphere is the best thing out there (IMO) but it can be a maze to navigate as there are so many presets it's hard to find a starting point, even with it's great search functions. Too much can be a good thing!
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Z3ta is great. Massive is great.

Absynth is great moreso for ambient pads but it WILL do anything.

These are all programmable. Omnisphere is sample based.
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I can recommend absynth, it has some amazing sounds.


However, I would also recommend saving up the extra $$ and going with omnisphere, as it will have anything you will ever need and more
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I have Reason, and I like Omnisphere a lot more.
Checking out yt vids now, seems really cool.

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See if you can track down Z3t+ v1, which was free. Really great synth with a lot of Nord lead sounds and more. V2 is available now for $99. But the free one is really good, though you may have to check KVR audio's database for it (lot's of free synths and recommendations there).

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Of course, Omnisphere is the best thing out there (IMO) but it can be a maze to navigate as there are so many presets it's hard to find a starting point, even with it's great search functions. Too much can be a good thing!
I have been searching KVR for a while now, lots of cool shit there. I was chasing one program that did the lot. Pads, leads & percussion and in depth but not confusing

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Z3ta is great. Massive is great.

Absynth is great moreso for ambient pads but it WILL do anything.

These are all programmable. Omnisphere is sample based.
I am rather familiar with Absynth and I love NI products, simple to use.

Omnisphere has got me very interested, I will look into it more and drop the reason idea. Reason seems kinda confusing with all the connecting and routing.

Would sample based stuff be easier to start off with?

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Omnisphere (for me) works like this:
I want a sound, I search for it, then you filter through patches till you find something you like. All the patches are divided into menus based on how they sound (ie, dreamy, drone etc), it's really easy to get your head around.


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I don't think sample based stuff is better or worse. You're familiar with Absynth - you know you can load up cool presets and change or create your own from scratch.
That's the only thing I don't like about programs like Omnisphere - not being able to make things from scratch. But it comes with great presets just the same
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I have had Reason 4,5, and now 6. I am very happy with it.
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Get Z3t+ v1!!!

If your reading this and YOU haven't already got it, DO! Find a good link and post it up!

V1 is freeware! It's as good as anything else and it's FREE!!!

It will do anything you can possibly require. Very cool synth. The latest version is available at a reasonable price if you want better features.

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I've ended up with a LOT of synths from KVR. Of my favourites, mellotrons are a lot of fun, sneaking them in as subtly as possible with some tape delay. A great sound!

The trouble with a lot of Synths is they date your music, so it has to be something pretty cool to be worthwhile. Lot's of cheese can be discovered in most preset banks.

A friend once told me:
"Keyboards and metal are like sex and condoms. It always feels better without one."

I'm still undecided, but I have loads of keyboards on most of my stuff.
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I used softsynth a lot for some of my projects ... Absynth, Z3 and some other ... even the built-in Cubase 6 padshop is a GREAT tool if you spend some time to create your own patches ...

if you do some Absynth stuff if recommend to look at

pluginguru.com - Quik-E Videos

there are tons of great sounds and lots of tutorials to do some great Absynths on your own ...

Reason is an other beast but if you just wanna get some synths in your metal you don t need reason at all.

You could check out Morphestra (very expensive) or Evolve if you like NI ... there are some good built in sounds to use instantly ...

But i d prefer to do my own presets and spend some work


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Reason blows. No VST support, limited existing patches, and honestly not as good as I'd remembered it. I loved it back in high school before I realised you can add VST's to FL Studio, so I got it again recently and just haven't used it

Absynth is the king of evolving pads. No way around it, it's fantastic for them. For bass patches or lead patches, however, I believe there are much better programs out there, Omnisphere is supposed to be one, and I have a few freebies you may even like - shoot us a PM.
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