DAW CPU Usage Confusion

[flint757]

Originally Posted by wasteband

yeah i was but its only 32 bit, so i decided to get Reaper, seemmed light on CPU (which it is) and so i decided it would be a good solution. But does anyone think its my Fast Track pro im using it with. Does anyone else use a Fast Track Pro and have shitty problems even with a decent computer?

That's possible. I have one, but I don't use it and I'm never running anything in particular when I use it so I can't help you compare. Also, not much is out there that can use your CPU's full potential so maybe that is causing some sort of confusion for your hardware making it run harder than necessary.

[chrisharbin]

I hear people talk about maudio being flaky all the time.

I have a profire 610 and it's been nothing but a dream on two different computers.

Computer, a flapping frustration. You'd think after all the GD'ed time and effort and the quality of computers this shit would be an afterthought.

[wasteband]

Originally Posted by flint757

Okay your motherboard supports your processor which I assume is AMD Phenom II X6 1100T maybe make sure it is the correct bios and drivers etc.

MSI Global ? Mainboard - 970A-G46

Since your not having other issues and it doesn't sound like your CPU or anything else is giving you much issue after all 50% is certainly not full capacity that I doubt it is anything other than maybe an update issue. Either that or your software is glitching maybe if you are running windows 7 get the CPU widget to see what that says it is running at or something more official.

In your comparison were you running the exact same setup?

Actually, it's an AMD FX 6100. i dont know how good or bad of a different that is in comparison to you're previously mentioned processor

[flint757]

Originally Posted by wasteband

Actually, it's an AMD FX 6100. i dont know how good or bad of a different that is in comparison to you're previously mentioned processor

I only wanted to make sure it was correct for your board which it is. Honestly, I think the CPU usage displayed by Reaper or whatever isn't showing your full CPU usage, did you look in task manager when it said 50%? Either way make sure everything is up to date sometimes that can make a huge difference.

[wasteband]

Originally Posted by flint757

I only wanted to make sure it was correct for your board which it is. Honestly, I think the CPU usage displayed by Reaper or whatever isn't showing your full CPU usage, did you look in task manager when it said 50%? Either way make sure everything is up to date sometimes that can make a huge difference.

I think its easier if i post a screenshot with description




With this it shows my memory usage in the task manager is around 20%. My main problem is that when i want to record guitars or bass or vocals (because i program drums) i cant use the Input monitoring to hear how my guitar tone sounds while the song is playing....which is really annoying when it keeps cutting out constantly and raising the buffer drastically would make me unable to record. I see alot of people on this forum have virtual rig, and seem to run alot of their DAWs as well, so that why this seems kind of weird to me.

[flint757]

Originally Posted by wasteband

I think its easier if i post a screenshot with description

With this it shows my memory usage in the task manager is around 20%. My main problem is that when i want to record guitars or bass or vocals (because i program drums) i cant use the Input monitoring to hear how my guitar tone sounds while the song is playing....which is really annoying when it keeps cutting out constantly and raising the buffer drastically would make me unable to record. I see alot of people on this forum have virtual rig, and seem to run alot of their DAWs as well, so that why this seems kind of weird to me.

Okay I see what you're saying. Well for that I have to divert to someone else because I don't use a virtual rig. So just listening while it is playing causes it to overload basically?

[chrisharbin]

That isn't right. Especially considering the cpu usage.

a couple of questions that might have nothing to do with it (but have to ask)

-you are showing a redflag on your action center. just though I mention it
-have you tried going 44.1?

[KingAenarion]

Originally Posted by chrisharbin

well, I was just saying that even with my i7, reaper is really the only truly efficient host I have. Sonar would be second but I hate using sonar (get the raid out)

S1 and FL are terrible cpu wise on my system

What I see is quite a bit of time between your first post and where this left off so sorry about that. Still, it seemed as though you were trying ableton to start?

FL I understand, but are you talking about Presonus S1?

I'm currently running a project with 173 tracks, all with plugins, many of them bridged waves plugins, multiple amp sims, an instance of Superior drummer for triggering roto toms, a few instances of Play (the east west host), lots of Steven Slate Trigger instances, IR Reverbs galore...

45% CPU useage...

[wasteband]

Originally Posted by flint757

Okay I see what you're saying. Well for that I have to divert to someone else because I don't use a virtual rig. So just listening while it is playing causes it to overload basically?

listening to the track yes, while trying to record one guitar track with the amp sims and record input monitoring on so i can hear how the guitar sounds while im recording.

[wasteband]

Originally Posted by chrisharbin

That isn't right. Especially considering the cpu usage.

a couple of questions that might have nothing to do with it (but have to ask)

-you are showing a redflag on your action center. just though I mention it
-have you tried going 44.1?

Haha, the red flag is my security is off, because i just needed to run a keygen on something

and i could consider going to 44.1. But with the performance meter only at that much percent, and with my computer, AND with the fact my interface can go to 92k, i dont see how that would be a significant difference. Plus i got this good computer built so i could handle this kinda stuff. ARG I NEED HELP I CANT EVEN RECORD/MIX A SONG PAST A MINUTE AND A HALF

[flint757]

Originally Posted by wasteband

listening to the track yes, while trying to record one guitar track with the amp sims and record input monitoring on so i can hear how the guitar sounds while im recording.

Can you add other things without overloading or no matter how little or much you have running it clips when you playback?

Originally Posted by wasteband

Haha, the red flag is my security is off, because i just needed to run a keygen on something

and i could consider going to 44.1. But with the performance meter only at that much percent, and with my computer, AND with the fact my interface can go to 92k, i dont see how that would be a significant difference. Plus i got this good computer built so i could handle this kinda stuff. ARG I NEED HELP I CANT EVEN RECORD/MIX A SONG PAST A MINUTE AND A HALF

What happens after a minute and a half?

[wasteband]

Originally Posted by flint757

Can you add other things without overloading or no matter how little or much you have running it clips when you playback?



What happens after a minute and a half?

ill answer both those things in one part.... I can add things but it seems when i have as many tracks in the mentioned picture before, i cant play my guitar and hear it through amp sims while the computer has superior drummer and other channels with vsts on them. And when I start to put a song together at around 30 seconds is when i cant hear my guitar smoothly with amp sims without it glitching, and putting a higher buffer rate with be completely stupid seeing how i couldnt record properly on time. at around a minute and a half is when the ENTIRE track is just starting to completely glitch/cut out at frequent times.

[wasteband]

im starting to think it might not be the Fast Track Pro product i have in particular. Maybe something inside it is ....ed because there is no way i see people posting on here with full songs and they mention they use amp sims, and it sounds like their mix is proper with what i assume would be alot of channels and plugins to work the mix.

[flint757]

Originally Posted by wasteband

im starting to think it might not be the Fast Track Pro product i have in particular. Maybe something inside it is ....ed because there is no way i see people posting on here with full songs and they mention they use amp sims, and it sounds like their mix is proper with what i assume would be alot of channels and plugins to work the mix.

Yeah it isn't normal for sure because I'm running a first gen quad core and 3 GB of 800MHZ DDR2 and my computer glitches (albeit as said before I don't run a setup like your to directly compare), but your setup is better than mine so I see no reason why it would do that. The only other thing I can think of is sound card or audio interface issues. Or an IRQ problem in general or involving one of those devices. Try plugging your audio device in a different port on your computer if possible. Is everything up to date drivers, bios etc.? I don't remember if you said you had or not and too lazy to look back.

[wasteband]

Honestly can a computer with decent enough parts as mine be held back with the capabilities a Fast Track Pro has. Im completely stumped does anyone have a fast track pro as well or can message me and can run me bit by bit on how this can work. im seriously just trying to make music and cant even with this new 850($ computer like come on shit is ridiculous as my last laptop had a dual core 3 GB RAM (almost 5x less) and was performing just a bit worse. WHAT. THE. ....

[wasteband]

Originally Posted by flint757

Yeah it isn't normal for sure because I'm running a first gen quad core and 3 GB of 800MHZ DDR2 and my computer glitches (albeit as said before I don't run a setup like your to directly compare), but your setup is better than mine so I see no reason why it would do that. The only other thing I can think of is sound card or audio interface issues. Or an IRQ problem in general or involving one of those devices. Try plugging your audio device in a different port on your computer if possible. Is everything up to date drivers, bios etc.? I don't remember if you said you had or not and too lazy to look back.

Yeah drivers areall up to date, i have 10 usb ports and ive plugged the interface in almost all of them, but i dont know how to access the BIOS menu....if its something with holding keys when your computer starts i cant do it because i have a wireless keyboard which only activates once at the login screen

[flint757]

Originally Posted by wasteband

Yeah drivers areall up to date, i have 10 usb ports and ive plugged the interface in almost all of them, but i dont know how to access the BIOS menu....if its something with holding keys when your computer starts i cant do it because i have a wireless keyboard which only activates once at the login screen

Yeah I have a standard keyboard for such occasions, but no you go to the manufacture website for motherboard download the correct bios and they usually have a tool to do the update. For bios update it has nothing to do with your start up options. It seems unlikely that that would be the problem, but you should still make sure it is up to date. I had major improvements in computer function after bios updates in the past.

Question is the driver for your FTP 32 or 64 bit and not Vista. If you are running SP1 then you should choose that one, but if your not then either get the SP1 update or download the other driver. I assume everything works fine when your running less so it is hard to pin point your problem and leads me back to BIOS or CPU problem or maybe RAM. (since it performs fine when not overly stressed)

Are you experiencing any other problems like BSOD or random reboots?

[wasteband]

Originally Posted by flint757

Yeah I have a standard keyboard for such occasions, but no you go to the manufacture website for motherboard download the correct bios and they usually have a tool to do the update. For bios update it has nothing to do with your start up options. It seems unlikely that that would be the problem, but you should still make sure it is up to date. I had major improvements in computer function after bios updates in the past.

Question is the driver for your FTP 32 or 64 bit and not Vista. If you are running SP1 then you should choose that one, but if your not then either get the SP1 update or download the other driver. I assume everything works fine when your running less so it is hard to pin point your problem and leads me back to BIOS or CPU problem or maybe RAM. (since it performs fine when not overly stressed)

Are you experiencing any other problems like BSOD or random reboots?

no random reboots, And the fast track pro is both you can download both 32 and 64 bit drivers, which i downloaded for windows 7 because that is my OS. What do you mean by SP1?

[flint757]

Originally Posted by wasteband

no random reboots, And the fast track pro is both you can download both 32 and 64 bit drivers, which i downloaded for windows 7 because that is my OS. What do you mean by SP1?

It means service pack 1 it is how Microsoft does major updates/fixes. Right now windows 7 is running latest on windows 7 SP1. You can find out in Computer properties it will say it under windows edition. If you have it, service pack 1 will be listed there. If so try downloading those drivers.

[wasteband]

Originally Posted by flint757

It means service pack 1 it is how Microsoft does major updates/fixes. Right now windows 7 is running latest on windows 7 SP1. You can find out in Computer properties it will say it under windows edition. If you have it, service pack 1 will be listed there. If so try downloading those drivers.

Yup. Service pack one is there listed....

[flint757]

Originally Posted by wasteband

Yup. Service pack one is there listed....

ok so try the different driver set and for future reference always go for those if available. Then see if you're getting any different results.

[wasteband]

Originally Posted by flint757

ok so try the different driver set and for future reference always go for those if available. Then see if you're getting any different results.

Sorry to be a noob, but how would i try a different driver set?

[flint757]

Originally Posted by wasteband

Sorry to be a noob, but how would i try a different driver set?

For bios

MSI Global ? Mainboard - 970A-G46

and for FTP

M-AUDIO - Drivers and Software Search

You may need to uninstall the old driver first, but usually the new one will replace the old. It is just an executable so just click through the menus.

[Floppystrings]

Here is what I am using:

Windows XP 64-bit (only 2GB DDR2800, with an core 2 duo overclocked to 3Ghz)
EMU 0404 USB at 48kHz 24-bit (with EMU ASIO plug-in)
Reaper 64-bit

I just played four stereo tracks, all with about 6 plug-ins each, and my CPU usage was very low, like 3% for Reaper.

You need to check your settings, I suspect you may have several things "ready" for recording with possible a bridged plug-in or something that is working ten times harder than it was designed (at least in real time).

ASIO does click and pop, but only in real time monitoring, when you render files they are flawless.

Hopefully you get this sorted out, settings are a bitch!

[flint757]

Originally Posted by Floppystrings

Here is what I am using:

Windows XP 64-bit (only 2GB DDR2800, with an core 2 duo overclocked to 3Ghz)
EMU 0404 USB at 48kHz 24-bit (with EMU ASIO plug-in)
Reaper 64-bit

I just played four stereo tracks, all with about 6 plug-ins each, and my CPU usage was very low, like 3% for Reaper.

You need to check your settings, I suspect you may have several things "ready" for recording with possible a bridged plug-in or something that is working ten times harder than it was designed (at least in real time).

ASIO does click and pop, but only in real time monitoring, when you render files they are flawless.

Hopefully you get this sorted out, settings are a bitch!

No kidding

Part of the reason why it is hard to diagnose his problem because so much could be wrong and I can only confidently suggest simple fixes over the internet.

One thing to do is take your setup a step at a time leaving the essentials like playback running and see just when you start seeing problems as you keep adding things. If your stuff isn't set to the correct settings though it could definitely be causing the problem.