How low is too low? (SD 2.0 , Ibanez RGA8 , PODHD300)

TheBotquax · 01-15-2012, 09:59 PM

WHAT THE FU- by Acramoc on SoundCloud - Create, record and share your sounds for free

Not really a full song, but I wanted to see how low I could go before mixing and mastering became unbearable. I think that c# is about the limit before everything turned into muddy, floppy shit.

Also, I think I perfected the snare on this song do you guys think it sounds good?

(thanks to MF_kitten for the inspiration!)

thedrummerkid · 01-15-2012, 10:01 PM

GO LOWER.

BlindingLight7 · 01-15-2012, 11:05 PM

Go lower!

This sounds really cool actually, lol

Larcher · 01-16-2012, 09:48 AM

digging this !

DeKay · 01-16-2012, 10:08 AM

Awesome! I love deep tuned stuff! It sounds a little bit weak overrall, maybe make it dirtier?

I went deeper with my PRS Baritone and I could easily go to A without problems, this one is in B:

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Phalanx · 01-16-2012, 10:33 AM

I actually think the lead playing really detracts from the feel of the song. If it were just the low, rhythm guitar I think i'd enjoy it a lot more.

m3l-mrq3z · 01-16-2012, 10:38 AM

Too ridiculous to suck.

Genome · 01-16-2012, 12:24 PM

Haha, silly... I can't really hear the snare though.

TheBotquax · 01-16-2012, 05:34 PM

Yeah it sounds a lot grittier on the not-soundcloud version on my computer, I wish they wouldn't compress the songs so much when you upload them

m4rK · 01-16-2012, 07:33 PM

Its low, but not low enough. What Decay posted is about the limit, I think..

Blasphemer · 01-16-2012, 07:33 PM

Dat snare

Cynic · 01-16-2012, 07:38 PM

Sounds like you should ease up on the compression.

Spaceman_Spiff · 01-16-2012, 08:23 PM

I think the lead is what makes it awesome...and it would be too boring without it...not bad overall.

Purelojik · 01-17-2012, 02:20 AM

what settings u using with the pod?

in-pursuit · 01-17-2012, 04:48 AM

I'm so happy to hear this

what scale length is your guitar, and what gauges are you using? it sounds quite tight, I think you should go lower

GATA4 · 01-17-2012, 01:05 PM

Awesome.

revclay · 01-17-2012, 02:16 PM

Haha, the guitars do sound really cool. However, I am having a hard time picking out the individual elements of the kit. It sounds buried, so I can't really comment on the snare. But the tuning doesn't sound problematic at all. In fact, it sounds pretty cool to me.

TheBotquax · 01-18-2012, 12:52 AM

Thanks to everyone for the input, I fixed up the mix and it sounds a .... ton better now when I A/B the original! Of course, you'll have to wait until I release my EP before you hear the finished version. (Dun worry it's only one song and a couple days of mastering away from being released)

EDIT: And Purelojik, if you look up the chimp spanner POD Hd500 tutorial on youtube, I based it around that tone and eq'd it a tiny bit in REAPER.

EDIT2: And yes, I will be going lower in future. MUCH lower (think spasm by meshuggah lol)

Electric Wizard · 01-18-2012, 11:08 AM

Nice playing and nice tone! This has me thinking. I've tried emulating the chimp spanner patch on my 300 and never liked playing with it. Yet for some reason, every time I hear a mix done with a Pod where I feel compelled to ask how they got their tone, it turns out to be some form of that patch. May need to sit through that video again.

Purelojik · 01-18-2012, 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Electric Wizard

Nice playing and nice tone! This has me thinking. I've tried emulating the chimp spanner patch on my 300 and never liked playing with it. Yet for some reason, every time I hear a mix done with a Pod where I feel compelled to ask how they got their tone, it turns out to be some form of that patch. May need to sit through that video again.

^THIS

MrMattShaffer · 01-18-2012, 02:00 PM

This is great!!! And to think I used to sling my guitar with 9's and tune standard!!! When drop D was LOWWWW haha!!!

MF_Kitten · 01-19-2012, 04:58 PM

Hahaha, awesome! The sub drop after the sample made me laugh because of how ridiculous this clip is

The funny thing is, i'm thinking of tuning down the last semitone to reach C# too, but for the sake of having the next string be an Ab... So same outcome, different motivation.

I love this insane low tuning stuff more and more!

TheBotquax · 01-19-2012, 06:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Electric Wizard

Nice playing and nice tone! This has me thinking. I've tried emulating the chimp spanner patch on my 300 and never liked playing with it. Yet for some reason, every time I hear a mix done with a Pod where I feel compelled to ask how they got their tone, it turns out to be some form of that patch. May need to sit through that video again.

Remember to use the ENGL fireball model with the sm57 off axis mics. Keep the drive around 40-50%, bass around 15%, mids at 60%, and treble somwhere around 50-60%. The only other effect you need is the tube screamer. Make sure to keep it relativley flat in terms of bass/mid/treble and at a very low drive. This should get you a good tone to mess around with until you find what you like.

alex103188 · 01-19-2012, 08:06 PM

SO lowz. I liked a couple of the other tunes you have on your soundcloud as well!

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01-15-2012, 09:59 PM	#1
TheBotquax SS.org Regular Join Date: May 2011 Location: Long Island Posts: 368 Thanked: 11 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	How low is too low? (SD 2.0 , Ibanez RGA8 , PODHD300) WHAT THE FU- by Acramoc on SoundCloud - Create, record and share your sounds for free Not really a full song, but I wanted to see how low I could go before mixing and mastering became unbearable. I think that c# is about the limit before everything turned into muddy, floppy shit. Also, I think I perfected the snare on this song do you guys think it sounds good? (thanks to MF_kitten for the inspiration!) MrMattShaffer likes this.

01-15-2012, 10:01 PM	#2
thedrummerkid Sweater Bandit Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Connersville, IN Posts: 404 Thanked: 14 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	GO LOWER. "You didn't create the universe did you hmm? Thordendal did. With a single DJENT." - nostealbucket

01-16-2012, 09:48 AM	#4
Larcher fpoon Join Date: May 2010 Location: Ottawa, Canada Posts: 2,605 Thanked: 41 Feedback Score: 1 reviews	digging this ! Illusionists Progressive / Melodic http://soundcloud.com/larcher-1

01-16-2012, 10:08 AM	#5
DeKay PRS MM Baritone user Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Mannheim Posts: 287 Thanked: 22 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Awesome! I love deep tuned stuff! It sounds a little bit weak overrall, maybe make it dirtier? I went deeper with my PRS Baritone and I could easily go to A without problems, this one is in B: Caynug - Meaty Outro (EQ) by Caynug on SoundCloud - Create, record and share your sounds for free m4rK likes this. My new Album is out called "Self-Titled": http://caynug.bandcamp.com/ My Facebook page: http://www.facebook.com/caynug My soundcloud: http://soundcloud.com/caynug

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01-15-2012, 11:05 PM	#3
BlindingLight7 Needs moar Gear..... Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Indiana-USA Posts: 2,275 Thanked: 52 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Go lower! This sounds really cool actually, lol

01-16-2012, 10:33 AM	#6
Phalanx ss.org Regular Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Coventry :( Posts: 87 Thanked: 0 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I actually think the lead playing really detracts from the feel of the song. If it were just the low, rhythm guitar I think i'd enjoy it a lot more.

01-16-2012, 10:38 AM	#7
m3l-mrq3z Not Herman Li Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Tübingen, Germany Posts: 1,342 Thanked: 18 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Too ridiculous to suck. Check out my one-man metal project Listen to more of my music here

01-16-2012, 12:24 PM	#8
Genome Wrex. Shepard. Join Date: May 2010 Location: Reading, England Posts: 1,001 Thanked: 15 Feedback Score: 3 reviews	Haha, silly... I can't really hear the snare though. http://www.myspace.com/zodiarkmetal http://www.soundclick.com/zodiark

01-16-2012, 05:34 PM	#9
TheBotquax SS.org Regular Join Date: May 2011 Location: Long Island Posts: 368 Thanked: 11 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Yeah it sounds a lot grittier on the not-soundcloud version on my computer, I wish they wouldn't compress the songs so much when you upload them

01-16-2012, 07:33 PM	#10
m4rK SS.org Regular Join Date: May 2010 Location: Peoples Republic of Nine Mile Posts: 271 Thanked: 3 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Its low, but not low enough. What Decay posted is about the limit, I think..

01-16-2012, 07:33 PM	#11
Blasphemer That Guy from Maine Join Date: May 2011 Location: Kittyland Love Center Posts: 1,138 Thanked: 26 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Dat snare My band, Capture the Sun. Prog that's not djent! Get my solo albums! They're pretty damn free!

01-16-2012, 07:38 PM	#12
Cynic Luguta Tapping Pro~ Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 1,911 Thanked: 76 Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Sounds like you should ease up on the compression.

01-16-2012, 08:23 PM	#13
Spaceman_Spiff SS Contributor Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Akron, Ohio Posts: 851 Thanked: 16 Feedback Score: 3 reviews	I think the lead is what makes it awesome...and it would be too boring without it...not bad overall. "You took the best thing about natural finished guitar bodies and applied it to the neck. I'd compare it to dipping solid chocolate into chocolate mousse, having a lucid dream within a dream, receiving fellatio while having sex, producing energy while burning no fuel. You sir are a genius.'' - in-pursuit "Parker PM 10 trade?" - JackWilliamBellow

01-17-2012, 02:20 AM	#14
Purelojik SS.org Regular Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Newport Beach california Posts: 1,145 Thanked: 20 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	what settings u using with the pod? TheBotquax likes this.

01-17-2012, 04:48 AM	#15
in-pursuit SS.org Regular Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Rosewood, QLD, Australia Posts: 932 Thanked: 20 Feedback Score: 5 reviews	I'm so happy to hear this what scale length is your guitar, and what gauges are you using? it sounds quite tight, I think you should go lower Jazz influenced Prog//Experimental http://soundcloud.com/frogherder Incoming - Oakland Axe Factory 9 string, multiscale, headless, single cut, piezo! Did someone along the line not love you enough, because you were always failure? If you make plans around custom guitar build ETA, you're gonna have a bad time.

01-17-2012, 01:05 PM	#16
GATA4 Banned Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Texas Posts: 1,385 Thanked: 31 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Awesome.

01-17-2012, 02:16 PM	#17
revclay SS.org Regular Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Ithaca, NY Posts: 879 Thanked: 18 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Haha, the guitars do sound really cool. However, I am having a hard time picking out the individual elements of the kit. It sounds buried, so I can't really comment on the snare. But the tuning doesn't sound problematic at all. In fact, it sounds pretty cool to me. VIRGA Full-length album, Fragments of Us All, out now! http://virga.bandcamp.com/ www.facebook.com/virgaband www.youtube.com/virgaband

01-18-2012, 12:52 AM	#18
TheBotquax SS.org Regular Join Date: May 2011 Location: Long Island Posts: 368 Thanked: 11 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Thanks to everyone for the input, I fixed up the mix and it sounds a .... ton better now when I A/B the original! Of course, you'll have to wait until I release my EP before you hear the finished version. (Dun worry it's only one song and a couple days of mastering away from being released) EDIT: And Purelojik, if you look up the chimp spanner POD Hd500 tutorial on youtube, I based it around that tone and eq'd it a tiny bit in REAPER. EDIT2: And yes, I will be going lower in future. MUCH lower (think spasm by meshuggah lol) Purelojik likes this.

01-18-2012, 11:08 AM	#19
Electric Wizard Thrillhouse Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: WI Posts: 575 Thanked: 4 Feedback Score: 2 reviews	Nice playing and nice tone! This has me thinking. I've tried emulating the chimp spanner patch on my 300 and never liked playing with it. Yet for some reason, every time I hear a mix done with a Pod where I feel compelled to ask how they got their tone, it turns out to be some form of that patch. May need to sit through that video again.

01-18-2012, 02:00 PM	#21
MrMattShaffer ss.org Regular Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Iowa Posts: 9 Thanked: 32 / 1 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	This is great!!! And to think I used to sling my guitar with 9's and tune standard!!! When drop D was LOWWWW haha!!! Metal_Webb likes this.

01-19-2012, 04:58 PM	#22
MF_Kitten Fully Ramblomatic Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Stavanger, Norway Posts: 8,984 Thanked: 298 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Hahaha, awesome! The sub drop after the sample made me laugh because of how ridiculous this clip is The funny thing is, i'm thinking of tuning down the last semitone to reach C# too, but for the sake of having the next string be an Ab... So same outcome, different motivation. I love this insane low tuning stuff more and more! Cad P Crayon likes this. -------------------------------------- What will metal be doing in ten years? What ever Meshuggah will be doing in two. -Anthony

01-19-2012, 08:06 PM	#24
alex103188 SS.org Regular Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Oregon Posts: 244 Thanked: 5 Feedback Score: 6 reviews	SO lowz. I liked a couple of the other tunes you have on your soundcloud as well!

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