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Artist: Idoler
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Sup Dude's!!? Rough/REAL mic'd drums mix for Dissipate!!! HEAVY "NEW" Djent!!?
Sup Dude's!!! So last wed i recorded Dissipate's new 3rd installment to the 3 song we're doing (I'm also the vocalist for Dissipate now
)! Anyway, i decided to not go for something like the "After the Burial's" New sound for the mix (no offense to who did the After the Burial mix...just wasnt for this band i guess)....it ended up too thin and it "cheapened" the glory that I feel these guys can be!!! On top of that, the first two songs we did i had them do it to a click....well...the third song, which is the one im showing you guys was w/ no click, natural closed mic drums and the POD rockin Mike's Agile 8 raw!!!! Never thought i'd dial in a POD to sound like this!!! hahaha!!! >>>anywho, thought you guys would enjoy to know the PODS can still own RAW!!!! Not to mention, i feel this mix sounds just raw as hell, yet punchy and produced....reminds me of Pig Destroyer's Prowler in the yard meets Blood Has Been Shed's SPIRALS....but more "NOW" sounding! IDK....you decide!!!anyway, I hope you guys agree to the "amazingness" i feel this band could be ground breaking w/out a click, and instead a drummer that "anticipates" the music to be more "INTENSE!!!" Less "perfect" and more feeling!!!! which i think production has forgotten about frankly...including myself!!! Anyway, vocals coming soon! oh, and BASS too!!! hahaha : Cheers Dude's ENJOY!!! ![]() -------------------UPDATED MIX W/BASS!!!----------------------- Dissipate's "MOTION" rough mix...no vox http://soundclick.com/share.cfm?id=11202660 PS: try and listen to this more than once!!!
my soundclick page http://www.soundclick.com/Idoler my myspace page www.myspace.com/idoler1 my old band page www.myspace.com/houseofatreus1 "Don't be a fool!...He'll kill us all." |
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That click just has the right amount of click and heft to it, it sounds like it's kicking me in the chest AND throat. Not too big on the snare, maybe you should put some of your glorious Superior snare into it
![]() I agree muchly on playing without a click working really well for some things. Look at The Arusha Accord, they are so ridiculously smooth and tight, and no click! I'll give more comments on the mix once I listen on my monitors tomorrow! The section at 2:30ish is just amazing. Sounds fierce. Edit: Wait, this is RAW POD!?!?! IMAGINE THIS WITH YOUR PROCESSING.
M E M O I R S Music from myself and Kurkkuviipale! http://soundcloud.com/m-e-m-o-i-r-s I also do graphic design, both freelance and for label Myriad Records. |
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Whoa.. that tone...huge..
![]() But I think you can augment the kick and snare with samples. You know, till this day, I still haven't figure out how you manage to get that kinda tone from a pod. Seriously man, I mean I've been playing with the pod for a long time. And I can't even come close to your tones, even your earlier clips from way back. You're the pod whisperer.
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Sounds great so far! Looking forward to the finished tracks!
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huge tone!
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M0$H W4RR10R
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That's a POD? Dear lord that's sweet!
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Artist: Idoler
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Soo happy you guys dig this tone, a lot of it comes from what Mike and i dialed in tonewise for his "style" of playing...which the way he plays makes like 70% of the tone!!! hahaha...the band and i are actually really happy w/ the "raw" yet heavy sound we're getting as opposed to the last mix we came up with, so i think we're gonna keep the drums pretty much as they sound naturally, and once bass is recorded and vocals are laid down, we'll go in and do a lil spit shine on the mix and a lil master eq to glue everything together. i just reeeally think this band needs to just be as dirty and "real" as possible for recording! hahaha!
my soundclick page http://www.soundclick.com/Idoler my myspace page www.myspace.com/idoler1 my old band page www.myspace.com/houseofatreus1 "Don't be a fool!...He'll kill us all." |
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This is very cool.
Not groundbeaking sorry... but very cool indeed. A VERY impressive Drummer too. What I'm most impressed by is his steadiness of tempo and his consistency of volume when needed. My band - Ex Curia - Prog metal in an Opeth meets Machine Head kind of way Difference Engine Productions - My recording and mixing business. Difference Engine Productions |
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Artist: Idoler
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i agree man, it's just that natural feeling you can't duplicate or make perfect...the reason i used the word "groundbreaking" is because now that i know the song so well, and the thought that went into it, plus knowing the bass lines, as well as the fact that im also about to try and lay down some of THE MOST BRUTAL vocals evar on it...is maybe why i have a bias!!! hahaha, thanks tho dude, i'll pass the message to Jeff (Drummer)!!!
my soundclick page http://www.soundclick.com/Idoler my myspace page www.myspace.com/idoler1 my old band page www.myspace.com/houseofatreus1 "Don't be a fool!...He'll kill us all." |
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I think it's pretty damn groundbreaking, never heard any djent as close to as intense as this. Looking forward to hearing the final mix!
M E M O I R S Music from myself and Kurkkuviipale! http://soundcloud.com/m-e-m-o-i-r-s I also do graphic design, both freelance and for label Myriad Records. |
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this is why i get annoyed when people say "ohh line 6 cant do shit".
they clearly can if you put in the time and effort. Just like any other piece of equipment. |
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Artist: Idoler
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Thanks dudes!!! hahaha, i JUST finished doing the bass w/ JT and wanted to share. All i've done to the mix really is dial in a clear yet "beefy" bass tone in and then did a little Master EQ to gel the whole thing together for now, which i feel gave the guitars a clearer and more processed sound without losing that sound we liked from the Line 6 raw. Anyway, lemme know what you guys think if u get the time!
![]() -------------------UPDATED MIX W/BASS!!!----------------------- Dissipate's "MOTION" rough mix...no vox SoundClick artist: Idoler - Soundclick Page for Artist: Idoler_enjoy my personal music and other productions! my soundclick page http://www.soundclick.com/Idoler my myspace page www.myspace.com/idoler1 my old band page www.myspace.com/houseofatreus1 "Don't be a fool!...He'll kill us all." |
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M0$H W4RR10R
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The bass is ....ing heavy.
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Good work bud!
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Artist: Idoler
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thanks dudes...yea...wanted the bass heavy when it needed to carry weight, but still pushing enough mids to cut through during the notey parts, basically something warm and hugging, and i think we achieved that!!! working on some heavier mastering to make this thing "really" POP in the end!
![]() btw FourFour, Prydogga...how the heck u guys been!? my soundclick page http://www.soundclick.com/Idoler my myspace page www.myspace.com/idoler1 my old band page www.myspace.com/houseofatreus1 "Don't be a fool!...He'll kill us all." |
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Kalmari
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Sound ....ing epic bro! I really dig this raw sound your going for with this band!
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Gunna listen to the bass mix now. M E M O I R S Music from myself and Kurkkuviipale! http://soundcloud.com/m-e-m-o-i-r-s I also do graphic design, both freelance and for label Myriad Records. |
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Yea man... been keeping busy, studying, music and all that. And I completed my service in the army.
Anyways, new mix sounds great. I still think you could blend some drum samples in though. |
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Artist: Idoler
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Thanks soo much guys for checkin and "re-checkin" in on this...i feel this current mix w/ bass etc. really "hugs" the listener as opposed to assaulting them, and with a band that has "this much" assault coming at you, they need a rich, heavy and "depthy" mix/sound to "wrap" the listener in, ya know!? ...just imho of course :P
![]() Turd- dude...you should post more of your mixes!!! ![]() Prydogga-will check it out!!! Anywho, FourFour...congrats on finishing w/ the military...anyway, i luv ya man...but this kick owns...hahaha!!! ...plus he's got a kevlar topped marching snare!!! hahaha...can't say NO to that!!! ...plus, i never said these weren't at least "half" sampled by now!!! hahaha!
my soundclick page http://www.soundclick.com/Idoler my myspace page www.myspace.com/idoler1 my old band page www.myspace.com/houseofatreus1 "Don't be a fool!...He'll kill us all." |
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doesn't djent, sorry
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....ing sick.....
Petrus Thomas Ratajczyk (January 4, 1962 – April 14, 2010) -------------------------------------------------------------------- me - is this "pink floyd-core"? don't answer, i'm totally not serious.... Opeth21 (n/k/a dbrozz) - have you even listened to music since '03? this is totally mellowstrat-chordprogcore. but dont take it too hard man
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After the first listen, I really dig the mix a lot. At first blush, I really wasn't too keen on the snare sound. I'll have to listen to it again to see if it grows on me. I do feel the mix is aggressive, but isn't raw in the way that Prowler in the Yard is, imo. It is still really polished sounding while having a lot of aggression, which is a compliment.
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Artist: Idoler
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unbrblncvncfbng- thanks bud!
![]() revclay- yea, i agree it's not the "rawness" of Prowler, and i thank you for the compliment , ...i definitely thought of Prowler tho when it came mainly to the sound/aggressive behavior of the drums w/the music...especially when it was JUST gits and drums...idk! haha
my soundclick page http://www.soundclick.com/Idoler my myspace page www.myspace.com/idoler1 my old band page www.myspace.com/houseofatreus1 "Don't be a fool!...He'll kill us all." |
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.... you, Josh, for making such awesome music.
![]() BTW, I emailed yo ass a while back, you don't like me anymore?
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.... how I've missed you and your mixes
![]() Excellent job man, looking forward to the vox. Tone reminds me of Danza III and the drums are awesome too. |
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