First mix post on sevenstring (real shit mesa/5150/realdrums/ampeg

[CatharsisStudios]

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/33807583/par...10905_2312.mp3

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/33807583/par...10905_2312.mp3

bands parables from dallas texas!

i'll post the mix info if anyones interested

[KingAenarion]

Can't really comment until we know what you're working with (you could be great using certain things or rubbish using others )


It's not bad... the mix is quite boomy, and there are some off things in the drum panning to my ears.

The vocals sit strangely in the mix (not bad, just odd)


And the whole mix sounds like you're hammering the master bus hard.

[CatharsisStudios]

ah, well yeah its being slammed pretty hard. i am sorry its not superior 2.0 and axe fx. and programmed bass. my apologies.

[CatharsisStudios]

your jazz mixes are pretty mint btw. sounds great

[keshav]

Dude I thought that sounded absolutely amazing. You could ease off the mastering a bit, but otherwise sounds stellar. As far as guitar and drum sounds go, flawless victory \m/

[KingAenarion]

Originally Posted by CatharsisStudios

ah, well yeah its being slammed pretty hard. i am sorry its not superior 2.0 and axe fx. and programmed bass. my apologies.

No this is what I meant.

If you were using Superior 2 and Axe FX it would be pretty meh... but you're obviously not...

so what ARE you using for Drums and guitar/bass sounds? What DAW are you using?

[CatharsisStudios]

guitar was
ec-1000 > emg 81 > maxon 808 > mesa 2 chan dual rec running at 50watts orange channel, bold with el34s > mesa 4x12 OS > 57 > audient mico > mackie 1200F

and the same cab and mic set up for 5150 on the leads

drums were a custom company that the drummer made, nt5s on overheads sm7b on hats, md421s and 603s on toms i5 and 57 on snare with some samples for blending
kick was slate kick 10 along with the drummers kick
daw is reaper

i want to get some info on your jazz mixes

[KingAenarion]

Well in that case, this is a really impressive mix.

The drums are wicked, well miced and mixed for real drums. I would perhaps next time use a condenser on the snare as well, just to get more of the snap.

Also, maybe don't pan the Toms so hard, there is a bit of distortion of the stereo field between the overheads and the Tom panning... but the micing itself is pretty good.


The Jazz mixes aren't mine, they're the other Engineer in the business Stuart Hope's (he's an actual Engineer, I'm more of the producer)

He did them all in pro studios, and some of them were miced quite differently. I'll try and remember as best as possible.

Summertime and All the things you are - A single RODE K2 on the drums, a single RODE K2 on the piano, I can't remember but I think the Bass was both DIed out from the amp as well as miced with an MD441 and I can't remember what the vocal mic, but knowing Stu it was either a Neumann U87 or an AKG C414 for Fran depending on what sounded best in the room. Done on an old Sony Analogue console to Pro Tools HD

Rhiannon - was the same for drums and piano, a Neumann KM84 for the Bass + a DI of the pickup (which I don't think he used in the final mix) and the AKG C414 for the vocals in this one. Same Sony console but onto Tape for this one I think (then bounced to Pro Tools)

I've got you Under my Skin and Moondance - Same for kick and Piano. DI Bass + AKG D112 on the Bass, U87 on the vocals and a KM184 for the sax. Also think there was a room mic for this one, but I can't remember what it was.

Superstition -
Kick AKG D112
Snare - Audix i5 and a KM84
OHeads - 2 Rode K2s
Bass - DI + MD421
Guitar - AKG C414
Electric Piano - DI
Sax - KM184
Vocals - U87

This was done into a Neve Console (but I have no idea WHAT it was) at BJB studios to Tape then bounced to Pro Tools (It was quite a while ago)

And that's all the Jazz ones that are up there

[Cynic]

My boy BJ is vocalist of this band. You're doing a great job with them.

[msalazar]

migrating from the Sneap forum I see, mix sounds awesome as always bro!

[Radicz0r]

good shit, dude!

[Menigguh]

Originally Posted by CatharsisStudios

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/33807583/par...10905_2312.mp3

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/33807583/par...10905_2312.mp3

bands parables from dallas texas!

i'll post the mix info if anyones interested

AMAZING MIX!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

personally I wish the vocals sat a little closer in the mix but thats my taste

SO SICK

SO SICK

SO SICK

SO SICK

:shre d:

[bigchocolateman]

I like it.
I like it alot.
That kick drum... mmmmm

[s_the_fallen]

Its refreshing to hear real amps! Maybe add a little bit more low end? Overall its awesome!

[HollowmanPL]

Originally Posted by KingAenarion

Can't really comment until we know what you're working with (you could be great using certain things or rubbish using others )

geeeez.....
If he had used a microwave for the guitars - would it be a better mix than a dual recto?

[KingAenarion]

Originally Posted by HollowmanPL

geeeez.....
If he had used a microwave for the guitars - would it be a better mix than a dual recto?

Well if he was using things like Neumann TLM 103s or similar for overheads and a Beyer MC930 on the snare alongside like a 57... in a treated room in a studio... I would have told him he's destroyed his overheads and his snare is not cracking like like I would expect it too because the attack on his snare compressor is too short... in that case it would be an average mix... not bad, but not "OMG OMG "

With what he was using however he has done REALLY well. Did we know anything about his setup beforehand? Nope.

[CatharsisStudios]

i personally like the snare alot. and my room is treated slighty picking up 24 more 703 pannels tomorrow

[IconW]

Really good stuff! Simple and heavy. I like it. Mix is awesome! And yep, that snare is quite delicious.

[KingAenarion]

Originally Posted by CatharsisStudios

i personally like the snare alot. and my room is treated slighty picking up 24 more 703 pannels tomorrow

It's good, but I reckon it would be just that ever so slight amount better if you tried using a good condenser. You'll get more body and crack and all the goodness of the snare

Also, did you get someone to design your treatment, or are you just doing it all yourself?

[Menigguh]

Originally Posted by KingAenarion

It's good, but I reckon it would be just that ever so slight amount better if you tried using a good condenser. You'll get more body and crack and all the goodness of the snare

Also, did you get someone to design your treatment, or are you just doing it all yourself?

I've been wondering, What would be a good condenser to use on the snare. Sorry to butt in

[KingAenarion]

Originally Posted by Menigguh

I've been wondering, What would be a good condenser to use on the snare. Sorry to butt in

In the cheaper range, a RODE NT3 can be an ok condenser, or an AT2021.

The best I've ever heard were Neumann KM83/84 and their newer counterparts the KM183/184.

I also really like a Beyer MC930 which is pretty darn close to the Neumanns.

You could also try an AKG C414-XLS.

[Razzy]

Everything on this sounds killer to me. I personally love the snare sound.

[AlexWadeWC]

This mix is ....ing awesome.

+1 on the master thing and the vocals could be a HAIR louder, and I do mean just a hair.

Other than that kudos for making such a sick mix out of real instruments and amps. You see that rarely these days, I know I probably couldn't do it hahaha.

[AlexWadeWC]

And this just further proves I need an Audient Mico, anytime I hear a guitar tone that involves it in some way or another (whether it be the mic preamp like this scenario or what was used to capture the guitar DIs for reamping like Nolly) the guitar tone is always perfect.

[CynicEidolon]

Now, Harvey... I thought you told me these were "replaced" drums... Basically, samples that YOU made. I'm confused.