DI recording guitars while micing your cabinet

skattabrain · 10-12-2006, 10:45 AM

question ...

the band would like to be able to record our jams sessions w/o all the cross noise you'd get in a 1 room band practice scenerio. i bought a stereo chorus pedal so i could split my guitar signal into 2 paths ... 1 to the amp and 1 to the di box. trouble is ... this hookup cause some bad interference type noise out of my peavey jsx amp. still not sure why.

anyways ... what's the preferred way to do this? do i need a mixer? would that help me send a prefect signal to my amp and my DI box at the same time?

our bass player wants to do this too.

this way ... we can record our DI sounds and have no drum/other instrument noises on our respective tracks AND be able to jam in a live situation. then after, i can use guitar rig 2 on the bass and guitar tracks to capture the moment with amplification tone.

serious tracking will be done later with mic's ... this is just for capturing ideas.

any ideas?

drummer may be going into synth drums for recording ... but that's another story.

Jeff · 10-12-2006, 10:51 AM

Behringer's got a DI box that hangs off of your head while having a passthrough for your cabinet, so that should work for DI'ing yours and your bassist's signals, with or without cabinet emulation (which can be easily added later).

You'd need a multi input audio capture device, like the Presonus Firepod that has 8 in's.

Then you'd have 1 for you, 1 for the bassist, 1 for the singer, and 5 for the separate outputs of the synth drums.

The problem is that the vocalist's mic would probably still catch everyone's live tone, so you'd still have bleed.

Unless you fashion a muzzle with a built in mic

Hell, singers need a muzzle half the time anyway

metalfiend666 · 10-12-2006, 11:10 AM

Use the Behringer DI box as Jeff suggests, or any other DI box with a link out option.

Matt Crooks · 10-12-2006, 01:39 PM

Make sure that the DI can take a powered input, if you plan on putting it between your head and cab, otherwise you'll blow shit up.

skattabrain · 10-12-2006, 07:20 PM

i don't want to record the amp'd signal ... i want to record the pickups so i can 100% dive into guitar rig on the DI

DSS3 · 10-12-2006, 07:54 PM

Any decent quality DI will have a "Thru" out - check out the Radial DI's, and if you want to get into reamping, the Littlelabs Redeye.

skattabrain · 10-12-2006, 08:33 PM

so you plug the guitar into the DI ... then 1 out goes to amp with a virutally "untouched signal" and the other into my computer? do i have that right?

skattabrain · 10-12-2006, 08:43 PM

liek this ... see attachment

DSS3 · 10-12-2006, 09:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skattabrain

so you plug the guitar into the DI ... then 1 out goes to amp with a virutally "untouched signal" and the other into my computer? do i have that right?

Exactly.

guitar into DI, DI thru to rig, DI out to interface.

skattabrain · 10-13-2006, 09:07 AM

thanks DS ... those radials are a bit pricey for me right now ... are there any bank for the buck models that you know of?

10-12-2006, 10:45 AM	#1
skattabrain slow and low Join Date: May 2006 Location: Methuen MA Posts: 881 Real Name: Greg Main Seven: RG1077XL Rig: JSX -> Avatar Cab Thanked: 2	DI recording guitars while micing your cabinet question ... the band would like to be able to record our jams sessions w/o all the cross noise you'd get in a 1 room band practice scenerio. i bought a stereo chorus pedal so i could split my guitar signal into 2 paths ... 1 to the amp and 1 to the di box. trouble is ... this hookup cause some bad interference type noise out of my peavey jsx amp. still not sure why. anyways ... what's the preferred way to do this? do i need a mixer? would that help me send a prefect signal to my amp and my DI box at the same time? our bass player wants to do this too. this way ... we can record our DI sounds and have no drum/other instrument noises on our respective tracks AND be able to jam in a live situation. then after, i can use guitar rig 2 on the bass and guitar tracks to capture the moment with amplification tone. serious tracking will be done later with mic's ... this is just for capturing ideas. any ideas? drummer may be going into synth drums for recording ... but that's another story.

10-12-2006, 11:10 AM	#3
metalfiend666 Mod Britannia Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Basildon, Essex, England Posts: 9,615 Real Name: James Main Seven: Death Warrior/KXK Sii-7 Rig: Dual Rec->Trace 3x12 Thanked: 43	Use the Behringer DI box as Jeff suggests, or any other DI box with a link out option. Ibanez 540S7 for sale

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10-12-2006, 10:51 AM	#2
Jeff Banned from Reality Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Illinois Posts: 4,261 Real Name: Uh.....Jeff Main Seven: none Rig: Mesa DC-5 Thanked: 23	Behringer's got a DI box that hangs off of your head while having a passthrough for your cabinet, so that should work for DI'ing yours and your bassist's signals, with or without cabinet emulation (which can be easily added later). You'd need a multi input audio capture device, like the Presonus Firepod that has 8 in's. Then you'd have 1 for you, 1 for the bassist, 1 for the singer, and 5 for the separate outputs of the synth drums. The problem is that the vocalist's mic would probably still catch everyone's live tone, so you'd still have bleed. Unless you fashion a muzzle with a built in mic Hell, singers need a muzzle half the time anyway

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skattabrain slow and low Join Date: May 2006 Location: Methuen MA Posts: 881 Real Name: Greg Main Seven: RG1077XL Rig: JSX -> Avatar Cab Thanked: 2	i don't want to record the amp'd signal ... i want to record the pickups so i can 100% dive into guitar rig on the DI

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DSS3 Banned Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: - Posts: 1,353 Real Name: - Main Seven: - Rig: - Thanked: 3	Any decent quality DI will have a "Thru" out - check out the Radial DI's, and if you want to get into reamping, the Littlelabs Redeye.

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skattabrain slow and low Join Date: May 2006 Location: Methuen MA Posts: 881 Real Name: Greg Main Seven: RG1077XL Rig: JSX -> Avatar Cab Thanked: 2	so you plug the guitar into the DI ... then 1 out goes to amp with a virutally "untouched signal" and the other into my computer? do i have that right?

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skattabrain slow and low Join Date: May 2006 Location: Methuen MA Posts: 881 Real Name: Greg Main Seven: RG1077XL Rig: JSX -> Avatar Cab Thanked: 2	thanks DS ... those radials are a bit pricey for me right now ... are there any bank for the buck models that you know of?


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