Veil of Maya Inspired w/ xylophone (Logic 9/POD UX2/The Metal Foundry)

abswisher · 12-08-2010, 12:46 PM

I tracked this last night, and mixed it this morning. Just looking for some criticism on my rushed mix, and how to improve it.

Edit: See post 8 for final mix.

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Chickenhawk · 12-08-2010, 12:56 PM

I'm a fan of a little more grit in the guitars, but the tone you've got works really well for what you're playing.

I shouldn't even comment on the mix, since I'm listening with beyond horrible speakers, but maybe bring the kick up a tad? Maybe someone will chime in and tell me to shut up

And the xylophone is absolutely PERFECT!

beefshoes · 12-08-2010, 01:11 PM

Awesome stuff mate.
I think the kick drum is fine. It could some more low end though.

Metalhead77479 · 12-08-2010, 01:18 PM

Sounds really good man.

Personally I would Eq and shape the tone of the guitars a little more to help it sit in the mix a little better.

Another suggestion, it's really tight, but if you want to make it a little tighter, send the outputs of the kicks (and whatever else from the drums you want to a bus) And set up a Gate on the guitars with the bus that your using for the kicks & other drums with a relativley high threshold so that way the guitars get that extra cut/tightness to them. Overall good mix. Maybe bring the xylophone up a bit in the mix.

Edit: I meant to tell you that you have to sidechain in the gate. Sorry about that

Metalhead77479 · 12-08-2010, 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beefshoes

Awesome stuff mate.
I think the kick drum is fine. It could some more low end though.

Maybe just a tad to give it a more natural kick sound, but it's pretty good already & punchy as hell

abswisher · 12-08-2010, 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Metalhead77479

Sounds really good man.

Personally I would Eq and shape the tone of the guitars a little more to help it sit in the mix a little better.

Another suggestion, it's really tight, but if you want to make it a little tighter, send the outputs of the kicks (and whatever else from the drums you want to a bus) And set up a Gate on the guitars with the bus that your using for the kicks & other drums with a relativley high threshold so that way the guitars get that extra cut/tightness to them. Overall good mix. Maybe bring the xylophone up a bit in the mix.

Thanks man! Yeah, I only high cut and low cut the guitars so they could use a tiny bit of tweaking. Also, can you go into detail about that bus? So, I send the kick/whatever else to a bus. How do I get the guitar gate to interact with that?

Edit: Figured it out! Haha

Double edit: Re-EQed and brought up kick, slightly EQd guitars and added gate, brought xylophone up

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btfsam · 12-08-2010, 03:01 PM

badass dude, definitely tight sounding. Definitely sounds like you were going from the production on the new VOM cd rather than the old one

cool track though

abswisher · 12-08-2010, 06:06 PM

Alright, final tweak! Haha. Completely forgot I downloaded the Sperimental impulse pack this week. So, I threw those on there.

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ST3MOCON · 12-08-2010, 06:33 PM

cool dude the guitar tone is very veil of maya. i think you nailed his tone if not better than his tone

xiphoscesar · 12-08-2010, 10:57 PM

defnitely nailed veil of maya style/tone,

Jake Boyce · 12-09-2010, 12:09 AM

I agree that your tone's even better than Marc's. It sounds very similar, but your's is warmer. Also, your palm mute's are clearer.

I can tell it's very VoM inspired, but you have your own style to it and I can't imagine them doing any clean riffs. So thumbs up on that one!

I absolutely love the xylophone by the way.

Matt-Hatchett · 12-09-2010, 01:01 AM

I love this, man. Great mix and the style is right up my alley. Very Solid, keep up the good work!

AySay · 12-09-2010, 05:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Matt-Hatchett

I love this, man. Great mix and the style is right up my alley. Very Solid, keep up the good work!

Exactly this!
So good. Please do more.

TraitorsEyes · 12-09-2010, 07:12 AM

i dig it. very sick!

satanchugs · 12-12-2010, 03:54 PM

holy shit that was sweet

abswisher · 12-13-2010, 11:39 PM

Changed the snare sample, and a few minor tweaks.

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mithologian · 12-14-2010, 07:35 PM

any tips in general for this type of tone?

TreWatson · 12-14-2010, 08:36 PM

i came.

my only critique is that the snare has more high end on it that it needs, might want to sort that out.

the playing is VERY clean, the track's GREAT, i love it.

keep up the great work.

ridealot100 · 12-15-2010, 12:03 PM

Incredible. something I would love to have a full cd of.

GATA4 · 12-15-2010, 02:48 PM

it sounds to me like the guitar panned right is way louder than the guitar panned left...but no one else has commented on/noticed that.. oh well, if it were me, I would level out the volumes. the song is BADASS though man...seriously, very very good.

Jake Boyce · 12-15-2010, 04:31 PM

I'll say it again. I'm in love with your tone!

I can't wait to hear more from you.

abswisher · 12-15-2010, 09:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mithologian

any tips in general for this type of tone?

In the simplest terms, Gain: 5 Bass: 10 Mid: 9 Treble: 7 Presence: 10 Cut everything below 50hz and a dip around 4.2 Khz. That's just pertaining to Pod Farm, though, to cut the fizz.

Asterix · 01-10-2011, 05:42 PM

Beautiful.
You should post a download link of your pod settings.

Xanithon · 01-11-2011, 09:10 AM

What Asterix said, (watching this thread very intensely now)

sarkophagus · 01-11-2011, 11:36 AM

beautiful!!! i love your tone man and the song is also great! most people just make great mixes and sacrifice song writing because of it! great job yet again man.

did you use and impulses or master this mix?

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12-08-2010, 12:46 PM	#1
abswisher ss.org Regular Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Connellsville, PA Posts: 417 Thanked: 3 Feedback Score: 10 reviews	Veil of Maya Inspired w/ xylophone (Logic 9/POD UX2/The Metal Foundry) I tracked this last night, and mixed it this morning. Just looking for some criticism on my rushed mix, and how to improve it. Edit: See post 8 for final mix. <object type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="never" allownetworking="internal" data="http://www.soundclick.com/player/V2/mp3player.swf" height="60" width="473"> </object> <object type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="never" allownetworking="internal" data="http://www.soundclick.com/player/V2/mp3player200.swf" height="60" width="200"> </object>

12-08-2010, 12:56 PM	#2
Chickenhawk Freemanologist Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Misery Posts: 3,371 Thanked: 72 Feedback Score: 6 reviews	Re: Veil of Maya Inspired w/ xylophone (Logic 9/POD UX2/The Metal Foundry) I'm a fan of a little more grit in the guitars, but the tone you've got works really well for what you're playing. I shouldn't even comment on the mix, since I'm listening with beyond horrible speakers, but maybe bring the kick up a tad? Maybe someone will chime in and tell me to shut up And the xylophone is absolutely PERFECT! Liberty has never come from the government. Liberty has always come from the subjects of it. The history of liberty is a history of resistance. - Woodrow Wilson

12-08-2010, 01:11 PM	#3
beefshoes Rack Em Willie Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Princeton, WV Posts: 194 Thanked: 17 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Re: Veil of Maya Inspired w/ xylophone (Logic 9/POD UX2/The Metal Foundry) Awesome stuff mate. I think the kick drum is fine. It could some more low end though. Demos from my upcoming work called "Spectrum": http://soundcloud.com/jerradwilliams/sets/new-demos/%22 My Tumblr: http://jerradwilliams.tumblr.com/

12-08-2010, 01:18 PM	#4
Metalhead77479 SS.org Regular Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Sugar Land, Tx Posts: 204 Thanked: 4 Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Re: Veil of Maya Inspired w/ xylophone (Logic 9/POD UX2/The Metal Foundry) Sounds really good man. Personally I would Eq and shape the tone of the guitars a little more to help it sit in the mix a little better. Another suggestion, it's really tight, but if you want to make it a little tighter, send the outputs of the kicks (and whatever else from the drums you want to a bus) And set up a Gate on the guitars with the bus that your using for the kicks & other drums with a relativley high threshold so that way the guitars get that extra cut/tightness to them. Overall good mix. Maybe bring the xylophone up a bit in the mix. Edit: I meant to tell you that you have to sidechain in the gate. Sorry about that

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12-08-2010, 03:01 PM	#7
btfsam Banned Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Saint Louis, MO Posts: 394 Thanked: 15 Feedback Score: 3 reviews	Re: Veil of Maya Inspired w/ xylophone (Logic 9/POD UX2/The Metal Foundry) badass dude, definitely tight sounding. Definitely sounds like you were going from the production on the new VOM cd rather than the old one cool track though

12-08-2010, 06:06 PM	#8
abswisher ss.org Regular Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Connellsville, PA Posts: 417 Thanked: 3 Feedback Score: 10 reviews	Alright, final tweak! Haha. Completely forgot I downloaded the Sperimental impulse pack this week. So, I threw those on there. <div style="width:473px; border:solid #999999 1px; background-image:url('http://www.soundclick.com/images/elogos/SC_ExtBG.png')"> <a href='http://www.soundclick.com/alexswisher'> <div style="background-color:width:460px; height:45px; cursor:pointer; background-image:url('http://www.soundclick.com/images/elogos/SC_460.png');"></div></a> <div id="lower"><object type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowScriptAccess="never" allowNetworking="internal" height="60" width="473" data="http://www.soundclick.com/player/V2/mp3player.swf"> <param name="allowScriptAccess" value="never" /> <param name="allowNetworking" value="internal" /> <param name="movie" value="http://www.soundclick.com/player/V2/mp3player.swf" /> <param name="loop" value="false" /> <param name="menu" value="false" /> <param name="quality" value="high" /> <param name="wmode" value="transparent" /> <param name="flashvars" value="playType=single&songid=9976402&scid=9976402 &q=hi&ext=1&autoplay=0" /> <param name="scale" value="noscale" /> <param name="salign" value="b" /> <param name="bgcolor" value="#000000" /> </object></div></div>

12-08-2010, 06:33 PM	#9
ST3MOCON Precursor Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: bakersfield, CA Posts: 340 Thanked: 9 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	cool dude the guitar tone is very veil of maya. i think you nailed his tone if not better than his tone https://www.facebook.com/pages/Precu...41823122535504

12-08-2010, 10:57 PM	#10
xiphoscesar ss.org Regular Join Date: May 2009 Location: texas Posts: 583 Thanked: 20 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	defnitely nailed veil of maya style/tone,

12-09-2010, 12:09 AM	#11
Jake Boyce ss.org Regular Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Buffalo, NY Posts: 14 Thanked: 5 / 1 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I agree that your tone's even better than Marc's. It sounds very similar, but your's is warmer. Also, your palm mute's are clearer. I can tell it's very VoM inspired, but you have your own style to it and I can't imagine them doing any clean riffs. So thumbs up on that one! I absolutely love the xylophone by the way.

12-09-2010, 01:01 AM	#12
Matt-Hatchett ss.org Regular Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Satsuma,Al Posts: 186 Thanked: 4 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I love this, man. Great mix and the style is right up my alley. Very Solid, keep up the good work!

12-09-2010, 07:12 AM	#14
TraitorsEyes SS.org Regular Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Hawaii Posts: 271 Thanked: 3 Feedback Score: 11 reviews	i dig it. very sick!

12-12-2010, 03:54 PM	#15
satanchugs Banned Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: livonia MI Posts: 42 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Feedback Score: 0 reviews	holy shit that was sweet

12-13-2010, 11:39 PM	#16
abswisher ss.org Regular Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Connellsville, PA Posts: 417 Thanked: 3 Feedback Score: 10 reviews	Changed the snare sample, and a few minor tweaks. <div style="width:473px; border:solid #999999 1px; background-image:url('http://www.soundclick.com/images/elogos/SC_ExtBG.png')"> <a href='http://www.soundclick.com/alexswisher'> <div style="background-color:width:460px; height:45px; cursor:pointer; background-image:url('http://www.soundclick.com/images/elogos/SC_460.png');"></div></a> <div id="lower"><object type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowScriptAccess="never" allowNetworking="internal" height="60" width="473" data="http://www.soundclick.com/player/V2/mp3player.swf"> <param name="allowScriptAccess" value="never" /> <param name="allowNetworking" value="internal" /> <param name="movie" value="http://www.soundclick.com/player/V2/mp3player.swf" /> <param name="loop" value="false" /> <param name="menu" value="false" /> <param name="quality" value="high" /> <param name="wmode" value="transparent" /> <param name="flashvars" value="playType=single&songid=9998158&scid=9998158 &q=hi&ext=1&autoplay=0" /> <param name="scale" value="noscale" /> <param name="salign" value="b" /> <param name="bgcolor" value="#000000" /> </object></div></div>

12-14-2010, 07:35 PM	#17
mithologian SS.org Regular Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Plantation, FL Posts: 347 Thanked: 9 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	any tips in general for this type of tone?

12-14-2010, 08:36 PM	#18
TreWatson Pro Thread Killer Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Baltimore MD Posts: 2,409 Thanked: 122 $TreWatson is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $TreWatson is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $TreWatson is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $TreWatson is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $TreWatson is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $TreWatson is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $TreWatson is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ Feedback Score: 0 reviews	i came. my only critique is that the snare has more high end on it that it needs, might want to sort that out. the playing is VERY clean, the track's GREAT, i love it. keep up the great work. Etherial Guitars Artist http://www.etherial.com.au https://www.facebook.com/EtherialGuitars Carthage's Salt the Earth out now! http://carthageband.bandcamp.com LIKE US ON FACEBOOK!!! http://www.facebook.com/carthageband

12-15-2010, 12:03 PM	#19
ridealot100 SS.org Regular Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: illinois Posts: 329 Thanked: 27 Feedback Score: 5 reviews	Incredible. something I would love to have a full cd of.

12-15-2010, 02:48 PM	#20
GATA4 Banned Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Texas Posts: 1,382 Thanked: 31 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	it sounds to me like the guitar panned right is way louder than the guitar panned left...but no one else has commented on/noticed that.. oh well, if it were me, I would level out the volumes. the song is BADASS though man...seriously, very very good.

12-15-2010, 04:31 PM	#21
Jake Boyce ss.org Regular Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Buffalo, NY Posts: 14 Thanked: 5 / 1 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I'll say it again. I'm in love with your tone! I can't wait to hear more from you.

01-10-2011, 05:42 PM	#23
Asterix ss.org Regular Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Green Bay, WI Posts: 72 Thanked: 0 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Beautiful. You should post a download link of your pod settings.

01-11-2011, 09:10 AM	#24
Xanithon Headbobbing Galore Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Wellington, New Zealand Posts: 587 Thanked: 14 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	What Asterix said, (watching this thread very intensely now)

01-11-2011, 11:36 AM	#25
sarkophagus ss.org Regular Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: sligo ireland Posts: 85 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Feedback Score: 0 reviews	beautiful!!! i love your tone man and the song is also great! most people just make great mixes and sacrifice song writing because of it! great job yet again man. did you use and impulses or master this mix?

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